Why In The Extreme Rules Match

[knightboat]

Why in the extreme rules tag match did a foot on the rope stop the pin? These are extreme rules, unless you put your foot on the rope, then the person can't be touched? I'm very confused.

[samachine]

Because it's WWECW.

[Mayonnaise]

Didn't they have a screw up in one of these last year where Morrison was in a submission and Joey or Tazz said that a rope break wouldn't get the hold released just as Morrison got to the ropes and the ref broke the hold? Guess what I am saying is they have never been clear on that.

I was more wondering why they started the match as a tag match even though its Extreme Rules and the tags don't matter?

[greate]

Well....i think wrestling forgot all about rules long time ago, bunch of hacks running it these days.

[knightboat]

Yeah I remembered that submission from earlier this year, but I thought Morrison had Dreamer in a submission and the announcers said it wouldn't get released since it was extreme rules, and Dreamer eventually had to break it instead of having it realeased through getting to the ropes. I may be wrong though.

[Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black]

Getting to ropes has always broken a pin or submission, even in the old ECW.

[mysterydriver]

nightboat said:

Yeah I remembered that submission from earlier this year, but I thought Morrison had Dreamer in a submission and the announcers said it wouldn't get released since it was extreme rules, and Dreamer eventually had to break it instead of having it realeased through getting to the ropes. I may be wrong though.

Yeah. Dreamer didn't have to break the hold because he couldn't get DQed.

However, he couldn't win by submission because Morrison had made it to the ropes. He eventually had to break the hold to try and win the match.

[Stu]

I love how a decade ago during the NWA invasion, someone (I think the Headbangers) got disqualified because they threw someone over the top rope, as per oldschool NWA rules.

A week later on Nitro, the announcers just happened to find the perfect opportunity during a match to mention there were no disqualifications for tossing someone over the top rope.

[Dolph Zalgo]

It's an unwritten law of the activision.

[Robbymac]

It wasn't falls count anywhere...as a result when you touch the ropes part of your body is outside the ring, therefore you can't be pinned.

[Hiroshi Hase]

jguy4life said:

I love how a decade ago during the NWA invasion, someone (I think the Headbangers) got disqualified because they threw someone over the top rope, as per oldschool NWA rules.

A week later on Nitro, the announcers just happened to find the perfect opportunity during a match to mention there were no disqualifications for tossing someone over the top rope.

More than likely, if I recall either on Thunder or Nitro, Schiavone made the announcement that the over-the-top rule was no longer in effect.

[Blindkarevik]

Yeah, that was right after Nash injured Big Show with the Jacknife.... Schiavonne said the powerbomb was now a banned move, but to make up for it.... being thrown over the top rope was no longer grounds for disqualification.

[franchisedavis]

blu3blazer1 said:

Getting to ropes has always broken a pin or submission, even in the old ECW.

Which made Tajiri doing the Tarantula even more confusing.

[Dynamite Kid]

mysterydriver said:

nightboat said:

Yeah I remembered that submission from earlier this year, but I thought Morrison had Dreamer in a submission and the announcers said it wouldn't get released since it was extreme rules, and Dreamer eventually had to break it instead of having it realeased through getting to the ropes. I may be wrong though.

Yeah. Dreamer didn't have to break the hold because he couldn't get DQed.

However, he couldn't win by submission because Morrison had made it to the ropes. He eventually had to break the hold to try and win the match.

THANKYOU! I had always wondered how this worked.

[Bo Rida]

That's why they should publish the rule book.
Yeah a cheap plug for my thread.

[Andrew is Good]

Basically, putting your foot on the ropes is still technically a kick out. It's not like a submission hold was broken up.

The match was awesome. I really wish they have something with Miz and Morrison vs Dreamer and Delaney at Wrestlemania. Dreamer's been getting over like crazy, and having the story of the young kid getting the big win at Wrestlemania would be a great moment.

[Steve Corino Mark]

By this same reasoning, why in a Street Fight when a wrestler has his opponents in the ropes does the ref deliever the five count?

[Chainsaw]

jinxed said:

Didn't they have a screw up in one of these last year where Morrison was in a submission and Joey or Tazz said that a rope break wouldn't get the hold released just as Morrison got to the ropes and the ref broke the hold? Guess what I am saying is they have never been clear on that.

I was more wondering why they started the match as a tag match even though its Extreme Rules and the tags don't matter?

I guarantee you that the referee in that match was Scott Armstrong.

They need to drop his ass and go get Jim Molineaux and John Finnegan back.

[jon_infektion]

blu3blazer1 said:

Getting to ropes has always broken a pin or submission, even in the old ECW.

this is true, watch the old tapes or even the newer released dvds

[T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens]

joninfektion said:

blu3blazer1 said:

Getting to ropes has always broken a pin or submission, even in the old ECW.

this is true, watch the old tapes or even the newer released dvds

It has also always been the case in WWE street fights/no holds barred/no DQ matches. Unless it's falls count anywhere, you have to pin your opponent in the ring. If any part of him is outside the ring or on the ropes, it's not a legal pin. I know it's fake wrestling and they change the rules all the time, but this is one that I've actually never seen them deviate from.