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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2008 14:25:43 GMT -5
Robbie put his own job in jeopardy by:
1. Not being that valuable to the WWE.
2. Associating with TNA, when the WWE said not to.
If it were John Cena, WWE wouldn't fire him. As Cena draws money.
What reason does WWE have to keep a non-draw that shows up at TNA events?
Cry me a river.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Apr 5, 2008 20:14:31 GMT -5
In honor of Robbie......
o', man) Yo' (Open up, man) What do you want, man? (WWE just caught me) You let ‘em catch you? (I don't know how I let this happen) With who? (The fed next door, you know) Man (I don't know what to do) Say it wasn't you (Alright)
Camera panned in and WWE caught me red-handed Creeping with the fed next door Picture this, I’m Robbie of the Highlanders
How could I forget WWE still watches even when I have an injury All this time WWE was standing there never took their eyes off me
But WWE caught me on the counter (It wasn't me) Saw me watchin’ from the zone (It wasn't me) I betrayed Titan Towers (It wasn't me) WWE even caught me on camera (It wasn't me)
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Post by capnsteve on Apr 6, 2008 3:30:45 GMT -5
I can't believe people think TNA actually tried to harm his career. The person who made the decision to show him probably never in a million years would have imagined he'd be punished for it. You think a baseball player would be punished for watching another team play? The whole thing is ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2008 3:37:17 GMT -5
Even though this is the Nth (that is, I've lost count) time I've used this metaphor, need I remind you that "showing famous people in the crowd" is something that has been part of TV sporting events since time immemorial? You guys are talking like TNA went out of their way to devise / hatch some way to screw a WWE jobber out of his livelihood. Panning the camera on the fans to show that other celebrities have an interest in your sport is a tradition older than I am. How is TNA bush-league for doing what has been done for decades? PS "Ace Diamond" need not answer this post
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Apr 6, 2008 3:39:25 GMT -5
TNA: Are you gonna eat that wrestling talent?
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Post by angryfan on Apr 6, 2008 3:41:30 GMT -5
I can't believe people think TNA actually tried to harm his career. The person who made the decision to show him probably never in a million years would have imagined he'd be punished for it. You think a baseball player would be punished for watching another team play? The whole thing is ridiculous. This argument would hold water save for one thing. They put up a f***ing graphic, on live television, identifying him by name and who he worked for. He gets caught on TV, fine, his fault for being there. Still his fault he was there, but what logic says "hey, he works for the other guy, so if I put up a graphic with his name and employer, it'll be fine". He put himself in a situation knowing the consequences. He sat in the stands instead of backstage. He was caught on camera. All of these thigns were his own fault, with the camera only being partially so. However, once the graphic went up IDing him, that means the camera was actively looking for him and someone in the back took the time to make the graphic to place it on air. That's not "woops, we had no idea", that's intentional.
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Post by EJS on Apr 6, 2008 3:48:22 GMT -5
WWE tries to get football teams banished from the NFL once or twice a month.
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Post by Throwback on Apr 6, 2008 3:50:01 GMT -5
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Post by samachine on Apr 6, 2008 4:06:56 GMT -5
TNA: We're tattletales
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Post by Ace Diamond on Apr 6, 2008 4:23:36 GMT -5
I can't believe people think TNA actually tried to harm his career. The person who made the decision to show him probably never in a million years would have imagined he'd be punished for it. You think a baseball player would be punished for watching another team play? The whole thing is ridiculous. This argument would hold water save for one thing. They put up a f***ing graphic, on live television, identifying him by name and who he worked for. He gets caught on TV, fine, his fault for being there. Still his fault he was there, but what logic says "hey, he works for the other guy, so if I put up a graphic with his name and employer, it'll be fine". He put himself in a situation knowing the consequences. He sat in the stands instead of backstage. He was caught on camera. All of these thigns were his own fault, with the camera only being partially so. However, once the graphic went up IDing him, that means the camera was actively looking for him and someone in the back took the time to make the graphic to place it on air. That's not "woops, we had no idea", that's intentional. Agreed with this 100%. TNA had a choice to make, and they decided to make the wrong one. Using the incident they created to hawk their mobile service because apparently that was the only thing of importance that happened in TNA over the past two weeks only further proved that compared to WWE they're like the younger brother who seeks approval by doing incredibly childish and stupid things.
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Post by capnsteve on Apr 6, 2008 22:21:42 GMT -5
I can't believe people think TNA actually tried to harm his career. The person who made the decision to show him probably never in a million years would have imagined he'd be punished for it. You think a baseball player would be punished for watching another team play? The whole thing is ridiculous. This argument would hold water save for one thing. They put up a f***ing graphic, on live television, identifying him by name and who he worked for. How does making a graphic equal trying to get him in trouble? If the Cubs put up a graphic pointing out Dave from the White Sox, would he get in trouble? I'm wondering about WWE's logic here. Do they think there's people who'll stop watching Raw because Robbie was there? Obviously everyone who recognized him already watches WWE programming. It has no potential to either help TNA or hurt WWE, just like every other random celebrity appearance.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 6, 2008 22:25:08 GMT -5
It's the principle they told their entire roster not to do something and he did it....he's in the wrong for not listening and TNA is in the wrong for being extremely bush league about it..
He's lucky this is 2008 and not 98 if an active WWF wrestler had been shown on WCW tv they'd have probably been fired within hours.
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Post by Throwback on Apr 7, 2008 2:18:07 GMT -5
I'll make it really simple for you guys to understand.
It makes it really hard to push a guy as a superstar when he's sitting with the average fan at the competition's show.
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Post by The G.O.A.T. on Apr 7, 2008 9:43:04 GMT -5
How come nobody cried when Tommy Dreamer being at a house show in Ny was put out on TNA mobile??? Ok so there were no camera's but still, isnt that fraternizing with the enemy nonetheless???
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Post by big nasty on Apr 7, 2008 9:52:34 GMT -5
the fact that a WWE low level jobber going to a tna show is such a huge deal to them just shows how miniscule and inconsequencial tna is compared to the WWE. and even tna knows it.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Apr 7, 2008 11:11:38 GMT -5
TNA: We make WWE fanbois cry
TNA was showing multiple sports celebrities in the crowd that night (Detriot Tiger baseball players and a Pittsburgh Steelers football player) in the same fashion. People here are making it seem like the shot of Robbie sitting in the crowd was the main event of the night.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Apr 7, 2008 11:30:47 GMT -5
TNA: We make WWE fanbois cry TNA was showing multiple sports celebrities in the crowd that night (Detriot Tiger baseball players and a Pittsburgh Steelers football player) in the same fashion. People here are making it seem like the shot of Robbie sitting in the crowd was the main event of the night. Once again, TNA decided to take this ball and run with it by making it the only selling point for their Mobile service this week. To them it WAS the main event of the night. Hell they were even trying to be all insider about it by putting up his real name...oh wait that's so they wouldn't have been sued into oblivion by Vince. But the point is they knew he was there, they spent the time making a graphic (live TV doesn't exactly allow you to take your time on this) and went "Hey check this out for a laugh it'll be kinda like the time the Radicalz showed up in the crowd at WWF events only this has no actual purpose other than to be major assholes" And yes, major assholes. You know why? Because even the guys in the TNA locker room thought it was a total dick move on TNA's part. As the BTR guys said "They didn't even put his ring name up there, he's someone who hasn't been anywhere but HeAT for the past 3 months, what was the point of that?"
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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 7, 2008 12:06:03 GMT -5
I never get tired of people thinking TNA mentions WWE every week, especially when those people probably never even seen TNA since 2006. God, a 20 second appearance to hype ORLANDO as a wrestling mecca and that's it gets shoved around like it's a beacon of bush league-ness. People act like they dragged Robbie from his house and stuck him in the ring and had Russo come out and hit him with a phone and cut a 20 minute promo on him. He was in the audience cause he decided to be there. He was in the line to be in the audience, willingly, so I bet he knew he was gonna get filmed at one point or another. Someone in the back saw him and brought him in and showed it. Was it stupid to highlight him? Yes,if only cause you had people in the back pissed off. Is it a big deal? Hell no. Hell, most people didn't know who it was, even with his name there. I thought it was Droz to be honest. So what if they had a TNA Mobile? It's not the first time they did some news thing for the phone. It's not riding on this, it's just business as usual. It's not like they put a big picture of him on the front page and bragged about it. It was a few passing references. It's not the same as the VKM Stuff from before at all. In summary, get over it.
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 7, 2008 12:14:35 GMT -5
It would be classy if TNA actually offered him a job for ruining his own job..think they might? ...............Nah,
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Post by Andrew is Good on Apr 7, 2008 12:41:51 GMT -5
My issue is people in TNA were being vaginas about it. Plain and simple.
Does that mean guys in WWE weren't being vaginas about it? Absolutely not. WWE was being retarded about having WWE and TNA wrestlers not being able to go backstage and visit friends. Keep in mind that Christian Cage and Chris Jericho live in the same neighbourhood, and Gregory Helms and Velvet Sky are dating, likely living in the same friggin house.
My opinion on it is this. Yes, WWE were douchebags, but TNA decided to be douchebags by taking advantage of the fact WWE were being douchebags. It's that simple. Robbie was just there to see a friend, in Johnny Devine, somebody who is starting to get an actual push for the first time in his wrestling career. TNA knew that WWE was being crazy about stuff like that, but, they had to take the low road and show him on television.
It's like when Kurt Angle was filming WWE stars for some dumb reality show. Angle was being a vagina, because he knew the guys would get in crap for it. Yeah, again, WWE is being stupid for their stupid rules, but does that mean Angle should be a vagina by taking advantage of that. Hell no.
This is the absolute proof that there will never be a union in wrestling, because there's so much backstabbing and douchebaggery that it seems a lot of people in the buisness only give a damn about themselves, and don't care at all about anybody else.
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