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Post by Cyno on May 13, 2024 12:39:13 GMT -5
I think I paid like $75 for my Raw ticket in 2015 at the Prudential Center in Newark. Lower bowl seat. Wonder how much the same seat would go for today.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on May 13, 2024 12:41:58 GMT -5
The Price Gouge is my favorite Ted DiBiase maneuver.
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Post by bearned on May 13, 2024 12:57:50 GMT -5
The prices are insane. I am genuinely amazed people can/will pay that much money for these events.
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Post by Dave the Dave on May 13, 2024 12:59:11 GMT -5
The problem is that people are gonna buy them. Luckily I’ve gone to a ton of wrestling events/ concerts so I’m fine just not going. But prices will stay high if they sell.
My local small venues that used to be $25 in say 2019, are $45 now. Music festivals went from $300 to $700. It’s insane but people still buy it so no incentive to not gouge them.
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Post by BRV on May 13, 2024 13:20:54 GMT -5
I think I paid like $75 for my Raw ticket in 2015 at the Prudential Center in Newark. Lower bowl seat. Wonder how much the same seat would go for today. I have tickets to two WWE shows this summer in New England: SmackDown in Worcester and Raw in Providence. The SmackDown tickets are lower bowl, a few rows from the floor, and I got them at $65 per (face value) before fees. The Raw tickets are upper deck, $50 per (face value) before fees. I've found those to be about the average price for tickets since the pandemic. That said, I did notice that prices were ridiculously high for the SmackDown at Mohegan Sun Arena in Uncasville, Conn. earlier this year. Face value for upper deck seats were something like $175 each, and I pity the poor fools who paid those prices to see a card highlighted by Pretty Deadly vs. R-KO and Bianca Belair vs. Dakota Kai. If you can get in on the pre-sales that happen at every venue WWE runs, you can still find very reasonably priced tickets before the scalpers buy them up and resell them for two or three times what would be considered face value. The problem is that people are gonna buy them. Luckily I’ve gone to a ton of wrestling events/ concerts so I’m fine just not going. But prices will stay high if they sell. My local small venues that used to be $25 in say 2019, are $45 now. Music festivals went from $300 to $700. It’s insane but people still buy it so no incentive to not gouge them. And that's the nuts and bolts of this entire discussion. If people are willing to buy, they can charge whatever price they want for tickets. Eventually there will be a tipping point, but WWE is hot right now and fans are willing to pay exorbitant prices to see the shows in person, whether in the States or abroad. It's a lot different now than it was five years ago when they were desperately papering shows and tarping off entire halves of arenas because they couldn't get anyone in the building.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on May 13, 2024 13:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by yokohamacpfc on May 13, 2024 15:07:57 GMT -5
The people who will pay these prices and ensure a sell out aren’t toffs with money to burn btw. They are poors just like the rest of us but FOMO syndrome will have them put the £300+ tickets on the credit card and as for paying it back: “That’s future Homer’s problem. Boy, I’d sure hate to be that guy.”
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Post by Bo Rida on May 13, 2024 15:11:33 GMT -5
The let them eat cake comment has me thinking of the recent backlash against celebs after the met gala.
Board rules, can't go full in depth, there's a bunch of interlinked issues but the core is people are struggling, out of touch celebs flaunt their wealth, don't do enough to help people with their money/platform and instead exploit those with a lot less.
Things have been bubbling for a while. the imagine singalong in covid, the recation to Dwayne and Oprah's appeal, now this. It might fizzle out, it might continue to grow. But if some Swifties are turning on their idol you know things are changing.
Now most wrestlers aren't super rich in the same way, the likes of Sami and Punk do try to use their platforms for good.
But The Rock is high up on the block list. They have Logan Paul, the Saudi deal, a warehouse rather than cupboard full of skeletons, the Netflix deal. The ingredients are there for a more expensive backlash than the one in France. They'll get away with this but it just needs the right spark for people to turn against these kind of prices, the equivalent to someone saying 'let them eat cake", from an industry that has such disdain for fans they call them marks.
The Rock had people turn on him already, they got away with it once, they might not always be so lucky.
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Post by Cyno on May 13, 2024 15:38:22 GMT -5
As said, the Clash event is already 90% sold out, so it's probably not affecting too much in the short term. Just means that a more affluent crowd and superfans who have no real life outside of their wrestling fandom will increasingly become the usual crowd.
Unfortunately WWE isn't alone in gouging people for live events either. Far from it.
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Post by Hypnosis on May 13, 2024 16:02:44 GMT -5
As said, the Clash event is already 90% sold out, so it's probably not affecting too much in the short term. Just means that a more affluent crowd and superfans who have no real life outside of their wrestling fandom will increasingly become the usual crowd. Unfortunately WWE isn't alone in gouging people for live events either. Far from it. Like that green shirt guy who reminds me too much of James Ellsworth?
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Post by Bo Rida on May 13, 2024 16:20:45 GMT -5
As said, the Clash event is already 90% sold out, so it's probably not affecting too much in the short term. Just means that a more affluent crowd and superfans who have no real life outside of their wrestling fandom will increasingly become the usual crowd. Unfortunately WWE isn't alone in gouging people for live events either. Far from it. It's all so short-term. Many fans get into wrestling through their family and it's often the live events that hook them for life, especially the kids. Maybe even make them want to become wrestlers. Pricing families out is storing up issues. Fans in attendance already skew older than they once did and it'll look like a bowls crowd before too long if future generations don't come in. Not exactly the backdrop they want for their demo figures and corporate deals. They've already had to cut back on matches at PLEs to give the old folk more chances to get to the toilet. The "what?" chants will come back because nobody will be able to hear. Wwe are usually the gateway to other promotions too. There'll be no more diving through rows of seats in the indies if everyone takes 5 minutes to get up and out the way.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on May 13, 2024 16:32:32 GMT -5
One thing I would keep in mind however, is that the whole of the UK & Ireland would have been the target audience, not just Scotland itself, so there were always gonna be enough people who'd make the commitment, especially if they're making an occasion of it by travelling up.
This. It's in Scotland, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's for Scottish people. Doesn't make it any less wrong though. Yeah, isn’t the government paying these site fees to increase tourism and outside traffic?
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Post by papagiorgio on May 13, 2024 16:48:51 GMT -5
My town here in the states was less than half full last year and they said they set an all time gate record despite sellouts in the Hulkamania and Attitude Eras. Prices are just way higher these days all around. As long as enough people keep paying, they will keep doing it.
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Post by ayumidah on May 13, 2024 16:53:45 GMT -5
Floor tickets for house shows in Peoria are usually about $109? Before fees. That's not counting the VIP tickets that go for like $400 or more. And that's in one of WWE's smaller markets!
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on May 13, 2024 17:02:29 GMT -5
I get what people are saying about them selling 90% of the tickets which seems impressive but when you think about it, the WWE is as hot as it has been at any time in recent memory, this is an actual PLE rather than a glorified house show in a non NA country and this isn’t a massive stadium event but an arena one with 11,000 tickets on sale
The fact that any tickets are available at all is something
I can understand WWEs POV to an extent and for grown ups I can understand their disappointment but at same time, know they are mature enough to get over it (for most part ha) but it’s the kids who see the adverts and want to go but can’t understand why they can’t get tickets that I feel for
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Post by asuka007 on May 13, 2024 17:11:02 GMT -5
I have very little desire to go see sports or shoes in person these days. I am not so interested in the “experience” to pay such absurd prices.
I can just watch from home on my nice comfy couch with my nice TV and some pizza, wings, and a drink in my hand.
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Post by Cyno on May 13, 2024 17:15:45 GMT -5
As said, the Clash event is already 90% sold out, so it's probably not affecting too much in the short term. Just means that a more affluent crowd and superfans who have no real life outside of their wrestling fandom will increasingly become the usual crowd. Unfortunately WWE isn't alone in gouging people for live events either. Far from it. It's all so short-term. Many fans get into wrestling through their family and it's often the live events that hook them for life, especially the kids. Maybe even make them want to become wrestlers. Pricing families out is storing up issues. Fans in attendance already skew older than they once did and it'll look like a bowls crowd before too long if future generations don't come in. Not exactly the backdrop they want for their demo figures and corporate deals. They've already had to cut back on matches at PLEs to give the old folk more chances to get to the toilet. The "what?" chants will come back because nobody will be able to hear. Wwe are usually the gateway to other promotions too. There'll be no more diving through rows of seats in the indies if everyone takes 5 minutes to get up and out the way. In fairness, it sounds like the big Mania weekend indie shows did as good as ever that for both attendance and gate. And for some of the smaller indie promotions that's like THE big money maker for the year.
Not that that does BritWres any favors, but yeah.
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Post by eJm on May 13, 2024 17:42:03 GMT -5
While the subject is up, I might as well have a side tangent about something that is sort of political but it’s less beliefs and more the policy.
The week before the London Mayor election, the present mayor, Sadiq Khan (no relation to Nick or Tony) said he wanted to bring events like the Super Bowl and WrestleMania, saying both by name, to London and it felt like the most populist BS you could possibly use.
One, you’re not going to be guaranteed either. The NFL loves London and has been trying to get an NFL team there for years (Spurs’ new stadium’s been rumored for long enough to be pitching itself as a home for an NFL team) but there is a real long shot the Super Bowl will ever go out of North America without a damn good reason to do it. Especially when it’ll be airing hours later and most of the audience is staying up late on a Sunday. WrestleMania, I mean…it could happen but you’d have to make a lot of sides happy and I highly doubt London gets a WrestleMania before, say, Saudi Arabia because, frankly, that cash cow is way bigger.
Two, frankly, London doesn’t need either. Performances happen there all the time and even with other stuff that’s happened (let’s call it Eggsit for the benefit of those aware), it’s still a location to go to so boosting tourism and not to try and make this a “WWE vs. AEW” thing but another company has willingly paid for one of the few spots Wembley Stadium has every year to use it and yes, WrestleMania would sell it out but it feels weird to throw that under the bus to chase that instead of developing that as YOUR WrestleMania.
I also just hate the idea that a city that has, admittedly, has had budget problems with transport and the like over the last 5 years (for many reasons I won’t go into) using tax payer’s money for an event that, quite frankly, won’t have the significant tourism in comparison to the other stuff going on and it’s just a weird thing to even promise. But I also hate how taxpayer’s money is used for all these places, especially when WWE is right now trying to stop Brendan Thurston from getting information he’s entitled to find out about how much public money was used to pay for the Royal Rumble last year.
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Post by J is Justice on May 13, 2024 17:50:38 GMT -5
I have very little desire to go see sports or shoes in person these days.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on May 13, 2024 18:17:30 GMT -5
While the subject is up, I might as well have a side tangent about something that is sort of political but it’s less beliefs and more the policy. The week before the London Mayor election, the present mayor, Sadiq Khan (no relation to Nick or Tony) said he wanted to bring events like the Super Bowl and WrestleMania, saying both by name, to London and it felt like the most populist BS you could possibly use. One, you’re not going to be guaranteed either. The NFL loves London and has been trying to get an NFL team there for years (Spurs’ new stadium’s been rumored for long enough to be pitching itself as a home for an NFL team) but there is a real long shot the Super Bowl will ever go out of North America without a damn good reason to do it. Especially when it’ll be airing hours later and most of the audience is staying up late on a Sunday. WrestleMania, I mean…it could happen but you’d have to make a lot of sides happy and I highly doubt London gets a WrestleMania before, say, Saudi Arabia because, frankly, that cash cow is way bigger. Two, frankly, London doesn’t need either. Performances happen there all the time and even with other stuff that’s happened (let’s call it Eggsit for the benefit of those aware), it’s still a location to go to so boosting tourism and not to try and make this a “WWE vs. AEW” thing but another company has willingly paid for one of the few spots Wembley Stadium has every year to use it and yes, WrestleMania would sell it out but it feels weird to throw that under the bus to chase that instead of developing that as YOUR WrestleMania. I also just hate the idea that a city that has, admittedly, has had budget problems with transport and the like over the last 5 years (for many reasons I won’t go into) using tax payer’s money for an event that, quite frankly, won’t have the significant tourism in comparison to the other stuff going on and it’s just a weird thing to even promise. But I also hate how taxpayer’s money is used for all these places, especially when WWE is right now trying to stop Brendan Thurston from getting information he’s entitled to find out about how much public money was used to pay for the Royal Rumble last year. I think if they were going to have Wrestlemania in London in late March or early April, the venue would have to employ the opposite of the air conditioning employed in the Qatar World Cup, because it would be absolutely f***ing freezing. Or more likely, you end up with a £300 souvenir Wrestlemania parka that you have to buy to stop you freezing to death. The last point also links in with what people have said about Glasgow and poverty, because London is literally one of the most unequal cities in the world. Obviously it's a bit more complicated than that and the spending is from different budgets (not the time or place to go into that) but again, it just leaves a sour taste when someone is willing to spend a load of public money to make a wealthy private company even wealthier while even middle earners struggle to make ends meet, never mind the real pockets of deprivation in east London, largely so public servants can pat themselves on the back and say "London is for everyone" (it isn't). Hopefully haven't broken any rules there, but it needs to be said.
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