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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 3, 2009 1:04:34 GMT -5
Or just move both OK teams north. Have the South Just Texas (UT, TAMU, Baylor,Tech,TCU,Houston, and either UTEP, Rice or SMU ) What,no love for the North Texas Mean Green? No, not Really. I want Big 8 in the North and Southwest in the South.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 3, 2009 1:04:55 GMT -5
Hmm....good point. Very good point indeed. So TCU is in and Iowa State is out. So we'd still need two teams. One for the North and one for the South..... Hmm.....I'd say either Rice or Houston for the South and then pick a team from Oklahoma(like Tulsa) or a team from Kansas. Or just move both OK teams north. Have the South Just Texas (UT, TAMU, Baylor,Tech,TCU,Houston, and either UTEP, Rice or SMU ) We could, but in doing so will require a contract to be signed between OU and Texas allowing them to play each year, cause the scheduling rules make it so the only for sure games each year are those in division. Why do you think the OU/Nebraska rivalry that was huge before the BCS came around became sporadic so suddenly? I'm pretty sure that if they we allowed to, OU and Neb would play each year.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 3, 2009 1:10:50 GMT -5
Or just move both OK teams north. Have the South Just Texas (UT, TAMU, Baylor,Tech,TCU,Houston, and either UTEP, Rice or SMU ) We could, but in doing so will require a contract to be signed between OU and Texas allowing them to play each year, cause the scheduling rules make it so the only for sure games each year are those in division. Why do you think the OU/Nebraska rivalry that was huge before the BCS came around became sporadic so suddenly? I'm pretty sure that if they we allowed to, OU and Neb would play each year. I think they would allow it. While OU/Huskers is HUGE, Red River has allways been bigger. I think they would let it ride. It would also Cancel out one rotation block. IE, If OU UT allways play, since it would be an odd number in North/South. That way it will allways be a set game, so that leaves the other 12 teams for that weekend, or when they play Division game A.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 3, 2009 1:16:50 GMT -5
We could, but in doing so will require a contract to be signed between OU and Texas allowing them to play each year, cause the scheduling rules make it so the only for sure games each year are those in division. Why do you think the OU/Nebraska rivalry that was huge before the BCS came around became sporadic so suddenly? I'm pretty sure that if they we allowed to, OU and Neb would play each year. I think they would allow it. While OU/Huskers is HUGE, Red River has allways been bigger. I think they would let it ride. It would also Cancel out one rotation block. IE, If OU UT allways play, since it would be an odd number in North/South. That way it will allways be a set game, so that leaves the other 12 teams for that weekend, or when they play Division game A. True, true.
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 3, 2009 1:27:03 GMT -5
Well I mean, Colorado has sucked in many of the recent years, and Tulsa went almost undefeated. Granted they played bad teams most of the time, but let's see what they could do in the Big XII. Yeah, kick out Colorado, a school that has been part of the Big 8/12 since 1948 for snorking Tulsa. Brilliant. If sucking in many of the "recent years" is a criteria for booting a team out of a conference, what's Oklahoma State doing in the Big 12? Here is their record since 1996: 96: 5-6 97: 8-4 98: 5-6 99: 5-6 00: 3-8 01: 4-7 02: 8-5 03: 9-4 04: 7-5 05: 4-7 06: 7-6 07: 7-6 08: 9-4 Combined: 81-74 Here is Colorado's record over the same span: 96: 10-2 97: 5-6 98: 8-4 99: 7-5 00: 3-8 01: 10-3 02: 9-5 03: 5-7 04: 8-5 05: 7-6 06: 2-10 07: 6-7 08: 5-7 Combined: 85-75 If anything, Ok. State should get the hook before Colorado, although the idea of both leaving is absurd.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 3, 2009 1:35:45 GMT -5
Well I mean, Colorado has sucked in many of the recent years, and Tulsa went almost undefeated. Granted they played bad teams most of the time, but let's see what they could do in the Big XII. Yeah, kick out Colorado, a school that has been part of the Big 8/12 since 1948 for snorking Tulsa. Brilliant. Anything can happen man. You don't know what the commish would do. He can kick any school he wants to out of the conference and ask any non-BCS conference school he wants to join.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 3, 2009 1:37:22 GMT -5
Well I mean, Colorado has sucked in many of the recent years, and Tulsa went almost undefeated. Granted they played bad teams most of the time, but let's see what they could do in the Big XII. Yeah, kick out Colorado, a school that has been part of the Big 8/12 since 1948 for snorking Tulsa. Brilliant. If sucking in many of the "recent years" is a criteria for booting a team out of a conference, what's Oklahoma State doing in the Big 12? Here is their record since 1996: 96: 5-6 97: 8-4 98: 5-6 99: 5-6 00: 3-8 01: 4-7 02: 8-5 03: 9-4 04: 7-5 05: 4-7 06: 7-6 07: 7-6 08: 9-4 Combined: 81-74 Here is Colorado's record over the same span: 96: 10-2 97: 5-6 98: 8-4 99: 7-5 00: 3-8 01: 10-3 02: 9-5 03: 5-7 04: 8-5 05: 7-6 06: 2-10 07: 6-7 08: 5-7 Combined: 85-75 If anything, Ok. State should get the hook before Colorado, although the idea of both leaving is absurd. Also OK State is more popular and a bigger draw than Colorado is. Bedlam, despite being the most lopsided in state rivalry in college football gets some pretty huge draws. What does Colorado have that draws viewers? Not a damn thing.
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 3, 2009 1:39:08 GMT -5
Also OK State is more popular and a bigger draw than Colorado is. Bedlam, despite being the most lopsided in state rivalry in college football gets some pretty huge draws. What does Colorado have that draws viewers? Not a damn thing. Who gives a snork about that? This is about the mediocrity of teams being the criteria for booting a team out of a conference. The fact that a bunch of Okies attend the only real sport they have in large numbers isn't all that impressive. Not to mention, if we are talking about draws why the hell would Tulsa replace Colorado? When did Tulsa become any sort of a draw?
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 3, 2009 1:40:17 GMT -5
Anything can happen man. You don't know what the commish would do. He can kick any school he wants to out of the conference and ask any non-BCS conference school he wants to join. Yeah, anything can happen. Hell, they could kick Texas out and invite SMU into the Big 12. Of course, the idea of "anything can happen" doesn't always go against the idea of "reality."
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 3, 2009 1:44:44 GMT -5
Kansas State quarterback Josh Freeman has decided it is time to move on, and will enter the NFL draft in April. Feeman cited a change in the coaching staff and a high second round grade by the advisory commitee.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 3, 2009 1:45:40 GMT -5
Also OK State is more popular and a bigger draw than Colorado is. Bedlam, despite being the most lopsided in state rivalry in college football gets some pretty huge draws. What does Colorado have that draws viewers? Not a damn thing. Who gives a snork about that? This is about the mediocrity of teams being the criteria for booting a team out of a conference. The fact that a bunch of Okies attend the only real sport they have in large numbers isn't all that impressive. It isn't attendance I'm talking about. I'm talking about people watching at home. It is a game that is ALWAYS aired on national TV, and most of the time it is in the late afternoon or prime time slot. It is a big game nationally. Colorado doesn't have that. Yeah they have a whooping FOUR more wins than OK State. So what? OK State brings the Big XII more money than Colorado does. Thusly, those 4 measly wins are offset by the financial worth of the OK State program. Oh, and Colorado has one more loss than OSU. So the program isn't all that much more successful than OSU's. And even further, OK State is just going to continue to get better. Colorado, on the other hand is looking to continue on its slump for a while.
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Post by The Line on Jan 3, 2009 2:09:36 GMT -5
Even with marketability and whatnot, I seriously doubt the team that rests 16th on the NCAA all-time win list will be booted anytime soon. Even if they've had a couple of off years, they're still a bigger football school, and the Big XII would be stupid to even consider dropping them.
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Post by britishbulldog on Jan 3, 2009 2:44:51 GMT -5
Utah will never get into the pac 10. If the pac 10 was going to expand they would probably take BYU and Utah for their media outlet size and rivalry. Leaving Boise out. I would love to see Boise get into the mountain west along with some Fresno State. It would make it a very tough conferance and next time they do the automatic BS seeding, they probably would get an automatic bid over the Big East
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 3, 2009 11:35:38 GMT -5
It isn't attendance I'm talking about. I'm talking about people watching at home. It is a game that is ALWAYS aired on national TV, and most of the time it is in the late afternoon or prime time slot. It is a big game nationally. Colorado doesn't have that. Yeah they have a whooping FOUR more wins than OK State. So what? OK State brings the Big XII more money than Colorado does. Thusly, those 4 measly wins are offset by the financial worth of the OK State program. Oh, and Colorado has one more loss than OSU. So the program isn't all that much more successful than OSU's. And even further, OK State is just going to continue to get better. Colorado, on the other hand is looking to continue on its slump for a while. Colorado/Nebraska is ALWAYS aired on national TV as well. And most of the time it is aired in the late afternoon or primetime, depending on how good either of the teams are. The same goes with Ok/Ok State. I doubt that game was a big national game 4 years ago when Ok. State was a 4-7 team. And how do you know that Oklahoma State brings in so much more money than Colorado does? And how do you know that Oklahoma State is magically going to be so much better than Colorado for the next few years anyway? To kick a school that has been part of the conference since the late 1940's on a few guesses like that is supreme idiocy.
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 3, 2009 11:36:41 GMT -5
Even with marketability and whatnot, I seriously doubt the team that rests 16th on the NCAA all-time win list will be booted anytime soon. Even if they've had a couple of off years, they're still a bigger football school, and the Big XII would be stupid to even consider dropping them. Stupid is being kind. Especially for a hick school like Tulsa that nobody gives a flying f*** about.
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Post by Hanzo on Jan 3, 2009 11:38:37 GMT -5
Anyone else going to be watching Buffalo vs. Connecticut?
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 3, 2009 12:20:17 GMT -5
Anyone else going to be watching Buffalo vs. Connecticut? Im watching it right now.....I hope Buffalo wins (I know some fans of all the Buffalo teams who have had to deal with alot of heartbreak so I want them to get something).
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 3, 2009 12:23:12 GMT -5
Or just move both OK teams north. Have the South Just Texas (UT, TAMU, Baylor,Tech,TCU,Houston, and either UTEP, Rice or SMU ) We could, but in doing so will require a contract to be signed between OU and Texas allowing them to play each year, cause the scheduling rules make it so the only for sure games each year are those in division. Why do you think the OU/Nebraska rivalry that was huge before the BCS came around became sporadic so suddenly? I'm pretty sure that if they we allowed to, OU and Neb would play each year. Agreed....there would have to be an agreement there since its the Red River Rivalry (its kind of like Ohio State vs Michigan in its importance....except this one is always played on a neutral field) and it is part of the Texas State Fair.
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Post by Hanzo on Jan 3, 2009 13:13:16 GMT -5
Im watching it right now.....I hope Buffalo wins (I know some fans of all the Buffalo teams who have had to deal with alot of heartbreak so I want them to get something). I hope Buffalo wins too. Watching them play in the MAC Championship really won me over. Turner Gill seems like a great coach. From what I've read, he's really turned Buffalo's football program around. And gathering from what I've seen of them in this game and the MAC Championship, Buffalo is really good at causing and taking advantage of turnovers.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 3, 2009 14:00:56 GMT -5
Almost time for the new thread...
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