Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 2, 2008 15:01:25 GMT -5
I disagree, I didn't think the Luger push was that bad, he was plenty over and should've gotten the title at Summerslam. Agreed. Not winning the title at Summerslam KILLED any chance Luger had at a legit main event push. They hyped him all summer long as the "savior" that could take down the mighty Yokozuna. Fans were dying to see Luger win, and after all the hype videos, the Lex Express, etc Luger choked. They made him look like a total ass by celebrating a count out victory like he had saved the world. Then he feuds with Ludvig Borga, who had wandered in out of nowhere (save a few vingettes and a squash match at Summerslam). After a while, fans just stopped caring.
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Post by steamboat1 on Jan 2, 2008 15:08:44 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter...WWF Champion. How ridiculous was that?
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Jan 2, 2008 15:27:27 GMT -5
Even more than the InVasion, I'm thinking their biggest boner was giving Hogan the title at WM9 -- and it's not just blind Hogan hate driving me to say that. They had just gone through a transition period where they were getting away from Hogan and the bodybuilder types of the '80s and focusing on smaller, more athletic guys. At a time when they needed to do everything possible to legitimize this "new generation," especially against a monster heel like Yokozuna, they instead panicked at the slumping business (which had been slumping long before Bret Hart became champ) and went back to their old meal ticket, Hogan, who then did ... nothing. For two months. He didn't help attendance figures or merchandise or anything because he wasn't on TV, or at house shows, or anywhere. Hogan leaves, and the WWF immediately is in the position of having to find a new Hogan, since Hogan the Giant Killer was the only one who had been able to handle Yokozuna. This leads to the awful Luger push, and eventually, when that failed, they put Bret Hart on top. Which is where they had been anyway in early 1993. That one pointless Hogan episode cost them more than a year of product development at a time when they were already hurting. It also catapulted Hogan right into WCW, where he ended up being part of the re-invention that nearly put the WWF out of business. That may be the most well thought out argument on the whole Hogan winning at Mania 9 I've ever seen. Kudos. QFT. I had never thought of Hogan's title reign being too bad since he dropped it back not too long after but this really opened my eyes and makes total sense. We have a winner.
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Post by WWE Trademarked My Name on Jan 2, 2008 15:31:41 GMT -5
I'd just like to mention not having a blowoff match for Austin vs Angle. In 2001 they were in a storyline for months, it started out as Angle wanting to hang out with Austin, Angle and Austin as the 2 top guys in the company, Austin going heel and Angle becoming a massive badass. The feud was excellent, and the final match is at Vengeance, and it's not even the main event. If they didn't want to do Austin vs Hogan, the Austin Angle feud was right there for Wrestlemania. The feud should have ended at Wrestlemania, instead of ending when it did. Yeah also considering Angle had a last second feud with Kane for that Mania and Austin had a feud with Scott Hall that he was upset over.
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HRH The KING
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS
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Post by HRH The KING on Jan 2, 2008 15:35:16 GMT -5
1- The Invasion. 2- Booking Bischoff to hug Vince when he first appeared 3- Not giving Lex Luger the title at SummerSlam 4- Giving Hogan the title at WrestleMania IX 5- Goldberg not winning the title at SummerSlam
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Mac
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Post by Mac on Jan 2, 2008 15:53:30 GMT -5
I have a tough time putting minor booking boners in the same catagory as how bad the WWE blew the Invasion angle. That being said I dont really have a disagreement with anybodies opinions. But something as small as pushing Lance Storm as "boring" or putting the title back on Hogan 2 years after he was going to do anything worthwhile for the company are things that can be overcome.
But theres some things that are once in a lifetime oppertunities. The Invasion angle was something that probably won't be duplicated, at least not in my lifetime. WCW had some talented wrestlers, some over wrestlers with horrible booking and equally horrible bookers (Not Booker T) I don't consider myself a great writer by any means, but I can (and im sure many other could as well) List a dozen scenerios that would have panned out and made the Invasion much more successful than the "McMahon Family Fued" it became.
With Hogan winning the title at WM 9 it was easily repairable. Just take the title off him, they did and they put it back on the guy who had just won the title 3 months earlier. The "Higher Power?" Humongous let down but the product was so hot at the time that other than combining two different heel factions it didnt really shot anything dead and the company kept rolling.
I'm as guilty as anyone for building up high expectations when I should have learned to know better, but the Invasion SHOULD have been the biggest thing in wrestling history. It instead wasn't even "good" it wasn't "OK" it wasn't even "bad" it was an outright disaster. WCW/ECW was nothing more than the spark that lead to the angle that Vince would be involved in in 2001. And a year after that everything that led up to it and everything that happened during the whole "Invasion" almost seeked to exist and in its trail was a group of guys with no hope of getting over because they'd been so decisivly manhandled during this mess.
THATS why this is the worst decision the WWE ever made, the story basically would have been able to write itself and they blew it.
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