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Post by acressl on Jun 28, 2008 8:12:33 GMT -5
Short haired warrior doesn't quite work for me. (though I'll always be glad to see him) Also, I mark for tassles, damnit. I wish you'd see more of them.
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Post by thesunbeast on Jun 28, 2008 9:06:44 GMT -5
First of all. Cardio is a different factor, the more muscle you have, the less cardio you're going to have, and I believe that both Vince and warrior at the age of 50 aren't going to have great cardio, but I'd say that warrior would be slighly more cardiovascularly conditioned, I don't know that for a fact. Secondly, don't confuse being a bodybuilder or being in great shape with being a great athlete, or with coordination, or with strength training. Thanks. But Cardio matters, probably more than bodybuilding. Outside of the seven Ultimate Warrior marks, of which you appear to be this boards unyielding representative, most people go to wrestling matches to see wrestling, not a 50-year-old man in white underwear gas himself halfway down the entrance ramp to a theme song that isn't even the one those in attendance paid to hear. Ya dig? Well, no, I'm afraid that I can't dig it just yet. I'm not a "leading representative of warrior marks", nice try though. It just helps when, if you are against someone, don't expose yourself as just a hopelessly biased detractor, because then it will make other people view the person as completely innocent think that they're all great and dandy. You're confusing the overall principals of being in shape. Yes, cardiovascular conditioning is extremely important in pro wrestling, but i don't think that this topic between us got started based off of how good ultimate warrior is as a wrestler and how great in shape he is at wrestling, because then, I'd consider him very minimal, comparing him to the others. I said that he looks better and is in better shape than Vince Mcmahon was at the age of 50, appearance wize, which is a bodybuilding aspect when we consider both of them. I also said that I do indeed believe that he's in overall better shape than Vince was at age 50 period, but I said on this second point here that it was just my educated opinion, and not at all fact. What I mean is this. If Warrior today and Vince at age 50 got into a bodybuilding competition today, Warrior would win, and I consider that a foregone conclusion. If Warrior of today got into a cardiovascular competition or muscular endourance competition with Vince Mcmahon at age 50, I believe that Warrior would win, but this is just my opinion and not fact. That's what I was saying, not that he's better than Orlando Jordan or Sean O'Haire. Oh, and by the way, it looks like people paid to see him. Just saying.
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Post by Sir Bill of Chainsawberg on Jun 28, 2008 9:50:43 GMT -5
Oh, and by the way, it looks like people paid to see him. Just saying. I will say this about the draw for that card - Pablico Olympico (I think that's the proper spelling of the venue) is a 12,500-seat venue, and, really, unless people were busting down the gates for that mask v. mask match with Ultimo Dragon in the midcard, the only match worth the price of the ticket was Jordan v. Warrior. Now, clearly, they didn't sell the place out, but judging from the pictures and videos during the match (again, the arena cleared out quick after the finish), considering the 11 or 12 rows in the upper deck and area behind the entrance was, in fact, empty, the rest of the building was pretty full. If I had to put a conservative estimate on the draw for the night, I'd have to say it was prolly around 6,000 to 8,000. Does Warrior still have his 1989 or 1990 drawing power? Hell no. But, apparently, a 50-year-old Warrior still has the drawing power to get a decent number of people to show up to watch him take on a friggin' perennial WWE midcarder for a belt that couldn't have less worth if it were made out of used toilet paper and Yugo hubcaps.
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