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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2007 4:22:13 GMT -5
To preface this : I'm not a big fan of CM Punk. I think he's an ok (though over-estimated) wrestler that should be high on the Mid-card, going for the IC belt with guys like Kennedy, Hardy, Shelton, Holly, ect. That all out of the way : I was straight edge for about 4 years, my girl for about 3 times that. We've both since given it up, and I'll explain why : We ran with a straight edge crew, to the hilt : Worshipping bands like Minor Threat, SSD, Strife, DYS, ect., hitting shows regularly, ect. The problems arose when you realize that : A. there's a lot of Dogma in the "Straight edge ranks", and B. there really are 2 types of straight edge folks : 1. People that don't drink/do drugs and enjoy being clean (i.e. My girl and I at the time), and 2. those guys that talk about being Edge 90% of the time, look down on all non-edge folks, walk around knocking drinks out of people's hand, and generally use being edge as just one more thing to seperate themselves, to make them "better" than the rest. I think that Punk going out and showing kids that you can be "cool" (i.e. Long hair, tattoos, come off as a bad-ass, ect.) and Not indulge in drugs and alcohol is a great thing, i really do. He could actually have a great heel run with it as well, and not by being a "type 2" and being a dick, per se, but just by going WAY over-the-top with it like Angle did for awhile. he was PROUD to be a clean living baby face, and he deplored the roster of "vulgar losers" the E had at the time. Of course, the crowd HATED him for it. The same could work here. but even if you hated Kurt... you couldn't help but laugh at what he did... he played any heel perfectly
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Dec 27, 2007 7:09:39 GMT -5
that was why he ruled as a heel. watch some of his feud with raven. but with wwe's current situation, it's in their best interests to keep him face.
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Post by Loki on Dec 27, 2007 8:21:34 GMT -5
If it was 1999, Punk would be feuding with Val Venis & co...
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Post by cxcx on Dec 27, 2007 14:49:40 GMT -5
Oh definately. i LOVED Angel when He was doing that gimmick. i thought he was hilarious, and i remember being happy as hell that they had a guy that was solid in the ring AND good on the stick. By "crowd", i wasn't talking about the Smarks and Cynics (2 groups that I, admittedly, have belonged to over the years), I was talking about the kids that go with kayfabe hardcore and believe it all (I refuse to use the term "marks", as it really is a derrogatory term. We were all "marks" once and don't really gt why smarks and cynics hate on kids for it)
The E right now is faulting because they put EVERYTHING into Cena as their main face. When he got hurt, they had NO back-up plan. That's why Trips is working as a face at the moment, and Jericho, even after 2 years off (where he bagged on pro wrestling more than a handful of times), is being pushed as a face.
Good faces seem to be lacking right now, so you're right, it's definatelyt in their best interest to keep Punk a face for as long as they can
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Post by Reverend BTY on Dec 27, 2007 14:54:48 GMT -5
Does punk still play up the whole straight edge thing? I usually skip ECW but last I checked, this part of the gimmick was an after thought.
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Post by machinegun on Dec 27, 2007 14:58:43 GMT -5
jake roberts would own him Roberts/Punk promos would be epic
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Post by Jam on Dec 27, 2007 17:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by cxcx on Dec 27, 2007 17:43:55 GMT -5
That promo was amusing as hell, actually. I honestly know about a dozen guys that act EXACTLY like that. It's a shame that we've never seen him give a promo of that caliber in the E
Man, Raven looked like hell in that promo though. It bummed me out a bit. Nice to see that his promos were still solid though
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Dec 27, 2007 18:03:28 GMT -5
I just don't get why "i don't take drugs" is a boast or a reason to like him. It's like getting a "I don't rape people" tattoo. What do you want a medal? You just gave me an idea for my next tattoo! ;D
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Post by KLRA on Dec 28, 2007 15:07:02 GMT -5
See, if you think it's irritating NOW when he's "rubbing being sXe in our faces" I can't wait to see what you say when he actually full on heels it and becomes a hard-liner. If you want to know what that's like, watch the England "I HOPE YOU DIE" promo or the classic "THIS IS STRAIGHT EDGE" promo.
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