Batman Mafia-Hell on Earth-Day Phase 5

@ stinger... I did see your post on the last page.

Surely day 1 lynch was discussed in your previous games before tho, right?

SNS:


That seems like a very poor reason to be suspicious of someone. I already had FOS Taker prior to your post because, while I was pretty sure of who I was voting for, I was still pretty unsure about pulling the trigger because something seemed a little off. I was also waiting to see if RKTaker would change his mind about quitting the game, in the likelihood that he was town who was only saying he was mafia because he wanted out of the game ASAP.

However, like I already explained before, I decided to go with my vote for 3 reasons: 1. we needed some kind of an answer for Day 1 and a lead for Day 2 (which we got); 2. he was 100% sure he wanted out, as he said he was thinking of taking a break from mafia games once he was done with the Star Wars one; 3. I figured if he was town, then he was pretty much useless to us as a contributor (which was a shame since he was the doctor), and if he wasn't bluffing about mafia, then hey, we got a free mafia lynch.

Can't quote the locked thread.. so linking...

Yami posts:
"that doesn't mean we should be sacrificing ourselves left and right just to gain some sort of a clue"

"Trying to prevent lynching our own"

"perhaps (rktaker) is town"

Town case presented.

vote: rktaker 30 minutes afterwards

Down plays the loss of the doctor, he's glad that the lynch happened, and pretty much puts a blanket defense for anyone that voted taker

Defends the group again and now likes the idea of getting clues from a day 1 lynch, even if it was a townie

First, your "town case" also came with scenarios if RKTaker would flip mafia:



So please, don't act like you were 100% sure RKTaker was town and were defending him yourself. There were all scenarios I had already took into consideration even before your post.

Second, I like how, even though you linked my posts, that you took certain lines from them to highlight to present me as scum, even though the context of said posts are the complete opposite.

Link 1: Yes, we shouldn't be sacrificing ourselves left and right...with blind votes. RKTaker was not a complete blind vote. He claimed himself as mafia. However, there was still some uncertainty that he could have been town. Or, he could have been mafia with a plan. No one was sure, not even yourself.

Link 2: It's not preventing lynching our own when he's claiming to be mafia. Even with some possibility he could have been town, I didn't want to take that risk.

Link 3: Are you paying attention? I present my scenario of RKTaker possibly being town...a page before yours, so your post really has nothing to do with this.

Link 4: Again, your post wasn't taken into consideration seeing as how I already presented the same theory a page before. I voted because, in my eyes, there was a 50/50 chance of RKTaker flipping either town or mafia, I didn't want to take risk of it being the latter, he wanted out, and we needed answers. It's really that simple.

Link 5: How did I downplay the loss of the doctor? Because I didn't go into great detail how big of a loss that was? I said it sucks that we lost the doctor, because it DID. And when I said "Whatever happened, I'm glad it happened.", I was referring to whatever happened during the Night phase that did not lead to a townie being killed. Again, taking something out of context to benefit yourself.

Link 6: Defend the group? You mean when I said that MOST of the people who voted where just townies looking for answers? I never said ALL of them, did I? No, which means I had already considered the possibility of at least one mafia on the bandwagon. Again, a thought I'm sure came across the town's minds.


All of my points can be seen in my posts that SNS himself gathered.

Once again, I decided to vote for RKTaker because I wasn't sure if he was bluffing about being mafia. And, since it was clear he wasn't changing his mind about quitting, I thought it was worth a shot. I don't know many times I have to explain myself.

With all of that said, I wonder why you're hounding me and painting me as scum, for having the same train of thought as others who are not on your suspects list.

Personally, I don't think any of us can judge others based off of the RKTaker situation. I had a vote for somebody else, and I waited on casting my vote for RKTaker on the chance that he'd decided he wanted to stick around. There's only so many times a guy can say he wants out and doesn't want to play anymore before you grant his wish.

To try and paint somebody as scum because of that is scummy, in itself. Everybody knows how the situation went down, so to take that and present it as evidence, it's an eyebrow raiser, for me.

Just in case anybody missed it before the last thread was locked here's my most recent post.



And just to avoid making this a total retread, considering that we lost out doctor I'm thinking that narrows down the roles that made it possible: Jack of All Trades; Roleblocker; Universal Backup; Jailer; Hider. Those are the five that come to mind first. Maybe an outside chance of a Skitzo. I mean that would be right at home in this environment.

If nothing else, this game is more eventful than some. Kudos to people participating (for the most part).

I'll leave it up to everyone else... am I completely unfounded and have a "poor reason" to suspect Yami for this series of events?

Or do you see where I'm coming from, and (right or wrong) I have a right to be suspicious?

Im overthinking probably.. But if i answer that would be seen as scummy because i would have fallen in your information trap.

However, lack of answering would be scummy because id be sitting back and letting town argue amongst themselves.

Can't win.