Going to ECW hasn't really helped Matt Hardy

[azz0r]

Has it?

In my opinion he's put on weight, not taken as a main title holder, hasn't had a memoriable title run, hasnt had much promo time.

When Punk jumped to Raw, it was slightly believable that he could hold the heavyweight title....not the impression I get with Matt Hardy.

Matt needs a re-invention imho.

[Hiroshi Hase]

I don't think it's to help Hardy, but for Hardy to help ECW.

The guy had two great matches this week with Shelton and Finlay, he's over with the crowd and doesn't really need a whole lot of promo time anyways.

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

Nov 15, 2008 9:30:22 GMT -5 azz0r said:

In my opinion he's put on weight

This is not a recent development

[Deleted]

Its weird really, before he became champion I was a big fan of his. Now he's actually won a major (ish) championship, I've found him to be quote boring and....generic to be honest.

[azz0r]

Yeah exactly ^

He's done nothing memorable, hasn't been billed as a winner, hasn't shown any personality.

[Red Impact]

I don't think it's anything new. I always thought Matt was the more generic brother.

[Steveweiser]

I have a feeling he'll get more interesting soon, especially if he has to deal with his psycho brother on SmackDown.

[ASYLUMHAUSEN]

Nov 15, 2008 9:40:39 GMT -5 azz0r said:

hasn't shown any personality.

as Hank once said he's "...carrying on an old Family Tradition."

Matt Hardy has always had the personality and mic skills of bottle of gatorade doesn't do anything for me pesonally.

As for his brother...wacky hair, drugs and trying to kill yourself for no reason other than the sake of killing yourself by diving off of high places does not equal personality.

the fact their both DEATH on the mic doesn't help either.

As I said in the psyho jeff hardy thread; if matt (or jeff) is the butter to your particular toast that's cool....I personally just don't see the appeal.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

I like Matt more as a throwback - rather like Bret Hart in the late '80s and early '90s, albeit not as technically sound. He doesn't do anything really spectacular, but what he does do is very solid. I do miss his v1.0 gimmick, but he's over with the fans, sells a ton of merchandise, and despite the lack of a memorable feud since winning the title (which is the crux of the problem I feel), is doing a good job as champ.

Give him an interesting challenger - Morrison perhaps, or maybe move someone over from Raw, a returning Christian ... or maybe even Psycho Jeff - and things would be a lot different.

[Avalanche Alvarez]

Nothing is going to help ECW.
It's just a matter of time.
Despite it's low value, at least Hardy can say has a "significant" title belt and got to be the top guy of a brand.
He slaps a few tornadoes, dries up some seas, he's happy.

[greeby]

You're missing the point of the exercise. They moved Hardy, Finlay and Hornswoggle and Mark Henry to ECW to give the show a relative level of star power. As compensation for taking all of ECW's established names in the draft

[Snitsky]

Nov 15, 2008 15:37:59 GMT -5 greeby said:

You're missing the point of the exercise. They moved Hardy, Finlay and Hornswoggle and Mark Henry to ECW to give the show a relative level of star power. As compensation for taking all of ECW's established names in the draft

but judging by the ratings it hasnt worked

[Avalanche Alvarez]

Nov 15, 2008 15:39:50 GMT -5 Snitsky said:

Nov 15, 2008 15:37:59 GMT -5 greeby said:

You're missing the point of the exercise. They moved Hardy, Finlay and Hornswoggle and Mark Henry to ECW to give the show a relative level of star power. As compensation for taking all of ECW's established names in the draft

but judging by the ratings it hasnt worked

Exactly.
I still think the "trimming" of wrestl...supersta...what the hell is he calling them now?....the firings is leading to something.
Bye bye ECW, for one thing.
Anyone know how long the new contract Sci-Fi gave 'em was for?

[greeby]

^^^ TV deal is supposed to expire next month, but Sci-Fi's January schedules came out and ECW was on it

[Cap'n Crud]

I really think they should have let him continue to do his V1.0 gimmick rather than his generic being Jeff Hardy's brother gimmick.

[Snitsky]

Nov 15, 2008 15:48:51 GMT -5 Cap'n Crud said:

I really think they should have let him continue to do his V1.0 gimmick rather than his generic being Jeff Hardy's brother gimmick.

the problem is matt is a cornball- plain and simple , a clever cornball ill give him that he would do as a mad professor psycho type

at the end of the day wwe prefer jeff over matt and some of that is matts fault, they move matt to the 3rd rate show and give him some championship no one cares about but yet they put jeff on smackdown with hhh and give him shots at getting the prime prize in the WWE

[azz0r]

Sci-Fi already renewed another year.

[bob]

Matt's run in ECW hasn't been memorable for one reason: he's been there for a number of months and he's only feuded with 1 guy, Mark Henry. Nothing against him but a wrestler needs to feud with more then 1 talent to have a good run.

[mysterydriver]

Mark Henry was a more interesting champion in my opinion. I wish he'd get the belt back.

Matt is good for some nice matches, but is admittablly dull on the mic.

[Jay Carroll]

The problem with ECW? Their #1 heel never dropped the strap to Hardy, and never got a rematch, really. Their #2 heel just got shipped off to Raw for no reason. #3 is mired down in a go-nowhere feud with Tommy Dreamer. Miz and Morrison are too busy keeping the WWE's entire tag team division alive to feud with Hardy. I was just thinking of a scenario where someone under-utilized on Raw or Smackdown comes over and "punks" Hardy and calls him weak. Someone like *sighs* Elijah Burke would have been the perfect foil for Hardy. Instead, he's stuck with face Finlay and Mark Henry.