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Post by The Blue Blazer on Dec 29, 2007 15:43:13 GMT -5
Chavo has had some good moments- I loved him with the horse in WCW and his fued with Eddie- but he lacks the X-Factor that Eddie possessed Ever since WCW went out of business, he's just been another dude. Calling him a cruiserweight is borderline to me anyway. He may be in the weight class, but his style doesn't fit. And his Frog Splash sucks.
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Dec 29, 2007 22:46:08 GMT -5
So he gets called up to be an example and relagated to heat. Chavo gets a suspension and get to come back to the ecw title picture. Nice examples. Hence why I call bullshit. This story makes no sense, they push him over Carlito knowing they were going to suspend him? I mean I know everybody gets pushed over Carlito but it just seems a bit fishy to me.
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Post by Haulk on Dec 29, 2007 23:49:07 GMT -5
DH Smith , inventor of the DH Push.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Dec 29, 2007 23:54:50 GMT -5
Hey, I know Davey Boy was on roids, but I seem to recall that at the time he died painkillers were what most people blamed for his death. Painkillers taken due to the spinal injury from the stupid WCW ring trapdoor incident.
Now with steroids being all the rage for witch-hunting and finger-pointing, it seems they're now blamed for his death. And now DH is being stupid for taking roids because they killed his dad? Huh?
Well, if you want to get technical he's also taking the same steroids that saw his dad become one of the most popular wrestlers of the 80's and 90's and would have earned him millions.
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Post by Dick Foley on Dec 30, 2007 0:10:58 GMT -5
Ok, I have decided that anytime someone credits "Wrestling Observer Newsletter" the poster is just making it up. The newsletter only comes out once a week and we get these posts everyday!
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 30, 2007 8:40:07 GMT -5
Hey, I know Davey Boy was on roids, but I seem to recall that at the time he died painkillers were what most people blamed for his death. Painkillers taken due to the spinal injury from the stupid WCW ring trapdoor incident. Now with steroids being all the rage for witch-hunting and finger-pointing, it seems they're now blamed for his death. And now DH is being stupid for taking roids because they killed his dad? Huh? Well, if you want to get technical he's also taking the same steroids that saw his dad become one of the most popular wrestlers of the 80's and 90's and would have earned him millions. How was that stupid exactly? It's not like they knew it would happen and the trapdoor was there only a few times, blame the person who slammed him on it.
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Post by Ralnathane on Dec 30, 2007 22:26:53 GMT -5
It just blows my mind that Harry would take this kind of path. His family has had so much happen to it because of the use of the gas... Davey Boy (Father), Dynamite (2nd Cousin)... it is a total mystery to me that someone that has had this kind of tragedy in their live would even think that they would be able to beat the odds (even Cena has no chance of overcoming these odds) but at the same time there isn't a single reason that he should be doing this.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Dec 30, 2007 22:46:20 GMT -5
old news
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Dec 31, 2007 1:47:27 GMT -5
Hey, I know Davey Boy was on roids, but I seem to recall that at the time he died painkillers were what most people blamed for his death. Painkillers taken due to the spinal injury from the stupid WCW ring trapdoor incident. Now with steroids being all the rage for witch-hunting and finger-pointing, it seems they're now blamed for his death. And now DH is being stupid for taking roids because they killed his dad? Huh? Well, if you want to get technical he's also taking the same steroids that saw his dad become one of the most popular wrestlers of the 80's and 90's and would have earned him millions. How was that stupid exactly? It's not like they knew it would happen and the trapdoor was there only a few times, blame the person who slammed him on it. Did I say who I thought was stupid for the trapdoor incident? Uh... no. How was it stupid? Because for the sake of a crappy, pointless entrance by Warrior, the ring was gimmicked in such a way that a wrestler was injured. Yeah, it's the fault of the guy who's idea it was to have the trapdoor there, the people who okayed the idea, the guy who slammed him onto it, even his own fault as a seasoned vet not to know to steer the match well clear of it. Not one person is to blame, probably many people, but the incident as a whole was STUPID. A talented wrestler received a serious injury that eventually led to his painkiller addiction and possibly contributed to his death. All for the sake of a crappy ring entrance that wasn't necessary in any way. Where does that not equal stupid?
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Dec 31, 2007 1:51:39 GMT -5
It just blows my mind that Harry would take this kind of path. His family has had so much happen to it because of the use of the gas... Davey Boy (Father), Dynamite (2nd Cousin)... it is a total mystery to me that someone that has had this kind of tragedy in their live would even think that they would be able to beat the odds (even Cena has no chance of overcoming these odds) but at the same time there isn't a single reason that he should be doing this. I don't get why it surprises people so much that he did roids when his dad took them...how many kids grow up with alchoholic parents and ended up the same way? Or how many kids are abused sexually or phsyically and do the same to there own kids? Really isn't all that big of a shock to me...some people are just self-destructive and don't care what happens...
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Post by dh03grad on Dec 31, 2007 2:08:14 GMT -5
Hey, I know Davey Boy was on roids, but I seem to recall that at the time he died painkillers were what most people blamed for his death. Painkillers taken due to the spinal injury from the stupid WCW ring trapdoor incident. Now with steroids being all the rage for witch-hunting and finger-pointing, it seems they're now blamed for his death. And now DH is being stupid for taking roids because they killed his dad? Huh? Well, if you want to get technical he's also taking the same steroids that saw his dad become one of the most popular wrestlers of the 80's and 90's and would have earned him millions. Davey had a heart attack...at 39. Not living to see your 40th birthday is not worth millions and millions of dollars. Steroids and GH use played a definite part in Davey's death. Harry is on a highway down the same path if he doesnt wake up.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Dec 31, 2007 2:19:43 GMT -5
I don't get why it surprises people so much that he did roids when his dad took them...how many kids grow up with alchoholic parents and ended up the same way? Or how many kids are abused sexually or phsyically and do the same to there own kids? Really isn't all that big of a shock to me...some people are just self-destructive and don't care what happens... I'd hardly put alcohol abuse and sexually abusing your kids in the same category as taking steroids. Despite the media building them up as some hugely evil habit like the above, steroid use is just to enhance your bodies ability to mend itself from exercise. It's to become better looking, to perform better, to achieve in your chosen field. Some consider it cheating, but in a non-competitive business like wrestling that's irrelevant. The only thing to consider is the negative effects on one's health by using them for an extended period of time. Given that plenty of wrestlers who have used steroids have lived past the age of 39, it's not a definite death sentence. At it's worst for wrestlers it is a gamble. It is a gamble that by using them you may become very successful and earn a lot of money. Davey Boy did. Others haven't. You may die much younger than you otherwise would. Davey Boy did. However, to be fair many others also have not. But the alternative was that he could have not been a wrestler, not earned lots of money, and lived until he was 80 working in an office. Or he might have died of something else at age 40, and have lived a boring life and died a poor, average Joe. Was the gamble worth it? Maybe not to you. Maybe it was to him. To be perfectly honest here, I would much rather live 39 years as Davey Boy Smith than I would living 100 years as the dull, boring guy in a suit in an office all day. Evidently, so would Harry Smith. So good for him, I'm sure more than anyone he is aware of the possible consequences, both positive and negative, of his choices in life.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Dec 31, 2007 17:55:45 GMT -5
I think DH Smith knows good and well what he's doing.
He seen the positive/negative effects first time. Hell, it cost his dad his life in some repsects.
I say shame on WWE for making an example out of him but it's not like what WWE did was illegal. It's just a bit of a shame imo.
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