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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Apr 24, 2009 10:21:13 GMT -5
Like many others I applaud you for sticking by your lifestyle choice in spite of what others may think. Personally, I do drink socially, pretty much every weekend and I enjoy it. I have a friend who comes out with us and doesn't drink (something I couldn't do, I'd hate to be around me or my friends sober when they're drunk) and I've never questioned it.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Apr 24, 2009 10:23:00 GMT -5
I hope everyone in here claiming to be straight edge has some personal connection with hardcore punk, because that was ALWAYS part of the deal. It's not just about being sober.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 10:25:41 GMT -5
Although I don't drink or smoke anymore, I hate the straight edge label because of the posers and the purists that come with it. I'm just a guy who doesn't drink, it's simply a personal choice, not 'who I am'.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 24, 2009 10:43:49 GMT -5
I hope everyone in here claiming to be straight edge has some personal connection with hardcore punk, because that was ALWAYS part of the deal. It's not just about being sober. That's another reason I don't adopt the straight edge label. I never really cared for that subgenre.
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Post by MAGGLE on Apr 24, 2009 11:00:03 GMT -5
I drink everyday which is not healthy.
Actually I have a Beer in my hand at the moment.
There is nothing wrong with drinking a beer after a hard day, but dont drink too hard things.
I once drank a whole Absolut Vodka Bottle at once and I woke up in the Hospital with Alcohol Posining
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Post by FrankGotch on Apr 24, 2009 11:06:24 GMT -5
I drink everyday which is not healthy. Actually I have a Beer in my hand at the moment. There is nothing wrong with drinking a beer after a hard day, but dont drink too hard things. I once drank a whole Absolut Vodka Bottle at once and I woke up in the Hospital with Alcohol Posining Actually drinking every day can be a vital part of a healthy life style. Making beer or red wine a daily part of your evening can help to greatly reduce your risk of heart disease. The catch is that healthy drinking should be limited to about 16-20 oz of beer or red wine a night. Most doctors recommend about 8oz.
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Post by biafra on Apr 24, 2009 11:33:33 GMT -5
I hope everyone in here claiming to be straight edge has some personal connection with hardcore punk, because that was ALWAYS part of the deal. It's not just about being sober. According to the guy who coined the term "straightedge" wasn't supposed to be a movement, period; so I don't know or particularly care for these people who keep sticking new criteria or taking old ones out. I find it rather silly to have all these rules of conformity in order to fit into a grouping that was originally intended as an embracement of non conformity. Honestly..if people are not being true to themselves in order to fit into some "sXe clique" they are missing the point as much as those who don;t want to drink but do so to fit in.
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Post by hollywood on Apr 24, 2009 11:44:24 GMT -5
I get easily annoyed with people who seem to lash out in some way at anyone who doesn't quite fit their idea of how life "should be" or whatever.
I got really close to kicking the crap out of some people at a Halloween party for making fun of my 30-year-old friend because he was still a virgin and waiting until he was married. He was as low-key about the whole thing as possible, and the only reason it came up was because someone asked him point blank. He finally just walked outside, and they still wouldn't drop it, I told everyone in the room, "It's really none of your damn business!"
The irony here is...he got married just last weekend. Which means he's probably had sex more times in the last week than I have in the last 8 years...
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Post by mrrotten on Apr 24, 2009 17:29:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I rarely have anything to drink, and I always find it funny when people get on my case of not drinking much, like a coworker tells me "It won't kill me to have a drink." My respond "It won't kill you if I don't". Then another person told me "You won't go to hell if you have something to drink" (It's a relative, and we have another relative that is against drinking for the fear of alcoholism that runs on the one side of the family), and my response to that is "You wont go either if I don't".
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Apr 24, 2009 19:27:29 GMT -5
One of my college professors has a great way to get people to stop asking him to drink alcohol at parties. Whenever someone asks him to drink a beer or Scotch or something, he says, "Fine, but I'm going to end up taking your wife (or girlfriend) home with me."
You see, my professor use to be an alcoholic. And, when he drank, he had these "episodes." By "episodes" I mean...he would hit on women regardless of whether they were dating someone or were married, and I imagine he had sex with a few of these women. I'm not 100% sure about that; he didn't come out and say he did this. He just said that he was successful with the ladies when drunk, and when he said that he had these "episodes," my imagination probably went wild. However, I'm sure he was successful.
So, basically he's warning these guys that if he drinks, there's a good chance he's gonna hit on their woman and ruin their relationship. And, since most guys insecure, they stop asking him to drink.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Apr 24, 2009 19:53:53 GMT -5
I hope everyone in here claiming to be straight edge has some personal connection with hardcore punk, because that was ALWAYS part of the deal. It's not just about being sober. According to the guy who coined the term "straightedge" wasn't supposed to be a movement, period; so I don't know or particularly care for these people who keep sticking new criteria or taking old ones out. I find it rather silly to have all these rules of conformity in order to fit into a grouping that was originally intended as an embracement of non conformity. Honestly..if people are not being true to themselves in order to fit into some "sXe clique" they are missing the point as much as those who don;t want to drink but do so to fit in. You're right, Ian Mackaye was so passionate about NOT starting a movement that he rewrote 'Out Of Step' to feature the lyrics 'this is not a set of rules.' But you're the one who labelled yourself as 'sXe' earlier in the thread. And the original sXe grew up from people putting the crosses on their hands to get into hardcore shows so that they wouldn't get served. It was a hardcore ethic.
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Post by Maidpool w/ Cleaning Action on Apr 24, 2009 20:00:15 GMT -5
I'm the kind of guy who has what is typically called a "straightedge" lifestyle..I'm 31 and I've never smoked, did drugs, had alcohol etc...and whenever it comes out that I've never had alcohol,altogether WAY too many people think they have to grill me on my reasoning and talk about why I should. Some actually seem annoyed and I've had one actually get pissed. The thing is I don't advertise my lifestyle...the only time someone will even know I don't drink is if they straight up ask me, (Usually..what do you drink? You don't drink?! Have you ever had a drink?!!! NEVER!!??), and I have no issues with those who do any of the things I choose not to. My own fiancee drinks on occasion and it's just not a big deal. I could understand if I were one of the arrogant, pushy straightedge kids...or just some moralizing asshole involving himself in other peoples business..but since I don't do those things I don't see why people give a excretory matter. I mean honestly...someone telling me I should do what I damn well don't want to (or even asking continued questions why I don't) is as annoying to me as the before mentioned sXe kid or moralizing prick bothering a drinker about their choice. Can a brother just not drink? In peace? Geez. While I have had alchohol in my life, I get people act the same towards me for not making a habit of drinking.
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Post by biafra on Apr 24, 2009 20:57:29 GMT -5
According to the guy who coined the term "straightedge" wasn't supposed to be a movement, period; so I don't know or particularly care for these people who keep sticking new criteria or taking old ones out. I find it rather silly to have all these rules of conformity in order to fit into a grouping that was originally intended as an embracement of non conformity. Honestly..if people are not being true to themselves in order to fit into some "sXe clique" they are missing the point as much as those who don;t want to drink but do so to fit in. But you're the one who labelled yourself as 'sXe' earlier in the thread. No I didn't. I said I have what is typically called a straightedge lifestyle; I didn't label myself that and went on to list reasons why I think SxE can be just as much a catalyst against non conformity as the pro alcohol stance. As far sXe itself it's like any other social grouping; if people join of their own free will with like minded people to expand their social lives then great. If they try to live up to the standard (which apparently evolves all the time) and/or try to use it to bludgeon folks who don't want that lifestyle then it's bad.
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Post by rchi84 on Apr 25, 2009 3:32:33 GMT -5
well, it can get really tough. i'm 25, a teetotaler, never done drugs, am vegan, a pacifist, dont smoke and a virgin.
recipe for disaster i know. it gets really awkward when you meet up with old college/school friends who've "cultivated their social drinking" habits and inevitably want to meet up at a bar. esp when the guys start swapping tales of their "totally smashed" tales and you are sitting on the table unable to add anything..
just hang onto it if you really believe in it man. like a song goes, giving up something is much harder than trying something, but that makes it all the more worthwhile..
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Apr 25, 2009 6:35:37 GMT -5
Think explaining not drinking's tough, huh? I'm almost 30 and have never in my life had any sort of desire to drive a car. No one understands that one.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Apr 25, 2009 6:43:14 GMT -5
I'm the kind of guy who has what is typically called a "straightedge" lifestyle..I'm 31 and I've never smoked, did drugs, had alcohol etc...and whenever it comes out that I've never had alcohol,altogether WAY too many people think they have to grill me on my reasoning and talk about why I should. Some actually seem annoyed and I've had one actually get pissed. The thing is I don't advertise my lifestyle...the only time someone will even know I don't drink is if they straight up ask me, (Usually..what do you drink? You don't drink?! Have you ever had a drink?!!! NEVER!!??), and I have no issues with those who do any of the things I choose not to. My own fiancee drinks on occasion and it's just not a big deal. I could understand if I were one of the arrogant, pushy straightedge kids...or just some moralizing asshole involving himself in other peoples business..but since I don't do those things I don't see why people give a excretory matter. I mean honestly...someone telling me I should do what I damn well don't want to (or even asking continued questions why I don't) is as annoying to me as the before mentioned sXe kid or moralizing prick bothering a drinker about their choice. Can a brother just not drink? In peace? Geez. I can relate. I never drank, smoke or did any drugs at all. People look at me and are shocked that I never did anything. Honestly, It doesn't appeal to me, but I think it's also a protection for other people too, because I tend to speak my mind and I don't know how I'd act under any influence.
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Post by thesam07 on Apr 25, 2009 7:15:21 GMT -5
I went to the dietician a couple of weeks ago. I live in a rather small, country town. You know, the kindof place that where the only thing to do is wear a cowboy hat and drink or drive a ute and drink. So I met up with the dietician and we were going through a laundry list of things I eat and don't eat. And the following conversation takes place; Dietician - "Do you drink alchohol?" Me - No. Dietician - ....really? Me - Yes. Dietician - .....why? Me - Just because. Dietician - Oh, well, that's good!....and you've grown up in (insert town here) your whole life or did you move here? Me - Lived here my whole life. Dietician - .......and you don't drink? Me - Yes. It just seemed funny to me that my dietician could not believe that someone who has grown up in the country does not drink.
Oh, and last week I went clubbing with some friends. And afterwards we went to get Kebabs and on the way there the following conversation takes place; Me - I might drive back home. Friends friend - But you've been drinking! Me - I don't drink. Friends Friend - Really? Me - Yes. Friends friend - Why? Me - It's cheaper. Friends friend - Pfft, you call that living? Me - ...
So yeah, I can understand where your coming from Biafra.
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Post by mrrotten on Apr 25, 2009 16:33:35 GMT -5
Think explaining not drinking's tough, huh? I'm almost 30 and have never in my life had any sort of desire to drive a car. No one understands that one. I can understand you. I didn't get my license til I was 18, and there's times when I don't want to drive at all. (It's a good part of the time too). People use to get on my case of "Why don't you want to get your license".
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