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Post by Milkman Norm on May 19, 2024 8:52:06 GMT -5
I don't know if I can call it bad, but The Road Warriors never reached the level of over they had after they left the NWA.
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Post by kingoftheindies on May 19, 2024 9:49:22 GMT -5
Frankie Kazarian impressing WWE during a mini push on Velocity and walking cause they wanted him to cut his hair only to show up in TNA a month or 2 later with a buzz cut.
Davey Richards refusing to go home in an NXT Tryout.
Still early in the process but Jonathan Gresham's reaction to being booked to lose the ROH title to Claudio
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 19, 2024 10:50:36 GMT -5
Davey Richards refusing to go home in an NXT Tryout. Especially since this kinda screwed Eddie Edwards over. He was the one that really wanted to do the tryout while Richards didn't... on top of that HHH wasn't interested and only gave them a match out of a favor to Regal. I don't know how succesful or not they'd have been in WWE... but Davey knew it was important to Eddie and basically purposely chose to blow it on purpose.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 19, 2024 10:52:25 GMT -5
Frankie Kazarian impressing WWE during a mini push on Velocity and walking cause they wanted him to cut his hair only to show up in TNA a month or 2 later with a buzz cut. Davey Richards refusing to go home in an NXT Tryout. Still early in the process but Jonathan Gresham's reaction to being booked to lose the ROH title to Claudio The cutting his hair thing was just a rumor I believe. I seem to remember him saying he cut his hair just to disprove that was the reason he quit. He quit because he saw WWE pigeonholing him as a cruiserweight and they had no interest in pushing or giving any real attention to the division. The fact that he debuted on and never left Velocity lends credence to that.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 19, 2024 11:12:18 GMT -5
Man, a lot of guys jumping from WCW to WWF in the 90s didn't get a lot out of it, or if they did do well they still fell short of where they likely could've or should've gotten, which hurt their staying power in Stamford: Sid, Vader, Mero, even Luger to some degree, curious how things would've shaped up with Pillman if his injuries hadn't been a major issue. Certainly some exceptions: I think the Steiners did fine coming over for a short run, since they were a legit tag team at a time when WWF was kind of lacking in them but hadn't yet seemingly given up all the way on the division, Road Warriors could've done better for the same reason if Hawk's demons hadn't gotten the better of him so often. It's funny, but historically it was the guys who got let go from WCW who ended up doing better up north (Austin and Foley, mainly) instead of the guys who willingly jumped ship, who you'd think Vince would've been more committed to given the money and perceptions involved. I agree in general, though Foley actually quit WCW rather than being fired.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on May 19, 2024 11:13:33 GMT -5
Bam Bam Bigelow to WCW in 1999. Definitely for the money, but looking at how he revived his career in ECW.
Coming back to the WWF in 1999 would've been literally money for him.
Bam Bam vs. The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, The Big Show, The Undertaker, Kane, Kurt Angle, Tazz, etc...
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Post by tafkaga on May 19, 2024 11:26:20 GMT -5
Tony Schiavone has said that he regrets cutting his WWF run short to return to WCW. Tony was phenomenal on the two PPV's he called in WWF. Makes me wonder how much more rewatchable Raw and those mid 90's PPVs would have been if Tony had taken over for Gorilla instead of Vince. Also makes me wonder if JR would have stayed in WCW had Tony not jumped back over.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 19, 2024 16:25:08 GMT -5
Tony Schiavone has said that he regrets cutting his WWF run short to return to WCW. Tony was phenomenal on the two PPV's he called in WWF. Makes me wonder how much more rewatchable Raw and those mid 90's PPVs would have been if Tony had taken over for Gorilla instead of Vince. Also makes me wonder if JR would have stayed in WCW had Tony not jumped back over. Just imagining the alternate universe "BAH GOD! It's the greatest night in the history of our sport!" >_>
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Post by chrom on May 19, 2024 16:27:43 GMT -5
Davey Richards refusing to go home in an NXT Tryout. Especially since this kinda screwed Eddie Edwards over. He was the one that really wanted to do the tryout while Richards didn't... on top of that HHH wasn't interested and only gave them a match out of a favor to Regal. I don't know how succesful or not they'd have been in WWE... but Davey knew it was important to Eddie and basically purposely chose to blow it on purpose. It wouldn't have surprised me if he was looking for any chance or opportunity during the match to squander it.
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Post by Hypnosis on May 19, 2024 16:28:30 GMT -5
Tony Schiavone has said that he regrets cutting his WWF run short to return to WCW. Tony was phenomenal on the two PPV's he called in WWF. Makes me wonder how much more rewatchable Raw and those mid 90's PPVs would have been if Tony had taken over for Gorilla instead of Vince. Also makes me wonder if JR would have stayed in WCW had Tony not jumped back over. Just imagining the alternate universe "BAH GOD! It's the greatest night in the history of our sport!" >_> JR at the end of BATB '96:"Damn your soul to hell, Hulk Hogan!"
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Post by jason1980s on May 19, 2024 16:30:28 GMT -5
Just imagining the alternate universe "BAH GOD! It's the greatest night in the history of our sport!" >_> What a huge "what if?" Tony stays in WCW and Jim stays in WWF. Does Jim have a bells palsy attack? His voice was so different pre BP. It was so high pitched. I don't think he goes on to become such a beloved figure if in WCW. Not necessarily his fault. But everything really came together with late 1990s WWF he was a part of. Tony was better suited for the insanity that was late 90s, early 00s WCW.
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Post by fg on May 19, 2024 16:36:30 GMT -5
Bam Bam Bigelow to WCW in 1999. Definitely for the money, but looking at how he revived his career in ECW. Coming back to the WWF in 1999 would've been literally money for him. Bam Bam vs. The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, The Big Show, The Undertaker, Kane, Kurt Angle, Tazz, etc... Can you imagine a BamBam vs Kane in an Inferno match. That would be fire. Hahaha!
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 19, 2024 16:45:10 GMT -5
The Rock'n'Roll Express staying with the NWA when Vince was actively courting them during the expansion era. He went and got the Midnight Rockers from the AWA insted and the rest is history.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 19, 2024 17:30:02 GMT -5
Bam Bam Bigelow to WCW in 1999. Definitely for the money, but looking at how he revived his career in ECW. Coming back to the WWF in 1999 would've been literally money for him. Bam Bam vs. The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, The Big Show, The Undertaker, Kane, Kurt Angle, Tazz, etc... Can you imagine a BamBam vs Kane in an Inferno match. That would be fire. Hahaha! They'd get so much heat.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 19, 2024 17:37:11 GMT -5
Freebirds, specifically Michael Hayes, choosing to show up to a show drunk off his ass. Andre, fired them. They retorted he didn’t have the authority to do that, Andre said “Either I’ll be here tomorrow or you will”.
At least that’s the way, Bret, I believe has told the tale.
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Post by chrom on May 19, 2024 17:54:58 GMT -5
Freebirds, specifically Michael Hayes, choosing to show up to a show drunk off his ass. Andre, fired them. They retorted he didn’t have the authority to do that, Andre said “Either I’ll be here tomorrow or you will”. At least that’s the way, Bret, I believe has told the tale. According to DSOTR, Terry falling asleep during a meeting with Vince ruined their chances
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Post by James Fabiano on May 19, 2024 18:19:03 GMT -5
I don't know if I can call it bad, but The Road Warriors never reached the level of over they had after they left the NWA. They were okay WWF style superheroes at first. But yeah, Rocco, then the break up, lackluster WCW return, and don't get me started on their Attitude Era run. How about 2 Cold Scorpio from ECW to WWF? ECW was probably the part of the Big Three that used him the best (WCW kinda held back on him), and then...WWF jobber in stupid bodysuit.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 19, 2024 18:20:26 GMT -5
Freebirds, specifically Michael Hayes, choosing to show up to a show drunk off his ass. Andre, fired them. They retorted he didn’t have the authority to do that, Andre said “Either I’ll be here tomorrow or you will”. At least that’s the way, Bret, I believe has told the tale. According to DSOTR, Terry falling asleep during a meeting with Vince ruined their chances Could be. Could be both. I think I’ve heard Hayes tell the story that they were told they had the night off, so he decided to get drunk instead, then they got there and learned they were working. Either way, seems they boozed their way out of a deal. Just like the Rockers original one day run.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on May 19, 2024 18:42:20 GMT -5
According to DSOTR, Terry falling asleep during a meeting with Vince ruined their chances Could be. Could be both. I think I’ve heard Hayes tell the story that they were told they had the night off, so he decided to get drunk instead, then they got there and learned they were working. Either way, seems they boozed their way out of a deal. Just like the Rockers original one day run. I’m honestly surprised the Freebirds lasted anywhere for very long, and really, aside from Dallas, they didn’t. There’s also the story of Michael being called down from his room to get Buddy from the lobby because he was almost blackout drunk and had done something to piss off Harley Race and Harley was about to do something about it. I think that was for Crockett.
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Post by chrom on May 19, 2024 18:43:51 GMT -5
How about Butch Reed no showing The Superstars taping where he was suppose to win The IC Title? Instead it went to Honky Tonk Man
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