Has jeff's current wins done anything for IC title

[zerosignel]

Have jeff hardys current wins helped the prestige of the intercontinental title at all?
he has beat the world champ and "the game" all whilst holding the IC title has it helped?

[cart]

No because the ic belt was an afterthought, not even an afterthought, it was a non-entity. Sometimes hardy comes to the ring without it, like he could give a crap that he's a champion.
You have to make people want it like people want the world title.

[Mr Captain Falcon]

I believe that this shows that the IC Champion is capable of big things and is capable of taking on ALL comers like a world champion. Look at who he's defeated in the recent months. Kennedy, Umaga, Orton, Triple H. This isn't the world champ doing this, it's the IC Champ.

[zerosignel]

mrkennedy said:

I believe that this shows that the IC Champion is capable of big things and is capable of taking on ALL comers like a world champion. Look at who he's defeated in the recent months. Kennedy, Umaga, Orton, Triple H. This isn't the world champ doing this, it's the IC Champ.

Exactly but they should mention more he is the IC champ and use it if not for anything to help build the title to some status

[FurryMan]

I love the direction they've been taking the midcard titles, as of late they've actualy been made out to be something that people -want- to fight for, instead of just something thats a footnote in the title races. And I voted yes to =P

[big nasty]

MVP has made the US title feel more prestiges, and he's barely defended it. they barely mention jeffs the IC champ. and when the champ doesnt wear the belt into the ring all the time, it makes me feel he doesnt care about it either. he should have been defending it, showing it off, holding it up for the crowd. but at this point RAW is all about feuds and storylines, not titles. smackdown seems to hold the belts in more high regard. seriously, was HHH vs hardy at all about the IC title, or was it about guys who were "friends" being put into a match against each other?

its a bit sad to me, because i think that jeff is a perfect guy to hold the mid-card belt for a long time (maybe a year), cherishing his title, having a few good feuds, and maybe getting a heavyweight title shot (and possibly winning), in emotional style.

[Legion]

Yes. Now all we need is for Jeff to win the top title so we can have a big tournament for the IC title like they had back after Warrior won at WM6.

Tournaments are always interesting.

[Kash Flagg]

I'd actually forgotten he was IC champ.

[ilikeRusso.]

same kash cause im so use to hardy being an over superstar wrestling and doing high flying spots all over the place.... no hardy makes the title look like you gotta earn it again and when umaga had it i thought wow what a joke no face is going to ever get it again for a long while but thank god for Roids

[SassovsHart]

popogijo said:

MVP has made the US title feel more prestiges, and he's barely defended it. they barely mention jeffs the IC champ. and when the champ doesnt wear the belt into the ring all the time, it makes me feel he doesnt care about it either.

Exactly, at least with MVP defending the belt they fit it in as sort of an angle where being US Champ means so much t him that he doesn't want to put the belt on the line. You can tell how proud his character is to hold the title.

Jeff's just barely defending the belt because there's little attention being paid to it. You'd think as the babyface, they'd want to make him a fighting champion with a a lot of title defenses. The wins have certainly elevated the guy holding the belt, but unless they pay more attention to the fact that he's IC Champion, I don't know how much it helps the title itself.

[i.Sarita.com]

jessie4950 said:

same kash cause im so use to hardy being an over superstar wrestling and doing high flying spots all over the place.... no hardy makes the title look like you gotta earn it again and when umaga had it i thought wow what a joke no face is going to ever get it again for a long while but thank god for Roids

What?

[Loki]

Yes because finally the IC Champion is portrayed like a threat, even to the World Champion, again. In the last 4 years the IC belt was put either on green guys, just hoping that would have got them over, or on stale/decayed Superstars WWE had nothing better for.

So, while Jeff Hardy hasn't really defended the belt recently, his overness is kinda helping the IC title as well, even if the title is indeed an afterthought at the moment.

A tournament could be a good idea, but only if they won't go back to the old habit, like, for example, giving the belt to Jericho or to Umaga...

[Munkie91087]

loki said:

Yes because finally the IC Champion is portrayed like a threat, even to the World Champion, again. In the last 4 years the IC belt was put either on green guys, just hoping that would have got them over, or on stale/decayed Superstars WWE had nothing better for.

So, while Jeff Hardy hasn't really defended the belt recently, his overness is kinda helping the IC title as well, even if the title is indeed an afterthought at the moment.

A tournament could be a good idea, but only if they won't go back to the old habit, like, for example, giving the belt to Jericho or to Umaga...

I don't want Jericho as IC champ again. That would require Jericho to be stuck in midcard hell again. I want Jericho in main event storylines. Doesn't have to be for the world title all the time, but at least a feature storyline going into a PPV.

[Avalanche Alvarez]

Of course not.
Half the damn time he's not defending it and his opponent usually isn't of a calibur to win any kind of title (Snitsky, Umaga, Kennedy) so it's in no real danger.

A championship title is only a championship title if the champion defends it frquently.
Not every show, but more frequently than mid card champions like Hardy and MVP do.

If it's not the top titles, management "poos" on the belts.
It's a given.

[Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone]

Yeah, Jeff seriously needs to lose the IC title. He doesn't need it anymore, and he should now be aiming for the world title. None of his recent success even involves the IC title. He should drop the IC title to Kennedy or someone due to Randy Orton interference, and then proceed to feud with Orton.

["The Maine Event" Lil' Heavy]

avalanchealvarez said:

Of course not.
Half the damn time he's not defending it and his opponent usually isn't of a calibur to win any kind of title (Snitsky, Umaga, Kennedy) so it's in no real danger.

A championship title is only a championship title if the champion defends it frquently.
Not every show, but more frequently than mid card champions like Hardy and MVP do.

If it's not the top titles, management "poos" on the belts.
It's a given.

Since when are Umaga and Mr. Kennedy not calibur to win any title? Mr. Kennedy won Money in the Back and is currently in a main event type feud with Shawn Michaels, not to mention is a former United States champion. I think he more than worthy of getting a Intercontinental Championship Match. Umaga is a former Intercontinental Champion and been in big time feuds with John Cena and Triple H. He is surely worthy of a title shot.

[Joekishi]

See if Jeff would defend the IC title and treat it as a belt that holds esteem and respect, instead of you know not wearing it everywhere...then eh...

Jeff's doing more for Jeff than the IC belt

I don't get how Umaga isn't IC level, I get that he's above the title and doesn't need it though.

At this point i'd love to see Umaga win the WWE title.

[ilikeRusso.]

Jeff hardy says his influences are the Ultimate Warrior so that he will problary go into Wrestlemania and win the world title belt with the ic on him.

[Haulk]

cart said:

No because the ic belt was an afterthought, not even an afterthought, it was a non-entity. Sometimes hardy comes to the ring without it, like he could give a crap that he's a champion.
You have to make people want it like people want the world title.

it needs a cocky heel to explain where he has defended it, and how hes proven he cannot be beaten and how valuable it is. Jeff is getting himself over ,not the belt.

[kitsunestar]

No, because nobody else has come out and said they WANT the IC title.

In order for a belt to have Prestige, other people need to want it.