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Post by Hensley on Jul 23, 2008 17:02:57 GMT -5
It'll always mean something, but I doubt it ever gets back onto it's former level.
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Post by romafan87 on Jul 23, 2008 23:35:03 GMT -5
 It's still real to him. Damn. It's been almost 3 years and I avoided using that cliche. f***. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2008 10:58:06 GMT -5
I'm sure it means something to the NWA sub-groups, but to you and me, it doesn't even rate a blip on the wrestling radar these days.
The NWA title is much like the Los Angeles Dodgers, to paraphrase a previous poster. In it's hey-day, they were a top dog; but now, it's just sad.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Jul 24, 2008 11:17:36 GMT -5
It's worthless. It is even worth less now that it is being used in ROH. I mean come on. It meant more when smurfin Dan Severn held it for YEARS!!! Now if it a piece of tin, ROHs answer to the European title. That doesn't say much for the once sacred NWA WORLD Title.
The only people it really matter to is indy workers. Indy workers affiliated with the NWA...
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Post by The only Buzz Sawyer mark ever on Jul 24, 2008 11:53:11 GMT -5
It will mean a lot in 20 years time when NWA is back on top and Triple H is starting his 35th WWE world title run after beating some immobile hoss.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Jul 24, 2008 14:55:29 GMT -5
It will mean a lot in 20 years time when NWA is back on top and Triple H is starting his 35th WWE world title run after beating some immobile hoss. keep dreaming |
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Post by Handsome Halfbreed on Jul 24, 2008 16:07:47 GMT -5
To me what killed it is the lack of top quality world championship caliber athletes who carried the title after 1994. Shane Douglas would have trully given the belt some credibility but we all know what happened there.
Chris Candido, as much as I repect the man when he got it the damage was done and he wasn't quite ready to carry a dwindling World Championship ala Rick Martel and the AWA belt.
Dan Severn IMO was a strong champion but he became stagnant and disinteresting.
Mike Rapada as someone already posted a pic of is hardly even worth mentioning. He did further damage to the titles credibility.
The mid to late 90's were a crucial time to keep the NWA title looking strong but the ball was dropped more often than it was carried.
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Post by Handsome Halfbreed on Jul 24, 2008 16:15:16 GMT -5
Speaking of the NWA title... I recall a rumor back in 2000, ECW was going to work an angle in which Steve Corino would win the NWA title then go on to win the ECW championship. He would then cut a promo mirroring Shane Douglas's but instead throw down the ECW belt and declare ECW as Eastern Championship Wrestling and again part of the NWA. This was supposed to be ECW's answer to the nWo angle. But due to financial difficulties and various other agreements falling through the cracks, the angle never got going.
Was there any truth to this???
Its a shame it didn't happen. I think this was the shot in the chest ECW needed.
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Post by The Masked Mr TZ on Jul 24, 2008 21:13:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure of the validity of that rumor, but that is an awsome idea.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 24, 2008 21:42:02 GMT -5
It's hard for me to think of a world title as meaningful in this day and age if the title is not defended to a wide TV audience or on PPV. This isn't the seventies.
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Post by Mister Yummy on Jul 25, 2008 2:37:49 GMT -5
It still has meaning. The NWA title was what got me watching TNA, and when it left, I stopped. Breifly. As far as I'm concerened, it's the REAL World Heavyweight Wrestling Championship. It's every bit as prestigious as the (WCW) World Heavyweight Championship, and much more prestigious than the Ring Of Honor Heavyweight Championship or the TNA Heavyweight Championship, and nearly as high up there as the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.
The NWA is THE governing body of professional wrestling, and next to the WWE they have the most say. They have the history and the liniage. They only thing they lack is...well...huge names holding the title, national TV exposure, and title defences around the world. Don't get me wrong, those things are very important, and keep me from considering the TNA and ROH titles as world titles, but the history alone does it for the NWA World Heavyweight strap.
When considering a title for World Championship status, you must ask yourself, "Is the title held be someone who could be considered the best wrestle in the world?" and "Is this title sought out be people who can claim to be among the best wrestlers in the world". Well, I've never seen Adam Pearce wrestle, and I know little of the current day NWA affiliates, but I must say that they're likely the best non-nationally-televised wrestlers in the world. I mean, at least the NWA is in Japan, Canada, Mexico, and the US. The new TNA Heavyweight Championship is almost never defended outside florida, and when it is, it's always in the US. They've been out of the country with the title once or twice, but it was very sparingly.
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Post by Handsome Halfbreed on Jul 25, 2008 7:35:08 GMT -5
When considering a title for World Championship status, you must ask yourself, "Is the title held be someone who could be considered the best wrestle in the world?" and "Is this title sought out be people who can claim to be among the best wrestlers in the world". Well, I've never seen Adam Pearce wrestle, and I know little of the current day NWA affiliates, but I must say that they're likely the best non-nationally-televised wrestlers in the world. I mean, at least the NWA is in Japan, Canada, Mexico, and the US. The new TNA Heavyweight Championship is almost never defended outside florida, and when it is, it's always in the US. They've been out of the country with the title once or twice, but it was very sparingly. I see where you're coming from but thats really splitting hairs there. It would be like being critical of MLB's 'World Series' for being a lesser championship b/c it only includes North American countries. The 'world' in World Champion pertains to the league and many would agree that the MLB is the best baseball league in the world. In regards to wrestling I feel the WWe is the best league in wrestling therefore suggesting that their world title is the most prized world championship. |
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Post by corndog on Jul 28, 2008 1:58:12 GMT -5
Well the arguement is over, most of you think the NWA world title is meaningless. Mainly what I was asking is the lineage still there. I was suprised to see 25% still think the title means something. It would be interesting if the NWA could make a comeback and become a top fed again. Really it just needs a legitimate champion and better promoting, which is easier said than done.
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