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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Oct 1, 2012 17:09:11 GMT -5
I'm giving everyone a chance to post during the day phase; mod kills/replacements will not be happening until end of day phase.
I will prod if needed.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 1, 2012 17:09:13 GMT -5
Boy discussion sure dropped pretty quick. yeah that usually happens around the first day phase which is why I'm not a fan of the first day phase.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Oct 1, 2012 17:09:35 GMT -5
Boy discussion sure dropped pretty quick. I think thats mainly because its day one. Not much to talk about besides lynch/no lynch. Though it would be nice to hear others comment on that, like you tried to get Lodi to do. Also, the game kind of works in waves. There are moments of huge activity and back and forths, that suddenly die out. Rinse, repeat. So I'm hoping/thinking we'll get better activity and talking soon.
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Post by MasonK565 on Oct 1, 2012 17:14:55 GMT -5
I am interested to see what everyone does during this phase. Do they stay quiet and not contribute anything? Or will we try to make it interesting?
I have also been wondering about a night phase first during one of my next games.
Anyways, how is Bayside High doing for everyone?
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 1, 2012 17:25:48 GMT -5
I am interested to see what everyone does during this phase. Do they stay quiet and not contribute anything? Or will we try to make it interesting? I have also been wondering about a night phase first during one of my next games. Anyways, how is Bayside High doing for everyone? I honestly wouldn't care if their was a night phase before the first day phase in a future game but I feel there would be some complaints about doing that you know some people will be killed off without ever having a chance to play the game themselves, but it wouldn't bother me either way. Some of the early mafia games on this forum, before I was a regular member, started with the night phase then went into the first day phase. There are still a few users I think we need to hear from I don't think we heard much from Cageking he's usually pretty quite in these games.
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Post by lodirulz on Oct 1, 2012 17:42:01 GMT -5
Lodi, what are your thoughts on a first day lynch? I'm usually against it, because this is usually when we're blind as to who can be an enemy, and we swat at the air looking for a fish to fry. And then we find someone, but it's usually because of a minor slipup, and it costs us a townie due to mafia bandwagoning. If we lynch first day, I want to absolutely certain that I'm making the right move.
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Post by MasonK565 on Oct 1, 2012 17:54:35 GMT -5
Lodi, what are your thoughts on a first day lynch? I'm usually against it, because this is usually when we're blind as to who can be an enemy, and we swat at the air looking for a fish to fry. And then we find someone, but it's usually because of a minor slipup, and it costs us a townie due to mafia bandwagoning. If we lynch first day, I want to absolutely certain that I'm making the right move. Well from past experience, it is not always mafia bandwagoning that locks the lynch. The mafia would be smarter than that, having all of them vote for a day one lynch. Because when it is a townie that dies, the town becomes suspicious of all who voted for them.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Oct 1, 2012 18:51:07 GMT -5
I agree not all Mafia will vote for the first day lynch but some will. We can analyze who voted for the lynched person and use that info not only on day two but everyday thereafter to try and find scum.
I'd rather play the odds because a small chance at lynching scum is better than no chance and I believe that nothing is really learned during a no lynch day 1. Just my opinion
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Post by MasonK565 on Oct 1, 2012 19:05:57 GMT -5
I agree with Produceman. We sit and wait for day 2 with no lynch. In Day 2, all we have is the write up. Still not a lot of info. People will still be in the dark. Things won't really hit stride and get a proper lynching till Day 3 possibly.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Oct 1, 2012 19:34:56 GMT -5
I can see where everybody's coming from, but the question remains: who exactly do we lynch? There's nobody jumping out right now in my mind as to a perfect candidate.
As other people have said if we're gonna lynch we should make sure we have a good reason to do so. For example I will not go along with a lynch for an inactive character simply because of that; I've learned my lesson from those from previous games.
If you don't mind my asking, Produceman, who would you go after first? Is there someone sticking out in your mind for one reason or another?
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Oct 1, 2012 20:37:17 GMT -5
If i absolutely had to lynch someone, it'd be Cage King since he's dropped off the radar. Do i WANT to lynch him now? Absolutely not. I want to hear his thoughts so far on the day along with Double H and Queen Mab. I want us all to come to a consensus on who would make the best candidate, even if the majority feels that would be me. If I get lynched and it helps the town win then I also win.
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Post by MasonK565 on Oct 1, 2012 20:54:30 GMT -5
On another note, I don't like standards and views that "those that say they want to live are mafia. Townies would be fine with dying."
That is a very false claim. If I was a townie, I would still want to live, just because I love playing the game. Also, if I was a townie with a power role, I would want to live so I could use my power. If I was mafia, I would want to live because living is essential with small numbers.
I am just giving my views on gameplay and try to start conversation with others so I can get a feel on everyone's gameplay and theory.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 1, 2012 20:54:30 GMT -5
Since RAW is at a commercial,and after it is a Sheamus match,i will use this tiem to post my toughs.
Cageking always disappears from time to time tough,he said at the FAN Idol that he is having a bad time?Anyway,too soon to lynch him.But if he doesn't awser or help again soon,i say it is worth a shot.Just not right now
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Oct 1, 2012 21:01:58 GMT -5
I want insinuating that its wrong to want to live. I want to live and help town catch scum. I'm just saying that I myself would duo whatever is necessary to help the town
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Post by MasonK565 on Oct 1, 2012 21:03:48 GMT -5
I want insinuating that its wrong to want to live. I want to live and help town catch scum. I'm just saying that I myself would duo whatever is necessary to help the town Oh, I know, Produceman. I was just remembering claims from previous claims and just expressing my thoughts here. I am pretty much expressing my Mafia game theory and getting to express their thoughts.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Oct 1, 2012 21:54:07 GMT -5
Yeah, lynching Cageking would be doing exactly what I want to avoid right now, and that's lynching an inactive. Unless we have a damn good reason to justify it, it's just way too risky. After all there are always more townies than scum. You're playing against the odds when going after an unknown and that means more often than not you'll end up taking out your friends.
Inactives will be replaced if they remain that way. There's no need to target them because they'll be dealt with one way or the other.
Double H, if you don't mind my asking what your thoughts right now? So far you've been pretty quiet when it comes to discussion. I'd like to hear from your perspective.
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Post by MasonK565 on Oct 1, 2012 21:59:09 GMT -5
The only benefit I see from lynching inactives is the fact they even they are townie or mafia...they provide no help. What if it is later in the game and information was critical and we don't get any because a player who posts the minimum amount of posts is still playing?
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Oct 1, 2012 22:24:53 GMT -5
True, but by the same token inactives will eventually be replaced if they remain that way. Now for those who hover between the line of active and inactive, those are a little easier to justify.
We can worry about those later on in the game though. Day One is hardly the time to start panicking and lynching people willy-nilly. If somebody is purposefully unhelpful then we can focus on them when the time comes. But by the same token right now we know next to nothing so there's not much they could say even if they wanted to.
Again, it's hard to judge during the first day phase. Nothing has happened yet and there's nothing to go on. Unless somebody makes a monumental mistake then it's either lynch someone at random or risk putting it off and deal with whatever the night phase brings us.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Oct 1, 2012 22:58:21 GMT -5
I like the discussion... but all this seems to be leading right back to our main dividing point right now.
Day Phase One: To lynch? Or not to lynch?
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Oct 1, 2012 23:08:12 GMT -5
I like the discussion... but all this seems to be leading right back to our main dividing point right now. Day Phase One: To lynch? Or not to lynch? That it is I've already weighed by position on a day 1 lynch I'm for it I say in the long run depending on who we lynch and what alignment they turn out to be and who threw votes into the pile. Lynch or not I do think each of us should place a vote on someone and not a joke vote that way when people get killed off we can look at who targeted them and who supported them or whatever. Hopefully we end up lynching someone if not at least seeing who everybody is going after could be a good sign for who might be mafia and who might be town later on in the game. Player A votes Player B Player C votes Player D Player D votes Player A Player D gets night killed and flips Town then player A and Player B would be in the spotlight since D voted A and A voted B while B didn't vote. Just an example I thought of that could happen. We got time I will vote someone by Wednesday at the latest maybe Thursday just depends I want to give everybody a chance to weigh in.
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