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Post by DSR on May 13, 2008 22:23:07 GMT -5
Dude, you just dissed Genis-Vell ( ), one of my favorite super...characters. Not quite a hero. But he's awesome, and easily another entry in the underrated characters list. Sorry man, but the character is as of this post...dead...while Monica is still out there and alive. IMO, they took a character I loved...who has been having identity crisis anyway...and made it worse by just blatently giving her identity to this dude that's dead and gone now anyway. Ruin living good character to help dead/temporary character? That's not right. Genis was Captain Marvel for quite some time before he died, so it's not like they intentionally did it as a "haha, we'll take her name and give it to this character we're gonna kill off right quick!" And the change in name was minor in comparison to the complete lack of attention your character got, since the change in name wouldn't have mattered if she was still made a prominent character. Both of these Capt. Marvels got the shaft.
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Post by Panda Bear on May 13, 2008 22:43:09 GMT -5
LOL and you put Cloud in the overrated thread? They are the exact same character. If anyone is underrated It's.. This little guy has a little thing called "Personality", something those two emo's don't. also FF8 sucked, Triple Triad and "Drawing magic" already brought the game down, after the horrible story.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 13, 2008 22:47:02 GMT -5
Monica Rambeau Who you might ask? Well, she used to be the new Captain Marvel from the Marvel Universe, but they decided to change her name and call her Photon instead. Then they decided to give that name to Mar-vell's worthless son, and changed Monica's name to...Pulsar...I think. After that...they dropped all names from her and...I don't have a clue what she's called now. This gal is AWESOME! She has the power to turn into light, and with that, has the ability to control and manipulate all forms of light and energy...as well as fly/move at speeds faster than light. She's probably one of the most powerful characters around...and one of the coolest African American characters that isn't either a blatent rip off of some other white hero (ala Steel and War Machine) or a stereotyped goof (ala Luke Cage). I thought she could have been the breakout character...that maybe Marvel had at last found it's version of "Wonder Woman" and Monica has lead the Avengers on several occasions and has been instrumental in some of the Avenger's greatest missions (The Shi'ar/Kree War, and the Secret Wars.). However, for whatever reason, they just dropped the ball completely with her. Maybe it was Storm's popularity, but I doubt it. I think Monica just doesn't get the respect or recognition she deserves...and needs a chance to prover herself to the comic fans. so I take it you're a fan of Nextwave then? I always felt that, in recent times at least, Ms. Marvel was Marvel's closest equivalent to Wonder Woman. instead of bringing back Mar-vell (but hey he's a skrull!) they shoulda just called Carol Captain Marvel and got over with it.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on May 13, 2008 23:02:11 GMT -5
Captain 11. I bet none of you even know who he was.
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Post by Goldenbane on May 13, 2008 23:28:59 GMT -5
Sorry man, but the character is as of this post...dead...while Monica is still out there and alive. IMO, they took a character I loved...who has been having identity crisis anyway...and made it worse by just blatently giving her identity to this dude that's dead and gone now anyway. Ruin living good character to help dead/temporary character? That's not right. Genis was Captain Marvel for quite some time before he died, so it's not like they intentionally did it as a "haha, we'll take her name and give it to this character we're gonna kill off right quick!" And the change in name was minor in comparison to the complete lack of attention your character got, since the change in name wouldn't have mattered if she was still made a prominent character. Both of these Capt. Marvels got the shaft. That's my complaint though...Genis was Captain Marvel...and I believe Monica changed her name either around that time or even before...and she changed it to Photon...but then the writers decided not to call Genis Captain Marvel...and decided to call him Photon...giving her the shaft again! I do apologize for my harsh words about Genis before, him being Captain Marvel is fine...and I don't mind his character...but I was annoyed that the writers seemed to keep picking on Monica whenever Genis needed a name switch.
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Post by DSR on May 13, 2008 23:30:57 GMT -5
Genis was Captain Marvel for quite some time before he died, so it's not like they intentionally did it as a "haha, we'll take her name and give it to this character we're gonna kill off right quick!" And the change in name was minor in comparison to the complete lack of attention your character got, since the change in name wouldn't have mattered if she was still made a prominent character. Both of these Capt. Marvels got the shaft. That's my complaint though...Genis was Captain Marvel...and I believe Monica changed her name either around that time or even before...and she changed it to Photon...but then the writers decided not to call Genis Captain Marvel...and decided to call him Photon...giving her the shaft again! I do apologize for my harsh words about Genis before, him being Captain Marvel is fine...and I don't mind his character...but I was annoyed that the writers seemed to keep picking on Monica whenever Genis needed a name switch. Yeah, it makes Genis seem like a big douche, pickin' on Monica. I could understand the first time, since Capt. Marvel was his dad and all, but that second one just seemed dumb. Stupid writers!
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Post by Goldenbane on May 13, 2008 23:31:25 GMT -5
Monica Rambeau Who you might ask? Well, she used to be the new Captain Marvel from the Marvel Universe, but they decided to change her name and call her Photon instead. Then they decided to give that name to Mar-vell's worthless son, and changed Monica's name to...Pulsar...I think. After that...they dropped all names from her and...I don't have a clue what she's called now. This gal is AWESOME! She has the power to turn into light, and with that, has the ability to control and manipulate all forms of light and energy...as well as fly/move at speeds faster than light. She's probably one of the most powerful characters around...and one of the coolest African American characters that isn't either a blatent rip off of some other white hero (ala Steel and War Machine) or a stereotyped goof (ala Luke Cage). I thought she could have been the breakout character...that maybe Marvel had at last found it's version of "Wonder Woman" and Monica has lead the Avengers on several occasions and has been instrumental in some of the Avenger's greatest missions (The Shi'ar/Kree War, and the Secret Wars.). However, for whatever reason, they just dropped the ball completely with her. Maybe it was Storm's popularity, but I doubt it. I think Monica just doesn't get the respect or recognition she deserves...and needs a chance to prover herself to the comic fans. so I take it you're a fan of Nextwave then? I always felt that, in recent times at least, Ms. Marvel was Marvel's closest equivalent to Wonder Woman. instead of bringing back Mar-vell (but hey he's a skrull!) they shoulda just called Carol Captain Marvel and got over with it. You're right about Carol...but when Monica was on the rise, Carol, at the time, was totally powerless and Rogue was running about...so Monica kinda seemed like she was the next up and comer...until...they just kinda dropped her. (I remember even in the ooooooooollllllllddddddddd Marvel RPG, she was considered a heavy player.)
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Post by Goldenbane on May 13, 2008 23:33:44 GMT -5
That's my complaint though...Genis was Captain Marvel...and I believe Monica changed her name either around that time or even before...and she changed it to Photon...but then the writers decided not to call Genis Captain Marvel...and decided to call him Photon...giving her the shaft again! I do apologize for my harsh words about Genis before, him being Captain Marvel is fine...and I don't mind his character...but I was annoyed that the writers seemed to keep picking on Monica whenever Genis needed a name switch. Yeah, it makes Genis seem like a big douche, pickin' on Monica. I could understand the first time, since Capt. Marvel was his dad and all, but that second one just seemed dumb. Stupid writers! No no...it isn't HIS fault...I think he's been around for a long long time, but I think they should have just left him as Captain Marvel, or just called him Genis instead of Photon.
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Post by DSR on May 13, 2008 23:35:20 GMT -5
Yeah, it makes Genis seem like a big douche, pickin' on Monica. I could understand the first time, since Capt. Marvel was his dad and all, but that second one just seemed dumb. Stupid writers! No no...it isn't HIS fault...I think he's been around for a long long time, but I think they should have just left him as Captain Marvel, or just called him Genis instead of Photon. Yeah, I agree. Hence "stupid writers."
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Post by Goldenbane on May 13, 2008 23:41:46 GMT -5
No no...it isn't HIS fault...I think he's been around for a long long time, but I think they should have just left him as Captain Marvel, or just called him Genis instead of Photon. Yeah, I agree. Hence "stupid writers." Oh! LOL, I thought you were being sarcastic. I looked it up on Wikipedia, and it says that now she's known as Pulsar...bleh, kind of an ugly name. Did Genis's comics become Photon or did they remain titled "Captain Marvel?"
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Post by DSR on May 13, 2008 23:47:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. Hence "stupid writers." Oh! LOL, I thought you were being sarcastic. I looked it up on Wikipedia, and it says that now she's known as Pulsar...bleh, kind of an ugly name. Did Genis's comics become Photon or did they remain titled "Captain Marvel?" Genis's title was "Captain Marvel" all the way up to the cancellation. It wasn't until after his series got cancelled that they decided to change him to Photon.
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Post by WhiteFu on May 14, 2008 0:23:54 GMT -5
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Post by The Ichi on May 14, 2008 1:10:11 GMT -5
Magneto, my favourite Supervillain.
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Post by Stu on May 14, 2008 2:11:58 GMT -5
No way is Magneto underrated. If any major X-villain is underrated, it's this guy:
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Post by Stu on May 14, 2008 2:12:50 GMT -5
I also nominate Mephisto.
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Post by J is Justice on May 14, 2008 7:59:28 GMT -5
LOL and you put Cloud in the overrated thread? They are the exact same character. If anyone is underrated It's.. This little guy has a little thing called "Personality", something those two emo's don't. also FF8 sucked, Triple Triad and "Drawing magic" already brought the game down, after the horrible story. Well, I agree Zidane's underrated.
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Post by Rorschach on May 14, 2008 12:02:28 GMT -5
No way is Magneto underrated. If any major X-villain is underrated, it's this guy: Does he even have anything going on right now? Or have the writers simply forgotten about him again? I swear, that's like Marvel's ultimate cocktease.....they pull Sinister out of the cobwebs, he makes a last page, last panel cameo, and then POOF! he's gone for another year to two years. Blech. DO SOMETHING WITH HIM, MARVEL!
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Post by DASH 243✅ on May 14, 2008 14:24:30 GMT -5
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Post by Stu on May 14, 2008 14:26:49 GMT -5
Totally agree with Firefly.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on May 14, 2008 14:54:18 GMT -5
No way is Magneto underrated. If any major X-villain is underrated, it's this guy: MIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEERR SIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEERRR! ;D
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