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Post by wildojinx on Feb 4, 2013 8:46:23 GMT -5
To be fair, many movie genres go through prolonged slumps. Remember how everyone declared horror movies "dead" in the early-mid 90s prior to scream and i know what you did last summer?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 8:50:50 GMT -5
It's not that action movies are dead. It's that most action movies are utter garbage. There's plenty of good ones. The DC and Marvel films (especially Batman), the Bourne trilogy, and pretty much anything Liam Neeson's been in over the past ten years. But the cheesy one-liner films and the Michael Bay "CRASH BOOM BANG" explosion-fests don't have any shelf life. Then again, you can even argue for Bay's films that the original claim in this thread isn't true, seeing as how much money he's made from his movies.
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Post by mike2789 on Feb 4, 2013 11:06:40 GMT -5
I do love Liam Neeson. I think his movies are great, and I love Taken and Taken 2 (even though Taken 2 sucks when you compared the two together). Plus I love horrible movies so I attempt to take two different perspectives.
My first perspective is someone who loves movies, and will see almost anything that appeals to me. My second perspective is if I was someone who only went to movies every once in a blue moon.
Taken 2 was terrible. But awesome (you guys know what I mean) . The Grey was good as well, and "The A-Team" also was entertaining. I think action movies these days are more hit and miss (minus Comic Book movies)
For instance Arnold has a movie coming out next year where he is part of a team of cops that are being picked off one by one, (officially not sure of the title, and lazy right now, so I am not looking it up). That has decent appeal.
Also Fast and furious movies are very entertaining, I hate that people think they are trash, when only the second one was bad (still love it though)
I guess I just have a different taste
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Feb 4, 2013 11:16:15 GMT -5
The second one?
What about Tokyo Drift (to sleep)?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Feb 4, 2013 11:51:08 GMT -5
I think that with action, you either have to be really smart (the DK trilogy, the last James Bond movie) or REALLY dumb (Machete, Expendables, Crank) to work these days. there's too many middle-of-the-road action movies for people to want to see all of them these days.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 4, 2013 12:20:25 GMT -5
The examples you cited all look like stuff we've seen before. N hell I went and saw Last Stand hopin for a good time, but for as bad as I hated it, kinda glad it bombed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 12:48:34 GMT -5
Also - DREDD. I know it's based off a comic, but most films are either based off a comic, short story or novel anyway and DREDD bombed like crazy for a superior action film.
What about Hunger Games? That's an action film that did pretty well. Haywire, Act of Valor, Looper. There were a few in 2012 that were high quality with varying levels of Box Office success.
The few the op mentioned just sucked is all.
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Post by agent817 on Feb 4, 2013 13:09:42 GMT -5
Maybe to you, they sucked, but to me, I enjoyed them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 13:22:22 GMT -5
Maybe to you, they sucked, but to me, I enjoyed them. Granted - but my point was its not like actions films have fallen off completely in terms of critical or financial success. Or did you specifically mean just 3-4 films you liked?
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Post by agent817 on Feb 4, 2013 13:26:43 GMT -5
Maybe to you, they sucked, but to me, I enjoyed them. Granted - but my point was its not like actions films have fallen off completely in terms of critical or financial success. Or did you specifically mean just 3-4 films you liked? No, I didn't meant that last part. I agree with your first point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 13:27:22 GMT -5
The examples you cited all look like stuff we've seen before. N hell I went and saw Last Stand hopin for a good time, but for as bad as I hated it, kinda glad it bombed That and movies like Last Stand and Bullet to the Head are woefully outdated. Movies like those were popular in the 80's and early 90's but their cheesiness fell out of fashion when that era ended. I'm really amazed that Stallone would take part in a film like that, when he knows from experience that the only action films like those which actually do respectably are tongue-in-cheek productions like The Expendables which poke fun at all the reasons why those bygone films are bygone in the first place.
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Post by Ginger Beer Man on Feb 4, 2013 13:38:05 GMT -5
Oh I love a classic simple action film, nothing but love for Arnie and Sly.
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Post by agent817 on Feb 4, 2013 13:55:59 GMT -5
The examples you cited all look like stuff we've seen before. N hell I went and saw Last Stand hopin for a good time, but for as bad as I hated it, kinda glad it bombed That and movies like Last Stand and Bullet to the Head are woefully outdated. Movies like those were popular in the 80's and early 90's but their cheesiness fell out of fashion when that era ended. I'm really amazed that Stallone would take part in a film like that, when he knows from experience that the only action films like those which actually do respectably are tongue-in-cheek productions like The Expendables which poke fun at all the reasons why those bygone films are bygone in the first place. Yet, the latest Rambo movie had some good feedback and did well in theaters.
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Post by salsashark on Feb 4, 2013 14:21:59 GMT -5
The examples you cited all look like stuff we've seen before. N hell I went and saw Last Stand hopin for a good time, but for as bad as I hated it, kinda glad it bombed That and movies like Last Stand and Bullet to the Head are woefully outdated. Movies like those were popular in the 80's and early 90's but their cheesiness fell out of fashion when that era ended. I'm really amazed that Stallone would take part in a film like that, when he knows from experience that the only action films like those which actually do respectably are tongue-in-cheek productions like The Expendables which poke fun at all the reasons why those bygone films are bygone in the first place. Amen. Anyway, agent817, don't you think that Stallone, Arnie, Willis, and whoever else can aim higher? I legitimately regard those three films I mentioned earlier (Rambo: First Blood, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Die Hard) as good movies. They had interesting concepts and scripts that played up the main actor's strengths (i.e., Stallone was wounded and quiet, Arnie was just improbably weird and rugged, Willis was a smart ass who was not a superhero), so it'd be nice to see more of that again. Being a good actor or an interesting personality is not enough to keep a good career going. I enjoy Joseph Gordon-Levitt's stuff a lot, for example, but I know that it is maybe half due to him and the rest due to the fact that he generally picks he really solid or interesting scripts. I'm not saying Sly should go out and want to make indie movies, but have some standards.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Feb 4, 2013 16:38:22 GMT -5
Maybe it has to do with roided out people way past their prime. So basically they're just like wrestling?
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 4, 2013 16:41:31 GMT -5
I don't think they're dead at all, personally. I just think that The Expendables films and the Fast and the Furious franchise have the bar set so high.
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Post by mike2789 on Feb 4, 2013 19:29:15 GMT -5
Fast and Furious 3: Tokyo Drift wasn't bad. In fact I found it very entertaining and still do. It depends on your expectations.
I will not see Bullet to the Head. The trailers for it sucked. Same goes for the new Die Hard, the trailer for it just didn't seem right in my opinion but I WILL see the new Die Hard, because it's Die Hard
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Post by zeez on Feb 4, 2013 19:37:01 GMT -5
I love Jason Statham and his new movie is probably enjoyable but it looks like every other action movie he's ever been in so it's hard to justify spending the money to see something I've already seen a whole bunch of times already with little variation between them. The Arnold and Stallone films looked pretty generic too. I'm sure they are enjoyable to some extent but not worth seeing in the theaters. I can wait to rent.
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Post by Jiren on Feb 4, 2013 19:40:30 GMT -5
I enjoyed "Last Stand" but "Bullet to the head" wasn't very good.
As for "parker" it's not been released yet so I can't comment on that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2013 20:08:18 GMT -5
Monster movies turned into slashers, which turned into supernatural thrillers.
Action movies are still huge, they just turned into comic book/superhero movies.
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