Jiren
Patti Mayonnaise
Hearts Bayformers
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Oct 28, 2007 22:48:16 GMT -5
Post by Jiren on Oct 28, 2007 22:48:16 GMT -5
Taker jobbed to Mabel. He's had worse losses than tonight. First it's Cena now it's Batista, Who's Next on the IWC hate list? Punk? I've always disliked Batista, so don't even go there. What details can you give about the loss to Mabel? He broke 'Taker's face with repeated leg drops, but 'Taker beat him in a casket match. He lost to Mabel in KOTR 95 after receiving a VERY weak kick to the head
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Oct 28, 2007 22:48:29 GMT -5
Post by paragon on Oct 28, 2007 22:48:29 GMT -5
Batista had to beat the Taker eventually. Not much of a feud otherwise.
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Oct 28, 2007 22:58:27 GMT -5
Post by primetime110 on Oct 28, 2007 22:58:27 GMT -5
Taker jobbed to Mabel. He's had worse losses than tonight. First it's Cena now it's Batista, Who's Next on the IWC hate list? Punk? Punks on the IWC hate list?
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Oct 28, 2007 23:14:12 GMT -5
Post by Timmy8271 on Oct 28, 2007 23:14:12 GMT -5
Not yet but it's only a matter of time.
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Oct 29, 2007 0:02:57 GMT -5
Post by Captain Wonderful on Oct 29, 2007 0:02:57 GMT -5
Khali beat him with a one foot pin. This is hardly the worst loss he's ever suffered. Khali > Batista. Its not like he just jobbed to Funaki or something. Funaki > Batista. Taker jobbed to Mabel. He's had worse losses than tonight. Mabel > Batista. I'd rather watch Khali beat someone with one chop than watch Batista struggle to be CARRIED by anyone he wrestles. Frankly, I'd rather watch a bowl of shit than Batista. It's not like John Cena, who I respect as a wrestler and as a person; even though I may be sick to death of watching him wrestle, I still do it. Maybe I'm not on the edge of my seat, but I watch him because, well, he wrestles and I enjoy watching wrestling. When Batista is on my TV, I change the channel. And I'd have no problem whatsoever with Batista being the abysmal worker that he is if he actually KNEW what he was doing, but just couldn't do it well. Do you know how bad you have to suck when the UNDERTAKER can barely carry you? But, he sells tickets, that's what a champion does. He's not over-pushed until everyone's sick of him and over-worked until he tears a muscle like John Cena. I'd have no problem with him being a lousy talker. Some fantastic wrestlers have given atrocious interviews, and, besides that, in my humble opinion, Jake Roberts set the bar for promos at a level that's simply impossible to reach, so it's almost a moot point for me. I wouldn't even have a problem with generic hoss #8675309 being world heavyweight champion. Even putting aside the fact that I'm a massive Undertaker mark, my problem with Batista is that, on top of just BARELY being able to put on a match without seriously injuring someone, he's a f***ing disrespectful, juiced-up piece of shit who doesn't deserve to win the world title ONCE, let alone three times, and he sure as HELL doesn't deserve to go over the Undertaker. The Undertaker already BEAT him for the title once, so, now, with Batista going over clean, that makes Wrestlemania look like a fluke; like the Undertaker somehow managed to steal the title only for Batista to get it back a few months later, and now he can't beat him again. Why would you do that to the Undertaker if the title's just going back to him, anyway? That's STUPID. That's not even why I hate the guy. It's not like he's the first guy ever who doesn't respect the business but still gets to carry the world title. That sucks a lot, but I don't hate someone for that. Whatever shred of respect I had left for Batista went right out the window when I read the story about him making that little kid cry because THE WORLD CHAMPION ZOMG is too f***ing good to f***ing speak to a little kid or take a picture with this CHILD who tells him he's his biggest fan. That's probably the biggest dick move EVER, and, at the time, he's the second-top babyface. I hate so much about that that I can't even think of anything funny to add to it. I also love how he "writes" a "book," and I use both of those terms loosely, in which he basically spits in the Undertaker's face in the most childish way possible and still gets to, not only KEEP the world title but pin the Undertaker cleanly. Also, he has a stupid soul patch. So, I don't know. I like to think that, since he is the only person on my "IWC hate list," that maybe I'm a bit justified; that my reasoning is better than "he sucks in the ring so I automatically hate him."
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Oct 29, 2007 0:37:34 GMT -5
Post by Timmy8271 on Oct 29, 2007 0:37:34 GMT -5
You think Batista is the only one that made a little kid cry? Who cares about that? I doubt the kid even remembers it. Are you a fan of HBK because I'm sure he did it before he went christian?
Anyways, Taker will probably win it at Survivor Series next month. It's nothing to get so bent out of shape about.
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Oct 29, 2007 4:26:48 GMT -5
Post by Captain Wonderful on Oct 29, 2007 4:26:48 GMT -5
You think Batista is the only one that made a little kid cry? Who cares about that? I doubt the kid even remembers it. Are you a fan of HBK because I'm sure he did it before he went christian? Anyways, Taker will probably win it at Survivor Series next month. It's nothing to get so bent out of shape about. A) No, of course, he's not the only one to do that. Does this make him less of a dick? Absolutely not. I care about that, and, dammit, Batista should care about that, because, like John Cena, these kids are the one's putting food on his table. Why would you treat them like shit when when they're responsible for so much of your income? B) I'm not necessarily a fan of HBK, no. I'm not NOT a fan. But I don't mark out for the guy, either. I will say this, though; before he "went Christian," he was a heel. A heel is SUPPOSED to be a giant jerkass. For everybody that a heel is a jerk to personally, that's one more person paying to see him get his ass kicked. That's what makes a heel work. The Undertaker wouldn't be where he is today if nobody wanted to see Hulk Hogan kick his ass back in the day. HBK wouldn't be where he is if he wasn't a heel. Ric Flair, HHH, the Rock, Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan HIMSELF. But what did Batista have to gain from his actions? Absolutely nothing. Regardless of whether or not the kid remembers it, his father sure does, and who do you think was buying all the Batista merchandise? There's one less person out there buying Batista shit because he was too busy or felt too important to SAY SOMETHING or just SIT THERE while someone took a picture. That's money out of HIS OWN pocket; what's the point of acting like such a spoiled prima donna? This is Smackdown's TOP babyface, the guy who everyone's paying to see, who all the kids love, and that's how he treats them? The people who put food on his table, and that's how much he appreciates them? Whether you're a fan of the guy or not, you have to admit, that's bullshit. C) I'm not so much worried about 'Taker getting the title back as much as I am about Batista keeping it. And, as far as the scripted outcome of a wrestling match, I'm not "bent out of shape." Batista is the top guy, the Undertaker isn't. As much as I hate to admit it, and as much as I'd like it to be the other way around, it's not. Batista's the one putting asses in seats. I understand that. What I'm bent out of shape about ia people receiving accolades that they absolutely do not deserve, while people who DO deserve such things aren't recognized at all, and, in some cases, buried beyond belief until they literally leave the company. Batista has done all of these horrible things, which anyone else would have gotten fired for, but he's a big draw, so that's OK. Meanwhile, you have the Undertaker, who deserves nothing BUT one legitimate title run, something he's never had, before he retires, but he can't have that as long as Batista is the top draw. I understand that, I GET IT, and that f***ing SUCKS. Just because I get how all of this works, that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I don't know, I guess I'm kind of old-school like that. For "fake" championships, the WWE titles are fairly prestigious. Their holders go down as the "elite few;" I guess I just want people to hold the titles who have EARNED them. *shrug*
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Oct 29, 2007 4:55:37 GMT -5
Post by thesam07 on Oct 29, 2007 4:55:37 GMT -5
It's not that big of a deal. It's not like they did it at Wrestlemania 24 in the Houston Astrodome and then afterwards Bats punched Takers mum in the ovaries. It was just another forgetful match on another forgetful PPV. It could be a build up for a match at Survivor Series? With more Taker videos on smackdown where the video packages show static and kids talking and a baby pram filled with ants....ok maybe not the baby pram. But still, it meant nothing. Plus maybe this was punishment for Taker for shooting on Masters at that house show last week (although very unlikely : You sir, deserve a job as WWE head writer. and a billion internets. ;D
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Hiroshi Hase
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The Good Ol' Days
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Oct 29, 2007 5:40:36 GMT -5
Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 29, 2007 5:40:36 GMT -5
Khali beat him with a one foot pin. This is hardly the worst loss he's ever suffered. True, but that MEANT something. Maybe. Well, this meant something too. You may not have liked it, but in the context of the storyline it made sense. Batista had to get the elusive victory over the Undertaker, and he finally did. I know it pisses off smarks, but it had to be done.
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Oct 29, 2007 5:42:31 GMT -5
Post by KingPopper on Oct 29, 2007 5:42:31 GMT -5
Better at Cyber Sunday then Wrestlemania
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Oct 29, 2007 6:14:47 GMT -5
Post by Ridley on Oct 29, 2007 6:14:47 GMT -5
Why, Vickie Guerrero, why?!
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