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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Oct 15, 2007 19:32:21 GMT -5
Yes I did. I was picked up my Street Team ticket earlier than I expected from one of the TNA Publicist. When I was using the bathroom on the lower level of the arena, Scott was down there buying a beer. I said hey, whats going on? He said hey how are ya and I left him alone. He was wearing jeans and a black button down shirt and didn't look to bad. That's kind of odd, seeing how he and everyone who knows him says he's stone cold sober now.... He sure is! I...I couldn't resist...sorry....
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Oct 15, 2007 20:56:30 GMT -5
I'm sure this will only increase the love some people here have for Kong. Kong injured 3 people in one match?! More if you count the emotional scarring of the viewers!
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Post by anticonscience on Oct 16, 2007 8:34:26 GMT -5
I'm sure this will only increase the love some people here have for Kong. Kong injured 3 people in one match?! yeah, but to be fair Kong is just Mark Henry in a wig so it shouldn't come as a surprise
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 16, 2007 9:13:31 GMT -5
Except that people recognize Mark Henry for what he is while they rave about Kong.
I want her to cut promos declaring herself the "Queen of the jungle." Pity Monty Brown can't come back and represent the Serengeti, they could have a feud.
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Post by poi zen rana on Oct 16, 2007 11:18:24 GMT -5
so far i have only heard of kong legit injuring people in that match from one person, why is it being accepted as fact? i would kind of like to know because my personal feeling was the injuries are kayfabed. if there is some proof somewhere please bring it to light.
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 16, 2007 11:42:49 GMT -5
I'm not saying these injuries were real, it's just that a lot of people have agreed that Kong is just a female hoss and yet people here still love her, and I don't get it at all. I guess they're so tired of skinny good-looking female wrestlers who can't actually wrestle that they're willing to embrace a hulking, ugly female wrestler who can't actually wrestle.
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Post by poi zen rana on Oct 16, 2007 11:50:34 GMT -5
but she can wrestle. she is a hoss only because she is a female. compared to males she isn't as big. which means that she can do hoss moves to women, and she is still not to big (as is generally the case with male hosses) to be agile and move well in the ring. that is just my opinion of course.
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Post by Klax on Oct 16, 2007 11:51:57 GMT -5
The way I look at is that I'd rather have a woman out there who can actually work and has a niche (Kong) as opposed to the walking blow up dolls (Hemme, Brooks, Shelly, etc) who do nothing but fill jerk socks.
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Post by comahan on Oct 16, 2007 11:53:26 GMT -5
But she CAN wrestle. Kong is simply so unique among female wrestlers, whereas people like Mark Henry are extremely common among male wrestling, so much so that he big, intimidating, male hoss character is completely watered down now. We've never seen a female version of it in any of the major US promotions (Televised Promotions), so its something new and different. Its extremely rare to see something new and different in wrestling nowadays, and for a huge portion of the audience, thats exctly what this is, and thats what draws us in.
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 16, 2007 11:53:31 GMT -5
but she can wrestle. she is a hoss only because she is a female. compared to males she isn't as big. which means that she can do hoss moves to women, and she is still not to big (as is generally the case with male hosses) to be agile and move well in the ring. that is just my opinion of course. OK, a hoss (the way I understand it) is defined as a wrestler who has little or no talent and skill but gets by on size and power alone. It doesn't just mean big, it means big and talentless. The Great Khali is the ultimate hoss. Therefore, it's contradictory to say someone is a good wrestler and yet still call them a hoss.
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Post by comahan on Oct 16, 2007 12:01:09 GMT -5
The "Hoss" is looked as even more untalented than they really are because of the people around them. They arent as mobile, arent as good of workers, arent as exciting, and so on.
And that makes sense in male wrestling.
But quite frankly, there are very few female wrestlers that the normal fan can look at and say "yea, shes a great worker" (im glossing over most Shimmer girls because the normal fan has no idea who they are), so a female version of a Hoss, in this case Amazing Kong, is just as talented as most female workers, if not moreso than 99% that the general audience has been exposed to, AND she has a super intimidating look. It would be like if The Great Khali was a lot more agile, and smooth and powerful with his moves while at the same time, being surounded by other bad workers, rather than... what he is, which is slow, immobile, sloppy, and surrounded by the likes of Taker, Edge, Hardy, MVP, Finlay, and so on.
This is of course, only my point of view, though.
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 16, 2007 12:02:14 GMT -5
The "Hoss" is looked as as untalented because of the people around them. They arent as mobile, arent as good of workers, arent as exciting, and so on. No, the hoss just plain actually IS untalented. I can see we're operating under different definitions here.
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Post by comahan on Oct 16, 2007 12:03:33 GMT -5
The "Hoss" is looked as as untalented because of the people around them. They arent as mobile, arent as good of workers, arent as exciting, and so on. No, the hoss just plain actually IS untalented. I can see we're operating under different definitions here. Uhg, thats not particularly what i meant. Im saying that theyre looked at as even less than what they are becuase of the talent that surrounds them in most cases, whereas in female wrestling, there are very few amazing workers in mainstream female wrestling for people to latch onto like Angle, Joe, HBK, Edge, Cage, Punk, and so on. Anyhow, just ignore that part, as thats the least important part of my post, imo.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Oct 16, 2007 12:57:55 GMT -5
Yeah, when I said she injured three of the others, it was what it APPEARED to be, not that she actually did as a fact...but they played it off as if they got injured and couldn't finish, either way it was pretty badass... ...and I don't know if Hall is sober or not, but the guy was def buying a beer...maybe it wasn't for him, or maybe one beer doesn't get him drunk
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Post by poi zen rana on Oct 16, 2007 14:09:16 GMT -5
but she can wrestle. she is a hoss only because she is a female. compared to males she isn't as big. which means that she can do hoss moves to women, and she is still not to big (as is generally the case with male hosses) to be agile and move well in the ring. that is just my opinion of course. OK, a hoss (the way I understand it) is defined as a wrestler who has little or no talent and skill but gets by on size and power alone. It doesn't just mean big, it means big and talentless. The Great Khali is the ultimate hoss. Therefore, it's contradictory to say someone is a good wrestler and yet still call them a hoss. well then given that definition, to me she is not a hoss. a strong power moveset yes, but to me that doesn't make a hoss. she would be talentless if that is all she did but she has great agility and isn't as one dimensional as your definition of hoss seems to be. i have seen her do some great work and in my opinion she is not talentless by any stretch and could legit out wrestle most mainstream female wrestlers in the u.s.a.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Oct 17, 2007 2:11:46 GMT -5
I just like it because basically it is something that hasn't been seen (by me at least) a lot in the states. I have never seen a female wrestler, of her size be as dominant and intimidating to the rest of the women's division. Besides, at least it's something new. Just give it a month or so, then make a decision as to if Kong's entertaining or not.
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