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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jun 4, 2009 14:25:40 GMT -5
Just do what they did with CM Punk. Have him pretty much be "himself", don't get a ton into the details, and just know that in the days of Youtube, fans will catch up pretty fast on what this guy is about. And keep him off Raw. Then his notoriety'll take over. |
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Post by Joekishi on Jun 4, 2009 15:16:40 GMT -5
hasn't he said he doesn't want to go to WWE? He said he'd go when he felt he was done with what he wanted to do in life. Though I think him going in now would work, he'd spend minimal time in FCW, then be brought up when they found a spot for the guy. I personally think he'd thrive on Smackdown or ECW right now. well, yes, he's half-korean/half-american, but he's none japanese. My point was that JWY is pretty much the only Asian guy (that includes Ricky Steamboat) to not be placed in an "OMG HE's FROM THE ORIENT!" type of gimmick. Jimmy's pretty much himself. But he's an asian guy portraying an american stereotype. Danielson would be a white guy portraying an asian stereotype. And yeah it has been done before with the white dudes in masks or ninja outfits |
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Post by Ridley on Jun 4, 2009 16:54:55 GMT -5
hasn't he said he doesn't want to go to WWE? He said he'd go when he felt he was done with what he wanted to do in life. Though I think him going in now would work, he'd spend minimal time in FCW, then be brought up when they found a spot for the guy. I personally think he'd thrive on Smackdown or ECW right now. well, yes, he's half-korean/half-american, but he's none japanese. My point was that JWY is pretty much the only Asian guy (that includes Ricky Steamboat) to not be placed in an "OMG HE's FROM THE ORIENT!" type of gimmick. Jimmy's pretty much himself. But he's an asian guy portraying an american stereotype. Danielson would be a white guy portraying an asian stereotype. And yeah it has been done before with the white dudes in masks or ninja outfits  ? |
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Post by Starlight Starbright on Jun 4, 2009 17:18:02 GMT -5
being reallistic it makes no sense, and is detrimental to his current off-the wall character. Seriously he's basically CM Punk without the tatoos, just bring him in to wrestle and he'll get over based on how good he is. Giving him an out of nowhere "Japan is so cool" gimmick would suck. Plus Japan's not that cool. Yeah i know we went through this last week, and my topic about it got deleted. But people don't really care about Japanese wrestling, not even the japanese. Like Anime the American nerds are far more fanatic for it because "OMGZ Itz JAPANEZ datz kewlz" the gimmick has no legs, and hey he'd be awesome if booked with a nerd gimmick yeah that's better bring him in as Wrestling Nerd Bryan Poindexter, he'd wear a sweater vest and glasses with tape in the middle. I agree with pretty much everything said here. Except, if Danielson came to WWE, I would just like for him to keep the gimmick he has now. That way when he fails and gets fired, there won't be the typical complaints of 'They messed with his character." Wow, that is so awful.  |
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Post by Starlight Starbright on Jun 4, 2009 17:20:18 GMT -5
hasn't he said he doesn't want to go to WWE? He said he'd go when he felt he was done with what he wanted to do in life. Though I think him going in now would work, he'd spend minimal time in FCW, then be brought up when they found a spot for the guy. I personally think he'd thrive on Smackdown or ECW right now. well, yes, he's half-korean/half-american, but he's none japanese. My point was that JWY is pretty much the only Asian guy (that includes Ricky Steamboat) to not be placed in an "OMG HE's FROM THE ORIENT!" type of gimmick. Jimmy's pretty much himself. But he's an asian guy portraying an american stereotype. Danielson would be a white guy portraying an asian stereotype. And yeah it has been done before with the white dudes in masks or ninja outfits Jimmy Wang Yang was a Jung Dragon and Akio before his Jo Koy/other asian stand up comic from the south whose name I can't remember gimmick kicked in. And the whole point of him being the way he is now is because he's an asian dude with a southern accent. So I wouldn't count that. Jamie-san says it never works, anyway. |
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Jun 5, 2009 8:47:37 GMT -5
I actually thought of a way to convey what I'm imagining. Think Steve Williams and Terry Gordy when they came to WCW in 92. They came over with the IWGP tag belts and they were billed from Nagoya, Japan. I'm just thin king about taking this a little further.
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Post by Z-A Sandbaggin' Son of a b!%@h on Jun 5, 2009 8:49:13 GMT -5
so he'd be a white guy who loves asian culture? Team him up with Jimmy Wang Yang So he'd be a heel Japanese Sympathizer? WtH is wrong with you? That's a jobber gimmick and he'd be challenging Hornswoggle for the cruiser title before doing that with a world title. Hell it makes more sense for him to do that with the US title. that's a stupid idea for his character. A REALLY stupid Idea. He'd be a Japanese sympathizer, when there are no Japanese heels wow lets be a douchebag when the guy has an idea... damn |
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Post by charlesmc206 on Jun 5, 2009 11:41:00 GMT -5
so he'd be a white guy who loves asian culture? Team him up with Jimmy Wang Yang So he'd be a heel Japanese Sympathizer? WtH is wrong with you? That's a jobber gimmick and he'd be challenging Hornswoggle for the cruiser title before doing that with a world title. Hell it makes more sense for him to do that with the US title. that's a stupid idea for his character. A REALLY stupid Idea. He'd be a Japanese sympathizer, when there are no Japanese heels being reallistic it makes no sense, and is detrimental to his current off-the wall character. Seriously he's basically CM Punk without the tatoos, just bring him in to wrestle and he'll get over based on how good he is. Giving him an out of nowhere "Japan is so cool" gimmick would suck. Plus Japan's not that cool. Yeah i know we went through this last week, and my topic about it got deleted. But people don't really care about Japanese wrestling, not even the japanese. Like Anime the American nerds are far more fanatic for it because "OMGZ Itz JAPANEZ datz kewlz" the gimmick has no legs, and hey he'd be awesome if booked with a nerd gimmick yeah that's better bring him in as Wrestling Nerd Bryan Poindexter, he'd wear a sweater vest and glasses with tape in the middle.  |
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Jun 5, 2009 12:10:49 GMT -5
Honestly if Danielson were to arrive in WWE, I could picture him landing on ECW playing Jack Swagger's brother. Or give him a goatee and have him be Bizarro Swagger.
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Post by Supersmark is a Troll on Jun 5, 2009 12:52:54 GMT -5
Honestly if Danielson were to arrive in WWE, I could picture him landing on ECW playing Jack Swagger's brother. Or give him a goatee and have him be Bizarro Swagger. A tag team perhaps, but they wouldn't make him Swagger's brother, even WWE knows not to do that. |
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Post by Joekishi on Jun 5, 2009 14:52:24 GMT -5
I actually thought of a way to convey what I'm imagining. Think Steve Williams and Terry Gordy when they came to WCW in 92. They came over with the IWGP tag belts and they were billed from Nagoya, Japan. I'm just thin king about taking this a little further. Miracle Violence connection, made that team work and were awesome in All Japan. The thing was everybody knew them as these tough american guys from the eighties. THeir feud with the Steiners was awesome and at no point was their being awesome in Japan a point in their run in WCW. |
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Jun 5, 2009 15:58:39 GMT -5
I actually thought of a way to convey what I'm imagining. Think Steve Williams and Terry Gordy when they came to WCW in 92. They came over with the IWGP tag belts and they were billed from Nagoya, Japan. I'm just thin king about taking this a little further. Miracle Violence connection, made that team work and were awesome in All Japan. The thing was everybody knew them as these tough american guys from the eighties. THeir feud with the Steiners was awesome and at no point was their being awesome in Japan a point in their run in WCW. I'd say it was a point in their WCW run. Granted it was not a huge part of their run but their work in Japan was brought up a lot during it. Not that its important but I also remeber them coming in with Japanese ring jackets. So it may not have been a huge point but it was a point. |
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Post by salsashark on Jun 5, 2009 16:04:32 GMT -5
I thought your idea was pretty good, OP.
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