what tookworld wildife fund so long?

[calmlikeabomb420]

i knew about both back in 87 when i started watching wrestling..it was pretty popular then..im sure they knew

[Citizen Snips Has Left]

The growth of the Internet. Any time you'd type in WWF, you'd get Vince's company, not the Wildlife Fund.

[Magician under the moonlight]

They basically didn't care until it hit Europe the most.

[CJ Denton is Egon]

Jun 14, 2009 21:30:06 GMT -5 Citizen Snips Has Left said:

The growth of the Internet. Any time you'd type in WWF, you'd get Vince's company, not the Wildlife Fund.

And you still do.

[Professor Chaos]

I'd never give a dime to the Wildlife fund for what they did to the WWF name. Hope they lost a lot of money as a result of their douchebagary.

[James McCloud IS John Godot]

Pandas make slow process servers.

[Dave at the Movies]

I honestly don't get it at all. I always thought that it wasn't possible to trademark an acronymn.

[The Line]

the funny part is that WWF.com still isn't the Fund's website.

[Lupin the Third]

Jun 14, 2009 21:40:55 GMT -5 James McCloud IS John Godot said:

Pandas make slow process servers.

And they have horrible workrates, no matter how cute they are. They're holding the Bengal Tiger down, even thought the Bengal Tiger has an awesome workrate.

[James McCloud IS John Godot]

Jun 14, 2009 21:45:21 GMT -5 The Line said:

the funny part is that WWF.com still isn't the Fund's website.

Yes, but it isn't Vince's either. And in the end, isn't that the greatest victory of all?

What do you mean "No'!?

[TRUTH TELLER]

The reason Vince lost is because he signed an agreement in the late 90's promising not to market the initials "WWF" in Europe...then did anyway. That's the only reason he lost. It would have apparently been an open and shut win for Vince otherwise. He screwed the pooch rrr panda on this one.

[Dave at the Movies]

Jun 14, 2009 21:51:50 GMT -5 TRUTH TELLER said:

The reason Vince lost is because he signed an agreement in the late 90's promising not to market the initials "WWF" in Europe...then did anyway. That's the only reason he lost. It would have apparently been an open and shut win for Vince otherwise. He screwed the pooch rrr panda on this one.

I don't see why he would have even agreed to something like that.

[Jay Carroll]

Jun 14, 2009 21:38:58 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

I'd never give a dime to the Wildlife fund for what they did to the WWF name. Hope they lost a lot of money as a result of their douchebagary.

The problem I have with most people that make statements like this is that more often than not, you never planned on contributing to the World Wildlife Fund to begin with, nor knew of their existence before they forced Vince and Co. to have to change their name.

Basically, the World Wildlife Fund had taken Titan Sports to court in 1994 and argued sucessfully that there was some confusion, especially in the North American market, between the wrestling company and the nature association. (At this point, the World Wildlife Fund was known as the World Wildlife Fund for Nature outside of North America) The only place where Titan Sports actually was affected by this ruling was in North America, they could still use the WWF name, logo, and anything else associated with it (which is why the New Generation and old school WWF logos are permissable in WWE Video releases, while the barbed wire logo isn't). Titan Sports made the conscious decision to ignore this court ruling, so the World Wildliffe Fund did what was within their rights and got the rights to WWF.com, and also got the courts to force Vince and company to conform to the ruling.

So, if you want to be angry with someone, be angry with Vince for not obeying a court ruling. The only thing about the case that makes me mad nowadays is that the World Wildlife Fund went ahead and changed their North American name to World Wildlife Fund for Nature as well, which pretty much made the lawsuit a mute point.

[Mike Strike]

Jun 14, 2009 21:29:05 GMT -5 calmlikeabomb420 said:

i knew about both back in 87 when i started watching wrestling..it was pretty popular then..im sure they knew

The same reason you waited so long to ask this question?

[Bob Schlapowitz]

Jun 14, 2009 22:01:11 GMT -5 Jay Carroll said:

Jun 14, 2009 21:38:58 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

I'd never give a dime to the Wildlife fund for what they did to the WWF name. Hope they lost a lot of money as a result of their douchebagary.

The problem I have with most people that make statements like this is that more often than not, you never planned on contributing to the World Wildlife Fund to begin with, nor knew of their existence before they forced Vince and Co. to have to change their name.

Basically, the World Wildlife Fund had taken Titan Sports to court in 1994 and argued sucessfully that there was some confusion, especially in the North American market, between the wrestling company and the nature association. (At this point, the World Wildlife Fund was known as the World Wildlife Fund for Nature outside of North America) The only place where Titan Sports actually was affected by this ruling was in North America, they could still use the WWF name, logo, and anything else associated with it (which is why the New Generation and old school WWF logos are permissable in WWE Video releases, while the barbed wire logo isn't). Titan Sports made the conscious decision to ignore this court ruling, so the World Wildliffe Fund did what was within their rights and got the rights to WWF.com, and also got the courts to force Vince and company to conform to the ruling.

So, if you want to be angry with someone, be angry with Vince for not obeying a court ruling. The only thing about the case that makes me mad nowadays is that the World Wildlife Fund went ahead and changed their North American name to World Wildlife Fund for Nature as well, which pretty much made the lawsuit a mute point.

I don't care one bit about the name change itself. But I will always find it ridiculous that they had to go back and edit past footage, rather than just changing the name, changing the logo and moving forward.

[noleafclover1980]

Yeah, the worst part for me is hearing guys like Hulk Hogan talking about his WWE title defense against Andre the Giant and crap like that, like they actually retconned the 80's and 90's.

[johnnyk9]

What I don't get is on WWE DVD with old footage the old WWF logos can be shown but the attitude one has to be blurred

[The Summer of Muskrat XVII]

Jun 15, 2009 4:59:20 GMT -5 johnnyk9 said:

What I don't get is on WWE DVD with old footage the old WWF logos can be shown but the attitude one has to be blurred

Because the agreement that was made only pertained to Attitude Era marketing, it wasn't retroactive.

[playoldgames]

I'm sure they could have reached a compromise...

[chunkylover53]

Jun 14, 2009 22:01:11 GMT -5 Jay Carroll said:

Jun 14, 2009 21:38:58 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

I'd never give a dime to the Wildlife fund for what they did to the WWF name. Hope they lost a lot of money as a result of their douchebagary.

The problem I have with most people that make statements like this is that more often than not, you never planned on contributing to the World Wildlife Fund to begin with, nor knew of their existence before they forced Vince and Co. to have to change their name.

Basically, the World Wildlife Fund had taken Titan Sports to court in 1994 and argued sucessfully that there was some confusion, especially in the North American market, between the wrestling company and the nature association. (At this point, the World Wildlife Fund was known as the World Wildlife Fund for Nature outside of North America) The only place where Titan Sports actually was affected by this ruling was in North America, they could still use the WWF name, logo, and anything else associated with it (which is why the New Generation and old school WWF logos are permissable in WWE Video releases, while the barbed wire logo isn't). Titan Sports made the conscious decision to ignore this court ruling, so the World Wildliffe Fund did what was within their rights and got the rights to WWF.com, and also got the courts to force Vince and company to conform to the ruling.

So, if you want to be angry with someone, be angry with Vince for not obeying a court ruling. The only thing about the case that makes me mad nowadays is that the World Wildlife Fund went ahead and changed their North American name to World Wildlife Fund for Nature as well, which pretty much made the lawsuit a mute point.

Why couldn't the World Wrestling Federation just give the World Wildlife Fund money to change their name? You have to realize, the WWF initials that North American people(not just fans) associate with was wrestling. Hell, the non-wrestling public still has that mindset, and that was over 7 years ago. Granted, I got use to it, but the editing and name recognition and such is annoying. When I refer to anything in WWE history before 2002, I refer to it as WWF because thats the name I grew up with.

Just a thought.