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Post by Krimzon on Jan 21, 2009 14:54:56 GMT -5
I've never thought Cena was on roids. He's been in that kind of shape since he debuted. He doesn't have to prove anything to me. Now Batista on the other hand...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 14:56:56 GMT -5
No, but when over half the damn roster was on something at some point it becomes a legit question. Why should Cena get a free pass? Everyone on the roster gets tested or, so we are told, so everyone, by that logic, is capable of being on them. Wrestlers are human beings; they make mistakes. Being on steroids or other chemical enhancers doesn't make them worse than other people.
Jim Ross had a drinking problem; Kurt Angle had a pain killer problem; Bret Hart and Ric Flair both admitted to doing steroids; it doesn't matter who you are, you are privy to the same temptations as anyone else in the business. No one should be exempt from speculation if said speculation helps to keep them healthy and the business a better place.
Personally, I don't know if he's on them or not. Only a select few people would truly know for sure. I hope he's not and, until he's tested positive, I will believe that he isn't. He did them or didn't do them, he will do them or he won't do them, he'll continue or stop: until that information is released, nobody knows.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 21, 2009 18:27:41 GMT -5
...with test results in hand to prove he doesn't take steroids? In the thread about Batista winning the Rumble, someone mentioned that Cena, in addition to training (etc...), used steroids to help recover from his torn pec last year. Dr's prescribe Steroids in order for people to heal quicker from muscle tear injuries. That's the truth and that's why a LOT of wrestlers look huge upon return It's not that they are testing for steroids or pain killers, they are testing for overruse. If you don't have a legit prescription for those meds, then that's fine and dandy. I'm thinking a lot of guys use stuff like testim (which you rub into your skin) which gives you more testosterone, and more stuff that's oral than injectable. Which is actually legal. HGH is also legal as long as you have a prescription. Seriously people need to understand that part, all these performance enhancing drugs can be attained legally.
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Post by Mantaurded on Jan 21, 2009 18:33:54 GMT -5
I still hate CNN for pulling that "Rock Bottom" stunt on him. Sweet can, sw-sw-sweet can... CNN got owned that day. That's ridiculous. Poor guy.
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Post by Al Wilson Lives: Thread Killer on Jan 21, 2009 19:57:45 GMT -5
If Cena came over to my house we'd play some hacky sack for a little while then a few rounds of ping pong before we made some waffles and played risk. What's this thread about? I didn't read past the subject.
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Post by Robbymac on Jan 21, 2009 20:20:21 GMT -5
...with test results in hand to prove he doesn't take steroids? In the thread about Batista winning the Rumble, someone mentioned that Cena, in addition to training (etc...), used steroids to help recover from his torn pec last year. Dr's prescribe Steroids in order for people to heal quicker from muscle tear injuries. That's the truth and that's why a LOT of wrestlers look huge upon return It's not that they are testing for steroids or pain killers, they are testing for overruse. If you don't have a legit prescription for those meds, then that's fine and dandy. I'm thinking a lot of guys use stuff like testim (which you rub into your skin) which gives you more testosterone, and more stuff that's oral than injectable. Which is actually legal. HGH is also legal as long as you have a prescription. Seriously people need to understand that part, all these performance enhancing drugs can be attained legally. And that legally obtained, performance enhancing drugs, used as they are intended, are just fine. People get blinded by the steroids=bad thing in sports. But they fail to realize that drugs that help your performance don't matter in wrestling because its not a real competition. If they are using in excess, or are obtaining them illegally, they should be punished. If they are however using them as they are intended, no harm no foul.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 21, 2009 23:55:36 GMT -5
Seriosly you can tell who overuses and what they do.
You can argue if they are abusing, but somebody can be using just the right amount, with the right amount of diet, exercise, and supplements.
If they obtain things like testim, HGH, or oral steroids and used them the way they are meant to be used and not in excess then there's nothing really wrong with that.
I'm sure if Tyler Black could afford the same kinds of stuff that Brutus Beefcake can (that man looks great for his age), he'd be going to the doctor to get it.
Seriously all it takes is one visit to a bodybuilding forum, ask them how to get big, or what are the right kinds of things to get bigger and a visit to the doctor's can be basically a shopping trip as they don't need much convincing. You feel lazy, slow, and have erectile dysfunction, these are all symptoms of not producing enough testosterone
They will prescribe testosterone, steroids, HGH etc.. and that's how these guys can get these drugs.
Some guys are just better in cycling on and off, being a wrestler muscle tears, dislocated joints, anything and everything they can have it prescribed to them.
I also don't believe that CM Punk hasn't ever taken antibiotics or anti-inflammatory drugs.
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Post by dh03grad on Jan 22, 2009 0:11:27 GMT -5
World Wrestling Entertainment allows their wrestlers to use steroids. So it really doesnt matter what I think.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 22, 2009 0:26:11 GMT -5
World Wrestling Entertainment allows their wrestlers to use steroids. So it really doesnt matter what I think. The guys who got suspended for wellness must be quaking because nowadays if you're not a main eventer or in good with management you become even more marginal
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Post by lookout on Jan 22, 2009 0:39:31 GMT -5
...with test results in hand to prove he doesn't take steroids? In the thread about Batista winning the Rumble, someone mentioned that Cena, in addition to training (etc...), used steroids to help recover from his torn pec last year. If there are three guys in WWE I believe when they say they don't take steroids it's Cena, Punk and Mark Henry. When the Wellness Tests started you had all these guys all of a sudden look smaller, but Cena stayed pretty much the same. It took Brock Lesnar and Bob Lashley to get into MMA and be tested by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for us to believe they are not on it. So is that what we're waiting for Cena to do? Dude...brock lesnar was/is WAY WAY smaller now and when he went into mma than when he was in the wwe. I mean the before and after pictures are pretty amazing...as in amazingly different. He was obviously on steroids in the wwe.
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Post by spikeshotfirst on Jan 22, 2009 1:39:57 GMT -5
People on the internet seem to have this sacred virgin mindset when it comes to wrestlers on steroids, in that wrestlers not on roids or never taken roids = good, clean, pure, while wrestlers on roids or have a past history = bad, unclean, filthy.
Just from what I have observed.
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Post by TromboneMan on Jan 22, 2009 1:51:36 GMT -5
World Wrestling Entertainment allows their wrestlers to use steroids. So it really doesnt matter what I think. Chris Masters would like a word with you.
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Post by default on Jan 22, 2009 2:02:09 GMT -5
I don't think Cena's on "the gas" anymore.
But I wouldn't be surprised if he was at some point before the Wellness Policy came about. A guy I e-fedded with, who does a lot of weight lifting and stuff for MMA said that when it comes to building up your arms, you're pretty much screwed at your wrists and he althoughs thought it was odd that Cena was CONSTANTLY wearing wristbands. Granted, it did fit the gimmick.
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Post by wwerules60 on Jan 22, 2009 2:15:33 GMT -5
...with test results in hand to prove he doesn't take steroids? In the thread about Batista winning the Rumble, someone mentioned that Cena, in addition to training (etc...), used steroids to help recover from his torn pec last year. If there are three guys in WWE I believe when they say they don't take steroids it's Cena, Punk and Mark Henry. When the Wellness Tests started you had all these guys all of a sudden look smaller, but Cena stayed pretty much the same. It took Brock Lesnar and Bob Lashley to get into MMA and be tested by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for us to believe they are not on it. So is that what we're waiting for Cena to do? Dude...brock lesnar was/is WAY WAY smaller now and when he went into mma than when he was in the wwe. I mean the before and after pictures are pretty amazing...as in amazingly different. He was obviously on steroids in the wwe. Not say whether Brock did or didn't use them in the WWE. But you do realize that he has to cut weight to fight there right? He can't just be as big as possible because he would come in over weight.
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Post by corndog on Jan 22, 2009 2:46:50 GMT -5
It is pretty sad how CNN edited Cena's interview, but let's face the facts they were trying to destroy the whole business after the Benoit incident. However, I do find it hard to believe that Cena has never used, whether he still does or not. Atleast Savage admitted in an interview with Arsenio Hall in 1992 he admitted to using at one time, but quitting because he didn't like the side effects. It made him look more genuine and human, but then again Vince did demote him after that interview. Also look at the NWA's top stars in the mid 80s and look at the WWF's(whom several admitting to using at the time), they were much larger. The average main eventer on World Championship Wrestling was 230 pounds, while in the WWF at the time it was closer to 250/260. Vince encouraged steriod use through out the 80s and awarded superstars that did so, look at Savage's growth from 86-89, he gained atleast 30 pounds of muscle, and HHH's growth from 97-00. HGH is still untestable, and I believe many WWE superstars still use it. But why is the WWE any worse than MLB and the NFL, where use is just as well spread? Atleast in the WWE they aren't breaking legitimate records of players who didn't use and worked very hard to make their acheivements.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jan 22, 2009 8:38:03 GMT -5
It is pretty sad how CNN edited Cena's interview, but let's face the facts they were trying to destroy the whole business after the Benoit incident. Actually, they've pulled this crap before. And that had nothing to do with steroids, it was an interview with Mick Foley about backyard wrestling. They seem to have a grudge against wrestling for some reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2009 14:41:51 GMT -5
Seriosly you can tell who overuses and what they do. You can argue if they are abusing, but somebody can be using just the right amount, with the right amount of diet, exercise, and supplements. If they obtain things like testim, HGH, or oral steroids and used them the way they are meant to be used and not in excess then there's nothing really wrong with that. I'm sure if Tyler Black could afford the same kinds of stuff that Brutus Beefcake can (that man looks great for his age), he'd be going to the doctor to get it. Seriously all it takes is one visit to a bodybuilding forum, ask them how to get big, or what are the right kinds of things to get bigger and a visit to the doctor's can be basically a shopping trip as they don't need much convincing. You feel lazy, slow, and have erectile dysfunction, these are all symptoms of not producing enough testosterone They will prescribe testosterone, steroids, HGH etc.. and that's how these guys can get these drugs. Some guys are just better in cycling on and off, being a wrestler muscle tears, dislocated joints, anything and everything they can have it prescribed to them. I also don't believe that CM Punk hasn't ever taken antibiotics or anti-inflammatory drugs. Probably has. I don't think he's a hardline straightedge guy. If he gets a headache he probably takes an aspirin. To most the whole "straightedge" thing simply means not drinking or drugging for recreational or unhealthy purposes, it's just a lifestyle choice that means they aren't getting drunk, smoking pot, snorting coke etc. Taking what most people would call "medicine" to heal an ailment doesn't really fit into that. I know there are some hardline guys that follow it to the letter and won't even do things like drink cola since it has caffeine in it. He's not one of those guys though.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Jan 22, 2009 16:12:24 GMT -5
It is pretty sad how CNN edited Cena's interview, but let's face the facts they were trying to destroy the whole business after the Benoit incident. Actually, they've pulled this crap before. And that had nothing to do with steroids, it was an interview with Mick Foley about backyard wrestling. They seem to have a grudge against wrestling for some reason. Or maybe just the WWF... Remember who used to own CNN...
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Post by SAJ Forth on Jan 22, 2009 17:52:31 GMT -5
If Cena showed up to my house, I'd ask if he's Spoilen' For A Fight.
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Post by Hanz Moleman on Jan 22, 2009 18:28:08 GMT -5
I think steroids should be allowed for the healing process but I really think natural ability needs to come back into the picture.I trust Batista is not on the roids, and I have no idea why. But headliners like him and Cena just strike me as knowing better. Bah, this whole subject makes me a bit frustrated. Im gonna go split someones wig...
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