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Post by Ash Whenzday on Jul 3, 2005 21:34:56 GMT -5
So, it's kinda like Holly=Tony Rockyhorra. and Lesnar=Marcellus Wallace, and Sandbagging=Giving Uma Thurman a foot massage. And AphexTheUnholy=Watches Pulp Fiction too much.
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Post by caseygottheblues on Jul 3, 2005 21:38:55 GMT -5
So the opinion is that Holly deserved it, I see.... He "deserved it" because he didn't do what he was supposed to do to protect himself. I don't think Holly has ever done anything that deserves him getting his neck broken, but you can't sandbag someone and then not expect that theres a chance you will get hurt. And its more than him not jumping with it. Once the person has you up, you are supposed to pull yourself into position, kinda like trying to do a sit-up in mid air. Believe me, the powerbomb is a difficult manuever to pull off, especially when someone was as green as Lesnar was at the time. Come on though Lesnar was never all that green...
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Post by laserblade on Jul 3, 2005 21:39:50 GMT -5
Holly has the look the moves and the hardcore attirtude to be in the main event. He's just held down because of his stupidass hardcore gimmick. the name hardcore=bad wrestling nowadays. He needs to just be called Bob Holly and given some promo time to be world champ
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Jul 3, 2005 21:50:31 GMT -5
Come on though Lesnar was never all that green... You're right, especially compared to many rookies coming in. But still, this was soon after he debuted and was still adjusting to the big-time. He was smart enough not to drive him down with full force, but not aware enough to try something else to protect Holly. Its more about his lack of experience than lack of skill.
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Post by admiralcrunchy™ on Jul 3, 2005 21:55:26 GMT -5
Actually...if you recall "Mia" tells Vincent that the only thing that he touched was her "hand at her wedding, nobody knows why Marcellus threw him through the window other than him and Marcellus".....sorry....know you're talking to someone whos seen that movie too many times....only other person who has me beat is Jackrabbit Slim...and I think you know why...
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Post by caseygottheblues on Jul 3, 2005 21:59:17 GMT -5
Come on though Lesnar was never all that green... You're right, especially compared to many rookies coming in. But still, this was soon after he debuted and was still adjusting to the big-time. He was smart enough not to drive him down with full force, but not aware enough to try something else to protect Holly. Its more about his lack of experience than lack of skill. Agreed
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Post by amsiraK on Jul 3, 2005 22:02:30 GMT -5
Y'know... you'd think that someone about to be driven head-down toward the canvas would be a little more concerned with not getting his neck broken than with whatever Bob thought he needed to dead-ass Lesnar for. I'm not a huge Lesnar fan, but it's clear that Holly was being a jag-off.
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Post by admiralcrunchy™ on Jul 3, 2005 22:14:37 GMT -5
Yet Holly still gets huge pops whenever he comes out..
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Post by laserblade on Jul 3, 2005 22:16:43 GMT -5
Lesnar should be champ but he needs something JBL like to do it (Complete gimmick change)
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Post by jevman on Jul 3, 2005 23:03:38 GMT -5
Lesnar should be champ but he needs something JBL like to do it (Complete gimmick change) IMO if Lesnar really wants to be champ he should rejoin the WWE....
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Post by laserblade on Jul 3, 2005 23:05:53 GMT -5
I meant Holly
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Post by hbkismyherostill on Jul 3, 2005 23:16:47 GMT -5
I see a red x
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Post by crazyrose on Jul 3, 2005 23:23:23 GMT -5
I don't see any mistake there, that was perfectly executed Ganso bomb [/strong stlye mark]
what was Holly thinking? I suppose he forgot how strong Brock is and didn't think he could pull him up without Holly pulling his head up quickly
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Post by caseygottheblues on Jul 4, 2005 0:49:32 GMT -5
I don't see any mistake there, that was perfectly executed Ganso bomb [/strong stlye mark] what was Holly thinking? I suppose he forgot how strong Brock is and didn't think he could pull him up without Holly pulling his head up quickly[/quote] Holly did it intentionally so he didn't have to work as many dates....Just kidding, or maybe I am not
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Post by Mark4HBK on Jul 4, 2005 11:05:27 GMT -5
Holly was sandbaging Brock ... it wasn't Brock's fault it was Baldcore's[/quote] Holly went into business for himself with the sole intention of making Lesnar look weak, and he paid a high price for it. When Regal worked this way with Goldberg, he got fired for it. (In a way, maybe it's a good thing Holly broke his neck; that may be the only thing that kept Vinnie Mac from firing his ass!)
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Post by The Deadly Snake on Jul 4, 2005 11:23:44 GMT -5
Y'know... you'd think that someone about to be driven head-down toward the canvas would be a little more concerned with not getting his neck broken than with whatever Bob thought he needed to dead-ass Lesnar for. I'm not a huge Lesnar fan, but it's clear that Holly was being a jag-off. It looks like to me Brock, tired to let him down gently, but miscalculated on how he should have let him go...
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Post by laserblade on Jul 4, 2005 11:49:32 GMT -5
I think Lesnar tried to Hurt Holly because he was scared of him
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Post by viscera on Jul 4, 2005 12:58:50 GMT -5
Oh wait a minute... I just had a theory... if Brock had never left... after the Pay Per View... Hardcore Holly might have actually... won the WWE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
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Post by hbkismyherostill on Jul 4, 2005 13:02:10 GMT -5
I remember watching that and thinking Holly deadweighted himself to be a prick,that actually made me a fan of Brock Lesnar. He did get punished after that if you guys remember. He was put in a feud with Hardcore Holly.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Jul 4, 2005 13:30:01 GMT -5
My opinion is that no one "deserves" to have their neck broken.
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