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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 20, 2008 11:39:39 GMT -5
I was looking at a VHS tape of this year's Super Bowl last night (I record it every year so I don't miss any good commercials), and I've been imagining how torturous that season must have been for Patriots fans. Or how torturous it would have been for me if I were following them.
Think about it- as the winning streak progresses, the pressure mounts and mounts and mounts, to the point where the Pats HAD to win every game in order to save some kind of face. I don't think it'd be too much fun to have to pull for a team that's one loss away from being a laughingstock. (And yes, their season ended in the worst way imaginable and they did wind up being a relative laughingstock.)
To me, it's all an extension of the saying "the bigger they are, the harder they fall". I felt the same sense of dread in early 2002 when the Rams (my team) went into Super Bowl XXXVI. Everyone at my school was convinced that St. Louis was going to run over New England, but I had a bad feeling about the whole thing. I just don't get caught up in hype when my favorite team is expected to win- I just want to wait until the smoke clears. Cheering for an underdog has to be a lot less stressful.
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Post by cheeseisgood on Aug 20, 2008 11:49:45 GMT -5
I'm actually wearing my 18-1 shirt right now.
Patriots fans can suck it. They're bandwagoners, turn a blind eye to everything Bill Belichick does, and won't even admit when their team was bested. They're the worst.
After Raider fans, that is.
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Post by The Tank on Aug 20, 2008 12:20:08 GMT -5
I remember the first time the Patriots won.
A friend of mine was the only person in our school convinced the Pats would win. The rest of us (29 of us) made fun of him for it.
After the Patriots won, he got very sick and was out of school for a month. Before he got back, (before we knew he was sick) we joked that he was at home watching the game over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and..........
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Post by BRV on Aug 20, 2008 12:51:10 GMT -5
So hey, thanks for bringing back the worst memory of 2008. Anything else you want to drudge up while you're at it?
There aren't words to describe the feeling following the Super Bowl. I could write a novel explaining the gamut of emotions that my body ran through during that game. I went from overwhelmingly confident at kickoff to nervous at halftime to an emotional wreck going into the fourth quarter.
I was the ultimate sports stereotype following the game. I just sat in the darkened room by myself, not talking to anybody and I silently sulked into bed around 1:30 that night. Sleeping after that game was by far the worst part of the ordeal, because it was just me and my thoughts. All that ran through my mind was "Why didn't they kick the field goal?", "How did they not sack Eli?", "How did Asante/Meriweather not catch that interception?", among other variable curse words. The next morning I was just in a foul mood. I didn't go to class, I barely mustered the strength to go to the dining hall for lunch and I couldn't watch or hear anything about football for at least 3-4 weeks. I still have yet to see a replay of the Eli-to-Tyree pass. I saw it happen live on t.v., and that was it.
This year's Patriots losing was ten times more bad than the Patriots winning in 2002 was good, if that makes any sense. The feeling of defeat is always more overwhelming than the feeling of victory. During the Celtics championship run this past Spring, all I kept thinking was how bad it would feel if they lost to Atlanta/Cleveland/Detroit/Los Angeles, not how good it would feel if they won. When they did win, it wasn't a cause for celebration so much as it was mental relief for me. In 2002 I was too naive. I knew the Rams were a force but I didn't know they were the powerhouse expected to run roughshod over the Patriots. I had watched all 18 previous Patriots games that season and thought to myself there was no reason why the Patriots shouldn't have beaten the Rams. When Vinatieri's kick split the uprights I was overjoyed but not stunned.
This past year, when the Giants beat the Patriots, it was the same but different. I had watched all 18 Patriots games and figured this would be a walk in the park, as the Giants were led by some hillbilly that threw the ball like a drunken derelict for 16 games in the regular season and then found some magic in the playoffs. I'm still convinced if they play Super Bowl XLII 100 times, the Patriots win at least 95 times. The Giants just caught them on one of those other five Sundays.
As for the Celtics, and this is going to make me sound like a total bastard, but it needs to be said. My buddy from Maryland figured that if the Celtics won the NBA Championship it would be some kind of redemption for the Super Bowl. It actually made that game hurt worse. The Red Sox were champions, the Celtics were champions, how could the Patriots f*** up their chance to complete the Triple Crown? They were a sure thing! Even if the Patriots win Super Bowl XLIII, it won't redeem this past year's fiasco. There are certain losses that stick with you even after the stink has been washed away. Aaron Boone's 2003 walk-off still kind of hurts to watch, I still go practically cross-eyed thinking about the 2002 Celtics after they came back against the Nets, and Super Bowl XXXI still kind of smarts to watch highlights of. Time does not heal all wounds.
I can say hands down that the only thing worse than Super Bowl XLII would be if Bob Kraft announced one day that he was up and moving the Patriots out of New England.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Aug 20, 2008 12:54:53 GMT -5
I'm actually wearing my 18-1 shirt right now. Patriots fans can suck it. They're bandwagoners, turn a blind eye to everything Bill Belichick does, and won't even admit when their team was bested. They're the worst. After Raider fans, that is. Is your 18-1 shirt the same one on bustedtees.com? If it is, I have that same shirt. That's awesome.
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Post by HoagieWithPastrami on Aug 20, 2008 12:55:10 GMT -5
I prefer when my team (in football, the Steelers) is an underdog. Less pressure. I know if we lose, it's not a big deal, but if we win we'll get crazy accolades for knocking off a team we were supposed to lose to.
On the other hand, when we're big favorites I get paranoid. What if the guys aren't taking the opponent seriously enough? Then if we lose I have to hear "How did the Steelers let (insert name of underdog team) beat them?" for awhile, and it sucks.
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Post by Mac on Aug 20, 2008 13:07:00 GMT -5
I'm actually wearing my 18-1 shirt right now. Patriots fans can suck it. They're bandwagoners, turn a blind eye to everything Bill Belichick does, and won't even admit when their team was bested. They're the worst. After Raider fans, that is. Patriots fans arent anything more than bandwagoneers. Its true. Thats why they've sold out every game for 15 years and have a waiting list that could fill another stadium by itself. Stupid bandwagoners. Most Patriot fans have no problem seeing the game for what it was. a great game that basically came down to who executed better in the end. The end result was the Giants won a very even game. I think the world outside of the rational New England sports fan saw that this wasn;t the same team that was slaughtering teams at the begining of the year. The previous week they beat the debilitated CHargers team at home and BARELY. They played like slop and had Rivers/LT/Gates been healthy they would have lost that game. The week before that it took Brady to be near perfect to outplay David Gerrard, whos good, but not on Brady's level. The two picked apart the others defense. The Pats D looked like anus that game despite only giving up 20-21 or something. Couple weeks before that they again BARELY beat the Giants via TWO breakdowns in the Giants secdondary on consecutive plays. Before that they beat the Dolphins, but... it was the Dolphins Week before that they were in a slugfest with the awesome 4 win Jets and beat 'em by 10 in some pretty awful weather. Week before that they destroyed Pittsburgh Week before that they were a couple of bonehead plays from the Ravens away from a loss in a game where they couldnt stop the run to save their lives. Week before that they eeked out a win against a broken down Eagles team AT HOME and had more than their troubles with the juggernaut AJ Friggen Feeley. 8 weeks in a row where one turnover here or there and a couple of plays where the other team shot themselves in the foot and the Patriots could have lost. People who blame ESPN for not playing it down the middle and being too much of a hype machine certainly looked like hypocrits thinking the Patriots were just rolling into the Super Bowl on an epic tear.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 20, 2008 13:16:03 GMT -5
So hey, thanks for bringing back the worst memory of 2008. Anything else you want to drudge up while you're at it? If Red Sox fans and the national sports media at large can keep shoving the 2004 World Series down my throat, I can talk about this.
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Post by jobber2thestars on Aug 20, 2008 13:17:34 GMT -5
I disagree with calling Patriots fans bandwagon jumpers. There are many people, myself included, who were fans from before the disastrous Pete Carrol era, up until today. Same goes for the Celtics. I can't even tell you how many games I've been to where the C's have lost. I was disappointed about the loss, but got over it, and am looking forward to another undefeated season.
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Post by BRV on Aug 20, 2008 13:45:06 GMT -5
I disagree with calling Patriots fans bandwagon jumpers. There are many people, myself included, who were fans from before the disastrous Pete Carrol era, up until today. Same goes for the Celtics. I can't even tell you how many games I've been to where the C's have lost. I was disappointed about the loss, but got over it, and am looking forward to another undefeated season. Whenever a team becomes successful people will instantly jump to the conclusion that their fans are bandwagon fans. People won't hesitate to call Patriots fans bandwagoners but will turn a blind eye to the fact that the Patriots have sold out every home game for 15 years, despite some very bad teams from 1997-2001, a metal and concrete high school field doubling as their home stadium and weather that would make most people stay home and watch the game with a cup of hot cocoa. It comes with the territory of the Patriots being successful. Whoever the next "out-of-nowhere" team happens to be, they'll be the next bane of everyone's existence and every person who cheers for them will be a fairweather fan. Success breeds jealousy. Its just how it is. Just remember, the same people who hate the Patriots now are most likely the same people who cheered for them in Super Bowl XXXVI and loved the story of the scrappy underdogs with the no-name quarterback beating the big bad Rams.
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Post by Supersmark is a Troll on Aug 20, 2008 13:47:58 GMT -5
I'm actually wearing my 18-1 shirt right now. Patriots fans can suck it. They're bandwagoners, turn a blind eye to everything Bill Belichick does, and won't even admit when their team was bested. They're the worst. After Raider fans, that is. Is your 18-1 shirt the same one on bustedtees.com? If it is, I have that same shirt. That's awesome. (Wears 1983 11-1-0 shirt) I've got a shirt like that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 13:48:08 GMT -5
I'm actually wearing my 18-1 shirt right now. Patriots fans can suck it. They're bandwagoners, turn a blind eye to everything Bill Belichick does, and won't even admit when their team was bested. They're the worst. After Raider fans, that is. What's wrong with Raiders fans?
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Post by cheeseisgood on Aug 20, 2008 23:45:18 GMT -5
I'm actually wearing my 18-1 shirt right now. Patriots fans can suck it. They're bandwagoners, turn a blind eye to everything Bill Belichick does, and won't even admit when their team was bested. They're the worst. After Raider fans, that is. Is your 18-1 shirt the same one on bustedtees.com? If it is, I have that same shirt. That's awesome. Yes. Quite possibly the greatest shirt in the history of our sport!
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Post by cheeseisgood on Aug 20, 2008 23:47:54 GMT -5
I'm actually wearing my 18-1 shirt right now. Patriots fans can suck it. They're bandwagoners, turn a blind eye to everything Bill Belichick does, and won't even admit when their team was bested. They're the worst. After Raider fans, that is. What's wrong with Raiders fans? Nothing, if you enjoy gangs and being shanked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2008 23:55:22 GMT -5
being an Eagles fan, i hate every team, but there are 4 teams I hate more than the rest: Giants, Cowboys, Steelers, and the Patriots. so therefor the super bowl sucked ass for me, and its a lose lose situation. but in retrospect im so glad the patriots lost and those annoying smug ass boston fans shut the hell up.
for about 4 months, anyway
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Aug 21, 2008 0:11:23 GMT -5
No, offense, but when my team goes 7-9 and uses 5 QB's within one year, I'm hard pressed to find any sympathy to the "plight" of Patriots fans.
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Post by BRV on Aug 21, 2008 1:19:36 GMT -5
No, offense, but when my team goes 7-9 and uses 5 QB's within one year, I'm hard pressed to find any sympathy to the "plight" of Patriots fans. Don't worry. I totally understand. 2002... 2004... 2004... 2005... 2007... 2008... Somehow we'll get by. We just gotta manage. It's a day by day process.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Aug 21, 2008 1:21:04 GMT -5
No, offense, but when my team goes 7-9 and uses 5 QB's within one year, I'm hard pressed to find any sympathy to the "plight" of Patriots fans. Don't worry. I totally understand. 2002... 2004... 2004... 2005... 2007... 2008... Somehow we'll get by. We just gotta manage. It's a day by day process. Eh, we all have our moments. I was glad the Celtics won. It made my boy Insomniac happy so that's cool.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Aug 21, 2008 1:36:38 GMT -5
I disagree with calling Patriots fans bandwagon jumpers. There are many people, myself included, who were fans from before the disastrous Pete Carrol era, up until today. Same goes for the Celtics. I can't even tell you how many games I've been to where the C's have lost. I was disappointed about the loss, but got over it, and am looking forward to another undefeated season. And I hate when people call you a Bandwagon fan when you are not from that Region. I Grew up a Sox and Pats fan. Half my family is from up there. I always get called bandwagon. I Became a Tampa Fan when the Oilers Left. Got Called a Bandwagon Fan when they won the Superbowl.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Aug 21, 2008 1:40:15 GMT -5
I disagree with calling Patriots fans bandwagon jumpers. There are many people, myself included, who were fans from before the disastrous Pete Carrol era, up until today. Same goes for the Celtics. I can't even tell you how many games I've been to where the C's have lost. I was disappointed about the loss, but got over it, and am looking forward to another undefeated season. And I hate when people call you a Bandwagon fan when you are not from that Region. I Grew up a Sox and Pats fan. Half my family is from up there. I always get called bandwagon. I Became a Tampa Fan when the Oilers Left. Got Called a Bandwagon Fan when they won the Superbowl. Bandwagon Hotrod making his Bandwagon excuses again! Bandwagon.
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