Marvelously Mediocre
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on May 3, 2008 4:52:02 GMT -5
I'm loving it. I don't think Adamle sucks, I think he's doing it all on purpose. If he truly sucks, they ain't going to make him the focus of a storyline. Have you heard any of his other 30 years of broadcasting? it was all a work he was signed to WWE the whole time.
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Post by I Like Rocks on May 3, 2008 5:04:48 GMT -5
Man can't WWE just get Joel Gertner ? That would be awesome
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Post by angryfan on May 3, 2008 5:13:12 GMT -5
Man can't WWE just get Joel Gertner ? That would be awesome I'd love it, but they'd never be able to air half (if not more) of his commentary.
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Post by stevierichardsfan on May 3, 2008 7:04:54 GMT -5
nice
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Post by angryfan on May 3, 2008 7:26:11 GMT -5
Me too. I really really hope that he legit sucked to begin with, and the E decided to run with it as a true-to-life gimmick. If the whole thing has been a work, then it will have been a huge letdown. Him making legit mistakes seems alot more funny than worked mistakes..but then again Santinos mistakes are high-larious, but then again Santino isn't a douche with no charisma. I'm actually hoping for it to be the other way and in fact lean more towards it. Here are the reasons why. One it would be great to find out that WWE came up with such a good elaborate angle such as an announcer messing up and eventually walking out. It is very believable and has everyone talking not knowing what is real and what isn't. WWE hasn't pulled that off in years. The other reason is because I don't see how in the world Adamle could suck that bad. No one that bad could be in sports commentating for thirty years. Also I watched the old American Gladiators and he was extremely good on that show. Sure he wasn't JR or anything but he knew the product and was a good play by play. 30 years behind a mic and sucks? I submit Tim McCarver as proof that this does, in fact, happen.
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Post by davidblade on May 3, 2008 8:43:40 GMT -5
Have you heard any of his other 30 years of broadcasting? Where he has been involved as the main focus in storylines I presume? Another reason is that he would have had to go through try outs to get on TV. They wouldn't have just thrown him based on his Gladiators work. Also consider that if you look at job adverts on the WWE corporate website, you see this for on air talent roles: ''Candidates must possess knowledge of WWE programming, talent and story lines.'' So there is no way Adamle would have been allowed out there calling people Mike The Miz, calling the boot to the face a knee to the chest, calling a leg bar a figure four etc etc. Even consider that in his first interview with wwe.com he states how long he has watched the product and used to go when he was younger, and he also displays knowledge of current stars. There's a reason it was common knowledge a backstage announcer is earning 300 grand a year despite being terrible. WWE wants us to know it. I agree. This whole thing has got to be a work. There is no way they would hire someone who knows nothing about Pro Wrestling unless they were really that stupid. My thinking is that they are finally trying to trick the "smarks" into believing a storyline. I hope to see more of it. I mean come on it would be so easy. All they have to do is feed some bullcrap story to a wrestling news site like the observer through a "WWE source".
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Post by angryfan on May 3, 2008 8:51:36 GMT -5
Where he has been involved as the main focus in storylines I presume? Another reason is that he would have had to go through try outs to get on TV. They wouldn't have just thrown him based on his Gladiators work. Also consider that if you look at job adverts on the WWE corporate website, you see this for on air talent roles: ''Candidates must possess knowledge of WWE programming, talent and story lines.'' So there is no way Adamle would have been allowed out there calling people Mike The Miz, calling the boot to the face a knee to the chest, calling a leg bar a figure four etc etc. Even consider that in his first interview with wwe.com he states how long he has watched the product and used to go when he was younger, and he also displays knowledge of current stars. There's a reason it was common knowledge a backstage announcer is earning 300 grand a year despite being terrible. WWE wants us to know it. I agree. This whole thing has got to be a work. There is no way they would hire someone who knows nothing about Pro Wrestling unless they were really that stupid. My thinking is that they are finally trying to trick the "smarks" into believing a storyline. I hope to see more of it. I mean come on it would be so easy. All they have to do is feed some bullcrap story to a wrestling news site like the observer through a "WWE source". Problem with that is, there is zero money to be made in it. None. If you want a "bad announcer" who will come out, botch everything from the name of the company to individuals, go with long moments of silence that throws of casual viewers who just say "God, he's awful" and change the channel, you've done nothing but shoot yourself in the nuts with a nailgun, so to speak. If he's really this bad, then it's merely a case of someone saying "hey, he's got a lot of experience and he looks all serious, let's give it a chance", then realizing wherever they put him, he wasn't ready. If he's not that bad, and this is all for lawlz, then, frankly, wny? If it's a work, but everyone says "this HAS to be a work" you've fooled no one and just confused the casual fans. If this is a shoot, he is that bad, and people think it's a work, you've hurt yourself even more, because the smarks were actually giving far too much credit in terms of "trying something new". Yes, you fooled the 'net, but, again, at what cost? And lastly, if this is a work that everyone buys into...congratulations. You fooled people using an announcer. Will the fact that, as it turns out, Adamle isn't the second coming of David Crockett make anyone, anywhere want to throw down some cash? Hell F***ing no it won't. Like I said, no matter what the outcome, it just has no upside.
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Post by mainsupreme on May 3, 2008 10:41:03 GMT -5
well... I'll be tuning in to find out. And that's the whole point
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 3, 2008 11:12:04 GMT -5
I agree. This whole thing has got to be a work. There is no way they would hire someone who knows nothing about Pro Wrestling unless they were really that stupid. My thinking is that they are finally trying to trick the "smarks" into believing a storyline. I hope to see more of it. I mean come on it would be so easy. All they have to do is feed some bullcrap story to a wrestling news site like the observer through a "WWE source". Problem with that is, there is zero money to be made in it. None. If you want a "bad announcer" who will come out, botch everything from the name of the company to individuals, go with long moments of silence that throws of casual viewers who just say "God, he's awful" and change the channel, you've done nothing but shoot yourself in the nuts with a nailgun, so to speak. If he's really this bad, then it's merely a case of someone saying "hey, he's got a lot of experience and he looks all serious, let's give it a chance", then realizing wherever they put him, he wasn't ready. If he's not that bad, and this is all for lawlz, then, frankly, wny? If it's a work, but everyone says "this HAS to be a work" you've fooled no one and just confused the casual fans. If this is a shoot, he is that bad, and people think it's a work, you've hurt yourself even more, because the smarks were actually giving far too much credit in terms of "trying something new". Yes, you fooled the 'net, but, again, at what cost? And lastly, if this is a work that everyone buys into...congratulations. You fooled people using an announcer. Will the fact that, as it turns out, Adamle isn't the second coming of David Crockett make anyone, anywhere want to throw down some cash? Hell F***ing no it won't. Like I said, no matter what the outcome, it just has no upside. I concur. It's a dumb storyline that will generate what in the way of dollars exactly?
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on May 3, 2008 11:16:58 GMT -5
He can't do the basic broadcasting job right now. They're gonna make it more difficult by having him play a "heel" announcer? Yeah, this is the WWE Creative mental process. This'll work. He'll make it work. And to answer why Tazz ran out with him? He drove Tazz to the arena. Do you think Tazz was gonna ride the bus home? Think again.
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on May 3, 2008 11:18:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I see a total of Zero Payoff on this one.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on May 3, 2008 11:47:42 GMT -5
I agree. This whole thing has got to be a work. There is no way they would hire someone who knows nothing about Pro Wrestling unless they were really that stupid. My thinking is that they are finally trying to trick the "smarks" into believing a storyline. I hope to see more of it. I mean come on it would be so easy. All they have to do is feed some bullcrap story to a wrestling news site like the observer through a "WWE source". Problem with that is, there is zero money to be made in it. None. If you want a "bad announcer" who will come out, botch everything from the name of the company to individuals, go with long moments of silence that throws of casual viewers who just say "God, he's awful" and change the channel, you've done nothing but shoot yourself in the nuts with a nailgun, so to speak. If he's really this bad, then it's merely a case of someone saying "hey, he's got a lot of experience and he looks all serious, let's give it a chance", then realizing wherever they put him, he wasn't ready. If he's not that bad, and this is all for lawlz, then, frankly, wny? If it's a work, but everyone says "this HAS to be a work" you've fooled no one and just confused the casual fans. If this is a shoot, he is that bad, and people think it's a work, you've hurt yourself even more, because the smarks were actually giving far too much credit in terms of "trying something new". Yes, you fooled the 'net, but, again, at what cost? And lastly, if this is a work that everyone buys into...congratulations. You fooled people using an announcer. Will the fact that, as it turns out, Adamle isn't the second coming of David Crockett make anyone, anywhere want to throw down some cash? Hell F***ing no it won't. Like I said, no matter what the outcome, it just has no upside. Err, how about giving it a chance to progress slightly? They haven't had one single show since he walked off, so to say there is no possible upside is ridiculous. Absolutely anything could come of this. If you take Vince blowing up - it doesn't 'put anyone over' or anything, but you let the story progress, because eventually it should do. I don't think it's to fool the net, and the net alone. It's simply to once again blur the lines between real and scripted. Once you get people thinking 'is that real?' you generate curiosity. I bet more people in recent months have seen ECW than in the last year simply because of watching the stream or the youtube compilations. In any case, I don't think it's just a cheap ratings plot. WWE are too clever for that. The advantages of them having no competition mean that they can take their time with angles, where in the year to place them etc etc, because they haven't got anyone breathing down their necks and forcing their hand. If they are doing this all as a work, it's for very good reason. It's been carefully considered, and the guys with the wrestling knowledge and decided that whatever they are doing with Adamle is worth it. I don't know how this is all going to progress, but I'm liking it so far. The beauty is people don't know where they are going with it. It hasn't confused the casual fans, because the casual fans HATE him. That's instant emotional investment. Large amounts of people on here just think he truly sucks. Others, such as me and DD believe it's a work. No-one truly knows. That's what's good about it. I want to keep watching just to see where they go with it. It will have to involve a wrestler(s) somehow, and they will have planned for it. I beg the question again - when an 'on air talent role' states that you need to have working knowledge of the product, and also strong announcing skills - why are they giving this job to Adamle? Why are they letting it be known that he is being paid a very large amount more than anyone who does a similar job? This isn't a backyard fed - he would have had to go through trials beforehand to get this role to prove his competence. Vince has no reason to pay him so much, or even employ him at all, let alone give him an announcing job on one of his shows. Why not let Matthews handle it? Why not Grisham? If they absolutely must give it to Adamle, because of his experience, why not let Grisham have sit in for a month or so while Adamle learns the job, and the company, and then takes the reigns? Why throw him into a big storyline on his show if he truly sucked? And how come there was no improvement week on week? If he was being totally unprofessional and not learning, why is Vince persisting with him, and paying so much to someone who is unprofessional at that? Is the star-power or 'experience' of Adamle so great that they can look past the fact that he is clearly terrible at his job, and keep him just because? I really doubt it. Again, I could be totally wrong. He could just be bad, and Vince really wants this guy to succeed. Considering they've now given him possibilities via the website - e.g. Is he quitting? Is he demanding yet more money? Is he emotionally fragile after the abuse he has received? - I find it difficult to believe that they are going to give this guy that is supposedly a bumbling buffoon in the mic a chance to develop this, because he is going to have to cut some kind of promo, and it's going to have to be acted well, in order to explain the walk out. Now if he was so terrible, are they really going to give him that responsibility? Notice that with Coach, they take him off air, no fan fare, no elaborate walk out, no nothing. He's just gone. They got their replacement in, and moved along. Now why couldn't they do the same with Adamle? Why not realise he is poor, and give it to someone else? Why create a massive storyline for this amazingly imcompetent guy - it would be the last thing he needs if he truly did suck. My guess is that they want Adamle because he proved he could play the role of 'announcer who sucks but still can make it try to look like he's trying' role down to a tee. They could have got Jack Korpella, and told him to go out there every Tuesday and stink the place up. They chose Adamle though, for good reason. He has some good quirks, and a charisma that makes him perfect.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 3, 2008 16:50:06 GMT -5
See, personally I think you're assuming alot of strong feelings that just aren't there for a lot of people.
For me personally, if he truly sucks I don't really care, I've only half paid attention to ECW during his tenure anyway-- and if it's a work I'm fairly apathetic too, except to wonder if a bumbling announcer is really the best thing they could come up with to drive storylines on what is their acknowledged C show?
Depending on your definition of casual fans, if that means fans that aren't privy to 'net news etc., I don't think they'd care at all. At best I think they'd be confused.
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Post by Rorschach on May 3, 2008 17:32:21 GMT -5
I agree. This whole thing has got to be a work. There is no way they would hire someone who knows nothing about Pro Wrestling unless they were really that stupid. My thinking is that they are finally trying to trick the "smarks" into believing a storyline. I hope to see more of it. I mean come on it would be so easy. All they have to do is feed some bullcrap story to a wrestling news site like the observer through a "WWE source". Problem with that is, there is zero money to be made in it. None. If you want a "bad announcer" who will come out, botch everything from the name of the company to individuals, go with long moments of silence that throws of casual viewers who just say "God, he's awful" and change the channel, you've done nothing but shoot yourself in the nuts with a nailgun, so to speak. If he's really this bad, then it's merely a case of someone saying "hey, he's got a lot of experience and he looks all serious, let's give it a chance", then realizing wherever they put him, he wasn't ready. If he's not that bad, and this is all for lawlz, then, frankly, wny? If it's a work, but everyone says "this HAS to be a work" you've fooled no one and just confused the casual fans. If this is a shoot, he is that bad, and people think it's a work, you've hurt yourself even more, because the smarks were actually giving far too much credit in terms of "trying something new". Yes, you fooled the 'net, but, again, at what cost? And lastly, if this is a work that everyone buys into...congratulations. You fooled people using an announcer. Will the fact that, as it turns out, Adamle isn't the second coming of David Crockett make anyone, anywhere want to throw down some cash? Hell F***ing no it won't. Like I said, no matter what the outcome, it just has no upside. I agree. The only "upside" would be for the people who love to bash the Net fans, because they'd be able to sit back, thumb their noses and say "You Eye Dubya See folks ain't so smart after all, is ya?!?" some of which I have already seen taking place here. If that's what Vince was after....ummm....congratulations. I mean, I guess it DID make some of us net-savvy fans take a bit more interest in ECW....but it's not interest that's going to be maintained, and honestly, it hasn't led to me personally watching ECW at all. I just surf YouTube for the latest screw up. But for the casual, non netsurfing WWE fan....this is just going to be HORRIBLE to sit through, and will most likely lead to them tuning out.
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Post by davidblade on May 3, 2008 18:21:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure where this will go but I'm sure they are going to do something with it. The only thing I can really think of is that they are going to co-promote with American Gladiators. Sure Adamle hasn't done American Gladiators since 1996 but people would still get why he would bring in someone like Wolf from there to wrestle. Honestly I don't think that sounds like a bad idea because it would help both shows.
Sure Wolf might not be liked by most wrestling fans considering the outrageous gimmick but you know people will at least tune in to see if he is actually good or not.
I honestly don't see this going any other way. It has got to be something with American Gladiators. I mean why in the hell would WWE hire a guy that is older than JR to eventually take over JR's spot? That makes no sense. Ever since I heard Adamle was going to be on WWE I automatically thought it had to be some type of thing they are doing with American Gladiators.
It might suck. It might not. We just have to wait and see. No reason to judge it now. I mean hell its got everyone talking about it so I think it did it's job and has gotten over so far even if people think it is stupid. IF they really didn't like it they wouldn't be saying anything about it. Same reason people boo John Cena. If they really didn't like him they would not even respond to him in any way. Booing him gives him some type of reaction which is why he still has the big top guy face spot.
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Post by Steveweiser on May 5, 2008 14:13:06 GMT -5
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Post by Ace Diamond on May 5, 2008 14:16:57 GMT -5
I hope Adamle goes heel, and no one cares. Interesting Poll Thread, which heel would be cared about the least? Your options include Mike Adamle, Snitsky (and not as an obligatory reason for once), The NotEdges, Bam Neely, Chavo Guerrero, or Shelton Benjamin
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Post by Cactus Jack on May 5, 2008 14:19:21 GMT -5
Wow. Serious elevation on that dick.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on May 5, 2008 14:23:54 GMT -5
i'd like to see Adamle as the ECW GM...he would be like a poor man's Regal but it could be great
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Post by Tapout on May 5, 2008 14:37:06 GMT -5
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