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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 15, 2008 17:47:59 GMT -5
I'm having too much fun in WWCF to incorporate EWT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 17:55:18 GMT -5
The majority's saying to let it die. Most of the people who worked to make it what it was want it dead. Even if it's revived, why should we have to bow our fed that we spent hours on to another fed? Well if it is going to die, it is just taking up space. The space for EWT could be used by this fed once it dies, and the only way to make things go smoothly is merger. What would you rather have? The Alexander the Great method of conquest(take over and merge cultures and ideas) or the Roman/British Empire method(just take over and allow the lands being invaded to have no say or keep their culture at all)? That analogy isn't even really correct, considering that as soon as Alexander of Macedon died, his successors all tried to take power from each other and ran a bunch of disparate states. The Romans and the Brits could at least keep their lands largely unified after a transfer of power. Moreover, you're saying IF we combine feds, those are the two possible branches. I'm saying we shouldn't combine the feds. In any case, you guys have your own website and a thread to promote and run your fed in. You don't need a whole board IMO, and honestly myself and many of the people who worked in EWT would prefer if we could at least keep our stuff archived with no merger--EWT has such a legacy to it, and to see it and all the work based upon it end up totally forgotten for another fed (instead of allowing us to just let it be) would be a bit inconsiderate towards the rest of us.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 15, 2008 17:59:09 GMT -5
Well if it is going to die, it is just taking up space. The space for EWT could be used by this fed once it dies, and the only way to make things go smoothly is merger. What would you rather have? The Alexander the Great method of conquest(take over and merge cultures and ideas) or the Roman/British Empire method(just take over and allow the lands being invaded to have no say or keep their culture at all)? That analogy isn't even really correct, considering that as soon as Alexander of Macedon died, his successors all tried to take power from each other and ran a bunch of disparate states. The Romans and the Brits could at least keep their lands largely unified after a transfer of power. Moreover, you're saying IF we combine feds, those are the two possible branches. I'm saying we shouldn't combine the feds. In any case, you guys have your own website and a thread to promote and run your fed in. You don't need a whole board IMO, and honestly myself and many of the people who worked in EWT would prefer if we could at least keep our stuff archived with no merger--EWT has such a legacy to it, and to see it and all the work based upon it end up totally forgotten for another fed (instead of allowing us to just let it be) would be a bit inconsiderate towards the rest of us. Well ECW had a great legacy, and so did WCW, but we all know how that went. Anyways it was just a suggestion.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 15, 2008 17:59:37 GMT -5
Here's my feeling.
Make an archive for ETW. Every thread is in there, so those who are new can see what you fellas did. And let us take the opened-up space. ETW has it's own Archive section, and we have the opened-up space. A win-win, if I do say so myself.
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Post by Square on Dec 15, 2008 18:00:05 GMT -5
...Why combine, just have 2 sub boards. Hell theres TNAWCF and WWEWCF as well as FPEL
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 18:00:48 GMT -5
That analogy isn't even really correct, considering that as soon as Alexander of Macedon died, his successors all tried to take power from each other and ran a bunch of disparate states. The Romans and the Brits could at least keep their lands largely unified after a transfer of power. Moreover, you're saying IF we combine feds, those are the two possible branches. I'm saying we shouldn't combine the feds. In any case, you guys have your own website and a thread to promote and run your fed in. You don't need a whole board IMO, and honestly myself and many of the people who worked in EWT would prefer if we could at least keep our stuff archived with no merger--EWT has such a legacy to it, and to see it and all the work based upon it end up totally forgotten for another fed (instead of allowing us to just let it be) would be a bit inconsiderate towards the rest of us. Well ECW had a great legacy, and so did WCW, but we all know how that went. Anyways it was just a suggestion. I understand you have positive intentions for it, and that's fine, but it's just that in this case ECW and WCW's roster have no interest in getting involved and doing the invasion. That's all.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 15, 2008 18:02:43 GMT -5
Did you read my post, Khali? Either way, it doesn't have to be an invasion (Sounds like there is not a whole lot of people left anyways).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 18:07:08 GMT -5
Did you read my post, Khali? Either way, it doesn't have to be an invasion (Sounds like there is not a whole lot of people left anyways). Indeed I did, and honestly I don't see anything that's really wrong with you guys getting a board should your fed ever get large enough. Though that would probably take both some time, as well as a staffer to run things.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 15, 2008 18:07:11 GMT -5
Eh, I'd only be up for an "Invasion" angle if there were enough EWTers to want to do it. I also don't think we need our own subforum unless the WWCF gets big enough to warrant so. That said, any EWTers who want to join our little group can feel more than free to.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 15, 2008 18:15:40 GMT -5
I actually PMed Toomiguci about doing an invasion angle about a month ago and he didn't want to do anything like that and I can understand why. I was wanting to try and help out EWT by doing it but I have changed my mind and think we should just let EWT come to a close on it's own.
Besides both feds work very very differently. An invasion wouldn't work very well because of that. I believe EWT results are all simulated and angle based while ours is all voting and democracy like politics. They have different characters and gimmicks while we take our own forum names and make gimmicks out of that. They just work too differently to do something like that so I think it is better to just keep them separate.
If Madison and the Mods wanted to give us our own board that is up to them. I am not going to beg for it. We manage fine with just one thread which is great because I never thought we would run so smoothly on just one thread. It would be nice to have a little room to do some stuff but I think we manage okay for now.
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Post by Supersmark is a Troll on Dec 15, 2008 18:17:50 GMT -5
I think we should unify the titles, if that is fine with him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 18:21:54 GMT -5
I think we should unify the titles, if that is fine with him. If I may retread my earlier statement, I would be very grateful if such a thing did not happen.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 15, 2008 18:22:56 GMT -5
I actually PMed Toomiguci about doing an invasion angle about a month ago and he didn't want to do anything like that and I can understand why. I was wanting to try and help out EWT by doing it but I have changed my mind and think we should just let EWT come to a close on it's own. Besides both feds work very very differently. An invasion wouldn't work very well because of that. I believe EWT results are all simulated and angle based while ours is all voting and democracy like politics. They have different characters and gimmicks while we take our own forum names and make gimmicks out of that. They just work too differently to do something like that so I think it is better to just keep them separate. If Madison and the Mods wanted to give us our own board that is up to them. I am not going to beg for it. We manage fine with just one thread which is great because I never thought we would run so smoothly on just one thread. It would be nice to have a little room to do some stuff but I think we manage okay for now. The results aren't simulated. The guys involved in the match all agree on a winner and then they either each type up a part of the match or just one person types the match up. That's one reason why EWT was so time consuming because to have a good match, you need to type up a huge lengthy...story basically.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 15, 2008 18:24:32 GMT -5
Did you read my post, Khali? Either way, it doesn't have to be an invasion (Sounds like there is not a whole lot of people left anyways). Indeed I did, and honestly I don't see anything that's really wrong with you guys getting a board should your fed ever get large enough. Though that would probably take both some time, as well as a staffer to run things. Our roster count is actually up to almost 30 members right now. I had no clue it would get this big in such little time. Also I'm the staffer your thinking of I guess. Also as the owner of WWCF I would gladly welcome anyone from the EWT if they wanted to join. We work a bit differently but it is a lot of fun and very laid back compared to most efeds.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 18:25:08 GMT -5
I actually PMed Toomiguci about doing an invasion angle about a month ago and he didn't want to do anything like that and I can understand why. I was wanting to try and help out EWT by doing it but I have changed my mind and think we should just let EWT come to a close on it's own. Besides both feds work very very differently. An invasion wouldn't work very well because of that. I believe EWT results are all simulated and angle based while ours is all voting and democracy like politics. They have different characters and gimmicks while we take our own forum names and make gimmicks out of that. They just work too differently to do something like that so I think it is better to just keep them separate. If Madison and the Mods wanted to give us our own board that is up to them. I am not going to beg for it. We manage fine with just one thread which is great because I never thought we would run so smoothly on just one thread. It would be nice to have a little room to do some stuff but I think we manage okay for now. The results aren't simulated. The guys involved in the match all agree on a winner and then they either each type up a part of the match or just one person types the match up. That's one reason why EWT was so time consuming because to have a good match, you need to type up a huge lengthy...story basically. Which to myself and most of the people involved was (and still is) very much worth it, and wasn't that long to write nor read.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 15, 2008 18:26:04 GMT -5
Also, we have the hardcore, main card, tag team, and mid card titles, but what about a lightweight/cruiserweight title?
I mean I'm lower mid-card right now, meaning I'm nowhere near a shot at any title outside of the hardcore belt, so I was thinking maybe create a belt for the low card/lighter guys to fight over. Though, that may not be such a good idea as I don't know how many guys listed their weight under 225...
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 15, 2008 18:27:25 GMT -5
I think we should unify the titles, if that is fine with him. If I may retread my earlier statement, I would be very grateful if such a thing did not happen. Yeah there won't be any unifying of titles or anything like that. If the guys in EWT want to keep going that is up to them. I was there for a little while but it was very time consuming and I never really got that into it although I thought it was ran very well and I liked reading the results of shows.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 18:27:44 GMT -5
Indeed I did, and honestly I don't see anything that's really wrong with you guys getting a board should your fed ever get large enough. Though that would probably take both some time, as well as a staffer to run things. Our roster count is actually up to almost 30 members right now. I had no clue it would get this big in such little time. Also I'm the staffer your thinking of I guess. Also as the owner of WWCF I would gladly welcome anyone from the EWT if they wanted to join. We work a bit differently but it is a lot of fun and very laid back compared to most efeds. I know you run the show here, but I was actually referring to a mod or former mod who's been around for a while and has an interest in E-Fedding. That way they don't have to make the consideration of putting someone relatively new into things and don't have to drastically change anything up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2008 18:28:37 GMT -5
Also, we have the hardcore, main card, tag team, and mid card titles, but what about a lightweight/cruiserweight title? I mean I'm lower mid-card right now, meaning I'm nowhere near a shot at any title outside of the hardcore belt, so I was thinking maybe create a belt for the low card/lighter guys to fight over. Though, that may not be such a good idea as I don't know how many guys listed their weight under 225... Honestly, I may be the only non-cruiserweight on the roster. I'll check a little later. If we have at least 8 cruiserweights, we should have a Cruiserweight title. It would also give a lot of people something to do, as we really only have two or three storylines right now.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 15, 2008 18:30:31 GMT -5
BTW Niteraw will be up later tonight. This was my last day of the semester so it won't be up till later. I still need to put the show together and all and write a summary for the main event real quick.
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