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Post by dh03grad on Mar 20, 2008 14:40:13 GMT -5
There's a difference, the main event guys aren't caught. I guess Jeff Harvey wasn't main event enough. Jeff Hardy was not a main eventer. The only time his match ever main evented a PPV was against Orton. Would he have eventually became one later in the year? Maybe. Was he at the time of suspension? No. |
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Post by Joekishi on Mar 20, 2008 14:45:31 GMT -5
Just be smart if you want to do roids and use HGH. Cant be caught for it unless you're busted actually BUYING it. It would be better for your long term health not to take any roids/HGH period. Unless of course you are prescribed them for your health |
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Mar 20, 2008 20:03:49 GMT -5
I have been asking around about how he's been doing for about a year now. This is the first real thing I've heard about him in a while. Hopefully this wellness policy will eventually lead to everyone becoming clean.
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Post by Robbymac on Mar 20, 2008 20:39:59 GMT -5
I guess Jeff Harvey wasn't main event enough. Jeff Hardy was not a main eventer. The only time his match ever main evented a PPV was against Orton. Would he have eventually became one later in the year? Maybe. Was he at the time of suspension? No. Thats odd...considering he main evented the last 2 pay per views. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 20, 2008 21:03:52 GMT -5
You do know that under Wellness, suspension can mean "work TV and PPVs without pay", right? I know this is not true. They did away with this policy after the Benoit stuff. If they still did this, Jeff Hardy would be on TV right now, don't ya think? The only time I remember this actually being used was when Orton was suspended in 2006. Section 14 of the Policy is hereby deleted and replaced in its entirety as follows: "14. PENALTIES A. FOR POSITIVE DRUG TESTS OTHER THAN MARIJUANA First Offense. In the event of an initial positive result for drugs prohibited by this Policy other than marijuana, the Talent shall be fined an amount equal to 30 days’ pay deducted from your downside guarantee on a weekly basis. The Company may, at its discretion, schedule the Talent to work selected televised events without pay, pay-per-views with pay, and non-televised live events with a $200 stipend per event during the 30 day suspension period.Second Offense. In the event of a second positive result for drugs prohibited by this Policy other than marijuana, the Talent shall be fined an amount equal to 60 days’ pay deducted from your downside guarantee on a weekly basis. The Company may, at its discretion, schedule the Talent to work selected televised events without pay, pay-per-views with pay and non-televised live events with a $200 stipend per event during the 60 day suspension period. Alternatively, in cases where the Talent appears to be in need of a drug rehabilitation program, the Talent shall not be assigned to work until the individual has successfully completed the drug rehabilitation program. However, regardless of the length of the program, the Talent’s fine shall be limited to 60 days’ pay. |
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Post by Ace Diamond on Mar 20, 2008 21:49:30 GMT -5
I know this is not true. They did away with this policy after the Benoit stuff. If they still did this, Jeff Hardy would be on TV right now, don't ya think? The only time I remember this actually being used was when Orton was suspended in 2006. Section 14 of the Policy is hereby deleted and replaced in its entirety as follows: "14. PENALTIES A. FOR POSITIVE DRUG TESTS OTHER THAN MARIJUANA First Offense. In the event of an initial positive result for drugs prohibited by this Policy other than marijuana, the Talent shall be fined an amount equal to 30 days’ pay deducted from your downside guarantee on a weekly basis. The Company may, at its discretion, schedule the Talent to work selected televised events without pay, pay-per-views with pay, and non-televised live events with a $200 stipend per event during the 30 day suspension period.Second Offense. In the event of a second positive result for drugs prohibited by this Policy other than marijuana, the Talent shall be fined an amount equal to 60 days’ pay deducted from your downside guarantee on a weekly basis. The Company may, at its discretion, schedule the Talent to work selected televised events without pay, pay-per-views with pay and non-televised live events with a $200 stipend per event during the 60 day suspension period. Alternatively, in cases where the Talent appears to be in need of a drug rehabilitation program, the Talent shall not be assigned to work until the individual has successfully completed the drug rehabilitation program. However, regardless of the length of the program, the Talent’s fine shall be limited to 60 days’ pay. And since Jeff is in rehab, that's why he's not on TV. Seems pretty straightforward to me |
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Post by Garee on Mar 20, 2008 22:11:46 GMT -5
Honestly, when is everybody going to learn
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Post by EJS on Mar 21, 2008 0:38:10 GMT -5
Hm. Well in any case I know it was widely reported that they would no longer do that due to the bad public image it would cast. Perhaps the news sites made that up, but it does seem to hold true as they have never kept someone on the road since then.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 1:28:33 GMT -5
The whole "when will they learn" argument is a bit too simple. Yeah, they know about the drug use being banned but they also used them for years. It's very difficult to go from regular use of such substances to cold turkey in a matter of a couple of months.
I wish that steroids/HGH were completely eliminated. The problem is, though, people have used them to enhance their look for years. Wrestlers, for better or worse, work in a business where looks matter. Remember Michael Modest's try out on "Beyond the Mat"? One of the first things J.R. said about him was that he needed to tone up more. Not is movement in the ring, his psychology, his willingness to work, but his appearance. It's that important to the business. Again, I wish everyone could be healthy and off any sort of drugs but it won't be easy.
It's also not a simple issue of they should know better. One criticism Harry Smith received early on was that he was too skinny. Harry wants a job, he gets bigger with the wrong stuff, and he gets in trouble. But, wait, why did he do it in the first place? People wanted him to get bigger. It's not that he's stupid or "he didn't learn from what happened to Davy Boy", it's that he wanted to keep his job.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Mar 21, 2008 12:21:19 GMT -5
He's not gonna make it to Heat with that kind of mind set.
Come on, Afa Jr.
Get it together.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Mar 21, 2008 12:35:33 GMT -5
"The Company may, at its discretion, schedule the Talent to work selected televised events without pay, pay-per-views with pay, and non-televised live events with a $200 stipend per event during the 30 day suspension period."
Basically they put that rule in place so that they could write people out of storylines and get the belts off of title holders (see Jeff working last Monday's Raw). The rule is generally just in place so that they don't have to pull talent from a PPV at the last minute (as in the '06 GAB).
In most cases, they won't continue to use a suspended talent even though they have that discretion.
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Post by Palatial Regalia on Mar 21, 2008 13:49:53 GMT -5
He just got busted smoking weed on a surprise drug test most likely.
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