Kizarny Already Finished?

[vanboxmeer]

With him not being on last week's Smackdown at all in any form of match, vignette, or segment as well as these tapings (so far). Over/Under on his future endeavors is 3 months.

He came in out of shape from his previous days as well as having the worst looking punches I've ever seen since RVD. Not to mention having him debut as a face with his crowd displeasing moveset as well as not encorporating his gimmick to make him different.

I'm thinking the company already looks at him like Ricky Ortiz(who hasn't been seen in weeks since his only interesting segment with the dickish, babyface rear in a tophat,CM Punk) as, "guys who just didn't work".

[Andrew is Good]

I hope not. I really love the gimmick, I hope they keep going with it a little longer.

[Dave at the Movies]

I think Ortiz might have been moved back down to FCW.......i'm not sure but he and Dolph Ziggler still wrestle there about every week or two.

Also technically I don't think Kizarny is done yet. With HHH hogging the show last week we didn't see a lot of guys. lol

[greeby]

Jan 13, 2009 22:47:49 GMT -5 vanboxmeer said:

With him not being on last week's Smackdown at all in any form of match, vignette, or segment as well as these tapings (so far). Over/Under on his future endeavors is 3 months.

He came in out of shape from his previous days as well as having the worst looking punches I've ever seen since RVD. Not to mention having him debut as a face with his crowd displeasing moveset as well as not encorporating his gimmick to make him different.

I'm thinking the company already looks at him like Ricky Ortiz(who hasn't been seen in weeks since his only interesting segment with the dickish, babyface rear in a tophat,CM Punk) as, "guys who just didn't work".

As it was a double-taping, his non-appearance didn't mean much as only Hunter and a couple of others wrestle more than once at these tapings

[EJS]

Jan 13, 2009 22:50:02 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

I think Ortiz might have been moved back down to FCW.......i'm not sure but he and Dolph Ziggler still wrestle there about every week or two.

Also technically I don't think Kizarny is done yet. With HHH hogging the show last week we didn't see a lot of guys. lol

Ortiz was on ECW tonight.

[derrtaysouth95]

Jan 13, 2009 22:54:41 GMT -5 EJS said:

Jan 13, 2009 22:50:02 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

I think Ortiz might have been moved back down to FCW.......i'm not sure but he and Dolph Ziggler still wrestle there about every week or two.

Also technically I don't think Kizarny is done yet. With HHH hogging the show last week we didn't see a lot of guys. lol

Ortiz was on ECW tonight.

In a segment involing Teddy's assistant (Tiffany?) and Hornswoggle with Finlay chasing him. That's hardly called good use of talent.

As for Kizarny, I missed his SD! debut match. But from what I've seen of the vignettes promoting his debut and seeing pics and a few of his matches....I hated his look coming in (that ink is HORRID) and wasn't impressed with his in-ring work either. He wasn't great in TNA either.

[H-Fist]

For what it's worth, Kizarny is not listed on the Smackdown Superstars page at WWE.com.

Looks like he's been dropped down the ol' memory hole.

[Jake, The Jake, Jake]

...HE HAD ONE f***ING MATCH!

How come we can all decide someone sucks that early? What are we, Creative?

[Dave at the Movies]

Jan 13, 2009 23:17:01 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

Jan 13, 2009 22:54:41 GMT -5 EJS said:

Ortiz was on ECW tonight.

In a segment involing Teddy's assistant (Tiffany?) and Hornswoggle with Finlay chasing him. That's hardly called good use of talent.

As for Kizarny, I missed his SD! debut match. But from what I've seen of the vignettes promoting his debut and seeing pics and a few of his matches....I hated his look coming in (that ink is HORRID) and wasn't impressed with his in-ring work either. He wasn't great in TNA either.

He wasn't in TNA for very long was he? I know it was during the Wedensday PPV Era. I thought it was mostly Brian Lee playing Sin in the New Church.

[mcmahonfan85]

Jan 13, 2009 23:17:01 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

As for Kizarny, I missed his SD! debut match. But from what I've seen of the vignettes promoting his debut and seeing pics and a few of his matches....I hated his look coming in (that ink is HORRID) and wasn't impressed with his in-ring work either. He wasn't great in TNA either.

during the vignettes where you impressed by his ability to stand there and watch while someone else swallowed swords or hung weights from their ears?

[Slingshot Suplay]

his first match was very sloppy. i was looking foward to it, but then i fell asleep during it. his finisher looked very weak, as well.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

Jan 14, 2009 1:06:54 GMT -5 Dave at the Movies said:

Jan 13, 2009 23:17:01 GMT -5 @derrtaysouth95 said:

In a segment involing Teddy's assistant (Tiffany?) and Hornswoggle with Finlay chasing him. That's hardly called good use of talent.

As for Kizarny, I missed his SD! debut match. But from what I've seen of the vignettes promoting his debut and seeing pics and a few of his matches....I hated his look coming in (that ink is HORRID) and wasn't impressed with his in-ring work either. He wasn't great in TNA either.

He wasn't in TNA for very long was he? I know it was during the Wedensday PPV Era. I thought it was mostly Brian Lee playing Sin in the New Church.

No, it was always Nick Sinn. And the gimick ruled. I don't know why they saddled him with "Kizarny". Hopefully, he manages to make it work.

[Jay Carroll]

Jan 14, 2009 1:32:41 GMT -5 Slingshot Suplay said:

his first match was very sloppy. i was looking foward to it, but then i fell asleep during it. his finisher looked very weak, as well.

Since when do debuting wrestlers have strong finishers? It had a flow to it and looked flashy. It might even help get him over.

[Slingshot Suplay]

Jan 14, 2009 1:48:08 GMT -5 Jay Carroll said:

Jan 14, 2009 1:32:41 GMT -5 Slingshot Suplay said:

his first match was very sloppy. i was looking foward to it, but then i fell asleep during it. his finisher looked very weak, as well.

Since when do debuting wrestlers have strong finishers? It had a flow to it and looked flashy. It might even help get him over.

Brock Lesnar & Goldberg had strong finishers when they debuted, but a finisher should be executed well. Kizarny's finisher didn't impress anyone in the crowd and the announcers tried so hard to put it over on TV. it wasn't fluid or flashy, or well-executed.

[Hanzo]

I just looked this guy up on YouTube and I can only say...



WTF?!!?

[Janitor From Mars]

Kizarny's photo reminded me of Lenny Lane.

BRING BACK LENNY LANE!

[forgottensinpwf]

Jan 14, 2009 5:39:52 GMT -5 Janitor From Mars said:

Kizarny's photo reminded me of Lenny Lane.

BRING BACK LENNY LANE!

Didn't Lenny work a dark match a while back?

[Mozenrath]

Jan 14, 2009 1:48:08 GMT -5 Jay Carroll said:

Jan 14, 2009 1:32:41 GMT -5 Slingshot Suplay said:

his first match was very sloppy. i was looking foward to it, but then i fell asleep during it. his finisher looked very weak, as well.

Since when do debuting wrestlers have strong finishers? It had a flow to it and looked flashy. It might even help get him over.

I agree. It was just a poorly booked first match.

You either need to have them do a squash or do a "Almost-But-Not-Quite" with a big star, like John Cena's debut against Kurt Angle. Going 50-50 with MVP was confusing.

[Hiroshi Hase]

I wouldn't be saddened if he went back to FCW, if all his matches are like that, I don't need to see any more of him. IMO he was awful.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 14, 2009 6:46:30 GMT -5 Hiroshi Hase said:

I wouldn't be saddened if he went back to FCW, if all his matches are like that, I don't need to see any more of him. IMO he was awful.

His work I've seen with Goldman/Cabana was a lot better, and it wasn't just Colt carrying him.