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Post by hargh on Oct 27, 2008 13:02:19 GMT -5
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Post by sloride on Oct 27, 2008 13:11:19 GMT -5
RAW hasn't been great the past couple weeks and the ratings show it. We had million dollar mania as Vince was unhappy with all the low 3 ratings. Now he's be estatic if he got a rating in the low 3's. I'm still going to watch it as I'm a WWE fan. But I find myself looking forward to Smackdown which I don't do with RAW. I record it, watch it the next morning and fast forward through all the ads and endless Cena promos.
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Post by metylerca on Oct 27, 2008 13:23:42 GMT -5
this is the first time i've ever complained enough to consider not watching. am i not allowed to have an opinion? Apprantley. I'm honestly thinking about not coming to the WWE section unless I'm checking the SvR thread and spoilers. Can't say a damn thing negative about the product without the Fun police coming out and overreacting every single time. It's not that people are negative, but more often than not, they'll make it seem as though WWE were some horrible, force-fed disease or something that they cannot escape. If you don't like the show, then don't watch it. I know you'll probably hate reading that but I personally hate coming on the boards to see 34 threads about how much WWE/Batista/IWC hatred sucks because it isn't suited for all of your preferences. And, also in turn, it does take the fun out of watching for others. I mean I watched Cyber Sunday last night, and the moment Batista won, I told my uncle that I'm sure someone (or some people) will complain about Batista being champion, and I made an estimate that three people will proclaim that they're going to stop watching WWE until one of their favorites is the champion. Then I came on the boards and found that my predictions weren't all that far off. The point is, you can have your opinion, but why does it have to be presented in a negative manner? Why can't people just write "This show was underwhelming because of ________? It's a hell of a lot better than "I have never been more embarrassed" or "Stupid. Lame. Pointless." -metylerca
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Post by bob on Oct 27, 2008 13:38:34 GMT -5
We will get the predictable Boring Jericho whining to Adamle leading to a rematch in a cage. We will get the boring Batista "I'm champion again" speech. We will get a random Diva match that is in no way related to Beth. We will get Charlie Haas dressed as someone jobbing out to someone. The tag titles might get defended. Santino will come out and celebrate, mock someone, get interupted and end up jobbing out. Punk will do nothing relavent (remember when he was world champ? Wasn't that interesting). We'll probably get boring HBK rant about boring JBL. You see where I'm going with this? I'm fed up of Raw. I will no longer be watching. then don't watch
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Post by Krimzon on Oct 27, 2008 13:42:04 GMT -5
RAW hasn't been that good since Mike Adamle took over. At least now there's Monday Night Football & Heroes. I don't have to sit through an entire RAW. Now, after I see Kofi, Santino, CM Punk, & whoever Haas is for that week, I usually call it quits before they air the 23rd John Cena promo of the night.
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Oct 27, 2008 13:43:39 GMT -5
wow, whatever happened to optimism? fair enough if the product as a whole is the same, but alot of angles ended last night, so the show you see tonight may be completely different to what we had before. give it a try i say, and if you hate it then don't watch next week, but at the moment you dunno what's gonna happen with rey, the ECW exchange, cryme tyme/mizorrison, santino etc, since all their old stuff ended at the PPV.
but eh, you don't wanna watch, don't. it's just that the first show after a PPV is usually the best one of the month.
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Post by primetime110 on Oct 27, 2008 13:44:03 GMT -5
Right now, I compare Raw to a movie you don't want to see but your girlfriend makes you watch it. You can tell your friends all day you won't watch it, But later on there you are watch that boring ass movie with her. ( Happen with me with the worst movie ever made, The Notebook).
Raw does suck right now, But I have to watch. I have since the begining. Hopeing each week that something will grab my interest.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Oct 27, 2008 13:46:14 GMT -5
I agree that RAW is subpar at this point... but I'm still going to watch every week. This. I can complain all I want about how crappy it is every week, but I know I'm still going to give Vince McMahon 2 hours of my time every Monday.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Oct 27, 2008 13:51:04 GMT -5
I'll give it a chance, we are starting the build-up to Survivor Series so some fresh stuff may happen.
Besides WWE always has a slow period in between Unforgiven and Cyber Sunday, now is the time of year things start to pick up.
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Post by Stab Sword on Oct 27, 2008 13:52:49 GMT -5
I think Raw will be bad so i'm dvring it tonight
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Oct 27, 2008 13:57:50 GMT -5
Apprantley. I'm honestly thinking about not coming to the WWE section unless I'm checking the SvR thread and spoilers. Can't say a damn thing negative about the product without the Fun police coming out and overreacting every single time. It's not that people are negative, but more often than not, they'll make it seem as though WWE were some horrible, force-fed disease or something that they cannot escape. If you don't like the show, then don't watch it. I know you'll probably hate reading that but I personally hate coming on the boards to see 34 threads about how much WWE/Batista/IWC hatred sucks because it isn't suited for all of your preferences. And, also in turn, it does take the fun out of watching for others. I mean I watched Cyber Sunday last night, and the moment Batista won, I told my uncle that I'm sure someone (or some people) will complain about Batista being champion, and I made an estimate that three people will proclaim that they're going to stop watching WWE until one of their favorites is the champion. Then I came on the boards and found that my predictions weren't all that far off. The point is, you can have your opinion, but why does it have to be presented in a negative manner? Why can't people just write "This show was underwhelming because of ________? It's a hell of a lot better than "I have never been more embarrassed" or "Stupid. Lame. Pointless." -metylerca while it annoys me that Batistas is champthat's not the reason i might not watch for a while. the product as a whole has bored me for months. the only things keeping me tuned in are Adamle, Santino and Morrison. Edge needs to return now!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2008 13:58:19 GMT -5
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Post by Loki on Oct 27, 2008 14:01:01 GMT -5
Yes. Raw sucks, Smackdown sucks, ECW sucks because it isn't ECW, booking all sucks, characters all suck, PPVs all suck, everything blows. Did I miss anything? Something else everyone has to complain about endlessly? Remember when this board used to be a FUN place to post? Good lord. This is just sad. This! Holy cow, now we're getting WORST RAW EVER threads before the show has actually aired... I wonder why so many "fans" feel compelled to waste their time posting in here about how horrible WWE/wrestling is, especially if they're not watching (or swear not to watch anymore). It's getting tiresome and definitely not fun, especially when people take themselves and wrestling so damn seriously. Don't like it? So stop watching and stop f'n littering this place with all the negativity. TEW is rather cheap, buy it for less then the cost of a WWE PPV and have fun booking a wrestling show how you'd love it to be. And post us the ratings, BTW
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Post by Man Hating Horace on Oct 27, 2008 14:01:27 GMT -5
We will get the predictable Boring Jericho whining to Adamle leading to a rematch in a cage. We will get the boring Batista "I'm champion again" speech. We will get a random Diva match that is in no way related to Beth. We will get Charlie Haas dressed as someone jobbing out to someone. The tag titles might get defended. Santino will come out and celebrate, mock someone, get interupted and end up jobbing out. Punk will do nothing relavent (remember when he was world champ? Wasn't that interesting). We'll probably get boring HBK rant about boring JBL. You see where I'm going with this? I'm fed up of Raw. I will no longer be watching. It could be worse. DX could come out, do the crotch chops and tell jokes. We could get the predictable Boring Jericho whining to Adamle leading to a rematch in a cage, then get chased out of the ring by DX. We could get the boring Batista "I'm champion again" speech, followed by DX coming out and all three crotch chopping to DX's music. We could get a random Diva match that is in no way related to Beth, then DX comes out, gets the Divas to strip and dance around to DX's music. And possibly some crotch chops. We could get Charlie Haas dressed as someone jobbing out to someone. DX will come out and take both guys out. The tag titles could get defended, end in a DQ and DX come out and take out all six guys. Santino could come out and celebrate, mock someone, get interrupted and end up jobbing out. Both job to DX. Punk could do nothing relevant other then dance backstage with DX, Big Dick Johnson, Boogeyman and Hornswoggle. We'll might get a boring DX rant about JBL and various others having a small one, and Lita being a slut.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 27, 2008 14:07:13 GMT -5
So...I just wrote a long post filled with some (now outdated) points such as how I still enjoy Raw because Jericho is champ, but then I realized that Cyber Sunday was last night and that isn't the case anymore. I deleted said post but I'm sure somebody had quoted it beforehand just to make me look like an ass. Egg, meet face. I will however just paste the parts of my rant that still stand: I've been on vacation so only managed to catch a snippet of last weeks Raw, so I can't comment on how good or bad things have been lately. But honestly, if that much is bothering you about the show, I think it's time to either stop watching, or at least take a break from watching. I tend to give myself a policy that if there isn't a minimum of 2 things I'm currently looking forward to between Raw and Smackdown (I don't bother much with ECW aside from checking out the occasional match if it sounded good), I simply wont watch until things sound interesting again.
Raw has had a very unpredictable year in terms of consistency. For a few weeks we had Million Dollar Mania. In my opinion, those Raws during that time were a low-point as far as 2008 goes, but then what happened? We got the most interesting draft lottery yet, Vince McMahon took another off-screen vacation, and CM Punk shocked the World and rocked the IWC by becoming WHC. I don't think I'd ever gone from apathy to exictement as quickly as I did during that period of Raw.
So yeah, I've rambled on a bit here, but the bottom line is this. Stop watching if you find absolutely nothing to look forward to, but if you've got enough optimism, stay on board, stick with the stuff you do enjoy and wait for the next big thing to occur (which is usually around the corner, judging from how this year has turned out so far).Ok, that's that. P.S. - Damn you Batista. DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
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Post by King Boo on Oct 27, 2008 14:11:14 GMT -5
To all the people who are now complaining that they're not allowed to complain about stuff....seriously? What I usually see on here is complaining.
No one is saying you have to like every single thing you see but for the love of poundcake, the negativity grows old. We're now at the point where the show is hours away from even being on and it's being called bad.
Those of you who are insulted that your perpetual disdain for everything WWE is being met with some disdain directed your way? Yea well I'm insulted by being made out to feel like some mindless, ignorant sheep because I'm not hating on everything the WWE does. That attitude is way more offensive to me than anything the WWE has done recently.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 27, 2008 14:12:55 GMT -5
Yes. Raw sucks, Smackdown sucks, ECW sucks because it isn't ECW, booking all sucks, characters all suck, PPVs all suck, everything blows. Did I miss anything? Something else everyone has to complain about endlessly? Remember when this board used to be a FUN place to post? Good lord. This is just sad. It still is a fun place to post. For me to tell you all how much I like wrestling and how much emotion and thought I put into it, and then get ruthlessly mocked. I am looking forward to Raw, and if it sucks, I will be looking forward to discussing that. That's a pretty good point. Then again, I am Vince's number one apologist, a random guy online told me so. Ho ho!
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 27, 2008 14:30:39 GMT -5
Yes. Raw sucks, Smackdown sucks, ECW sucks because it isn't ECW, booking all sucks, characters all suck, PPVs all suck, everything blows. Did I miss anything? Something else everyone has to complain about endlessly? Remember when this board used to be a FUN place to post? Good lord. This is just sad. This! Holy cow, now we're getting WORST RAW EVER threads before the show has actually aired... I wonder why so many "fans" feel compelled to waste their time posting in here about how horrible WWE/wrestling is, especially if they're not watching (or swear not to watch anymore). It's getting tiresome and definitely not fun, especially when people take themselves and wrestling so damn seriously. Don't like it? So stop watching and stop f'n littering this place with all the negativity. TEW is rather cheap, buy it for less then the cost of a WWE PPV and have fun booking a wrestling show how you'd love it to be. And post us the ratings, BTW Someone get me the citizen Kane gif.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Oct 27, 2008 14:43:44 GMT -5
On the whole, Raw's have been much better this year than in the past few years (IMO, this is the best year since 04) but we do seem to be in a slump. I will watch regardless, but I haven't been excited to watch Raw since shortly after Unforgiven. It just feels like a habit.
And to everyone complaining about the board not being fun, all of the times this place is actually fun to be around is when people are legitimately excited to tune in every week. I believe if Raw was more fun, then this board would be more fun.
To quote the great Gregory Helms, "I'm just saying"
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Oct 27, 2008 14:45:32 GMT -5
And to everyone complaining about the board not being fun, all of the times this place is actually fun to be around is when people are legitimately excited to tune in every week. I believe if Raw was more fun, then this board would be more fun. To quote the great Gregory Helms, "I'm just saying" that is the truith. although i thinking referee batista is the keeping the fun alive.
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