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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2008 2:13:36 GMT -5
It's just, you'd think a guy would want to be more respected in his journalistic career, instead of sounding like a prick. It's very possible that this may just be another part of Alvarez' war on TNA. He really hates that company, as I recall. Well he's not much of a journalist if he holds personal grudges. Sounds like any other high and mighty internet wrestling fan to me. So, uhhh, like all of them? By which I am referring to wrestling journalists, not wrestling fans. Though I wouldn't be that far off.
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Post by H-Fist on Dec 29, 2008 3:06:26 GMT -5
It's just, you'd think a guy would want to be more respected in his journalistic career, instead of sounding like a prick. It's very possible that this may just be another part of Alvarez' war on TNA. He really hates that company, as I recall. Well he's not much of a journalist if he holds personal grudges. Sounds like any other high and mighty internet wrestling fan to me. Doesn't sound like much of a basketball, either. But seriously, hinting so strongly at steroid abuse in this case seems irresponsible unless he has sources in the bag. Yes, it would certainly seem to be the kind of injury that can result from rapid (often drug induced) muscle growth. Especially since it follows the triceps injury, one can look at it as being either a) steroid-related history of torn muscles, or b) biceps as result of overtraining to rebuild lost muscle after injury and basic rehab. So given the possibility of option b, Alvarez probably ought to have some good sources that he can't use more than deep background.
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Post by @TenaciousBe on Dec 29, 2008 3:44:32 GMT -5
Is there really any point to having this character on TV now? It's obviously nothing but a short-term video game tie-in, and the game was out months ago. That's when Suicide should have been brought out, Kaz or not. Now, it's just pointless.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Dec 29, 2008 4:57:47 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels is Curry Suicide. He comes to the ring in suicide's gear plus Curry hat, and a bucketful of steaming vindaloo. Beats the opponent then force feeds them the curry until...
Ok, I got nothing.
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Post by The_ripoff_artist on Dec 29, 2008 5:44:18 GMT -5
Put Paul London under the mask. I rather see Daniels wrestle.
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Post by Cap'n Crud on Dec 29, 2008 6:39:34 GMT -5
"There is a lesson to be learned from this that people in wrestling never learn." While TNA technically has a drug policy in place, they have yet to enforce it. The injury probably would have been prevented if they had enforcement in place"
Or it's a classic example of shit happens. Wrestlers do get hurt. This is professional wrestling not professional pillow fighting.
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Post by domrep on Dec 29, 2008 8:06:19 GMT -5
Has Honky Tonk or Lance talked to Kaz personally and see if he took roids, and that's why he got hurt again? If I were Kaz, I'd be pissed right now. You're being accused of possible drug use without any evidence to to support it.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 29, 2008 9:32:14 GMT -5
Has Honky Tonk or Lance talked to Kaz personally and see if he took roids, and that's why he got hurt again? If I were Kaz, I'd be pissed right now. You're being accused of possible drug use without any evidence to to support it. They haven't talked to Kaz, but the evidence to support it is he tore two muscles in the run of a few months, and the fact is, muscles aren't meant to tear like that. Lance and Honky Tonk didn't say, Kaz too roids. They said this stuff in general awhile ago.
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Post by domrep on Dec 29, 2008 9:38:48 GMT -5
So if I tear my hamstring and tear a bicep within 6 months, does this mean I'm on steroids? Not trying to start an argument here, but unless Alvarez physically saw Kaz take something, he's off base and should issue an apology. It's so irresponsible. He acts like he's a journalist when he's no different than all the writers on the NEWZ sites.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 29, 2008 9:45:02 GMT -5
Believe me, I think Bryan Alverez is the biggest douche in the universe, especially when it comes to reporting wrestling. I think like, he probably shouldn't have said that and just simply reported it, which is what he's supposed to do, and let others make their own assumptions as to why his muscles started tearing like paper.
He is irresponsible, but if you did tear your hamstring and biceps in the run of 6 months, unless you had to horrible luck to be hit by a physical object that would tear those muscles, then yeah, you probably would be taking steroids. There's a possibility you have really really bad luck, but it looks more like steroid abuse when muscles tear frequently.
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Post by B'Cup x on Dec 29, 2008 10:03:23 GMT -5
I cant be the only one who thinks it would be a massive waste to hire paul london as a stand in can i?
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Post by rawthentic on Dec 29, 2008 10:09:06 GMT -5
I say just write the character off TV. They can easily do so. Wait a couple weeks and then announce that Suicide actually went through with it. Say that an injured Frankie Kazarian stumbled across him in a parking garage.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 29, 2008 10:56:35 GMT -5
Daniels makes the most sense, since Suicide's storyline parallels Daniels' being fired. Daniels comes back as this guy, gets a measure of revenge, and gets his job back.
But the idea that anyone has that they could throw any athletic guy into the costume and it'll work itself out already shows how little they have invested in the character, and that it's doomed to failure.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 29, 2008 11:10:52 GMT -5
I cant be the only one who thinks it would be a massive waste to hire paul london as a stand in can i? It would only be worth it to have him reveal himself. But then, London was never that big a name, so a big reveal angle wouldn't play off THAT huge, either.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 29, 2008 13:13:04 GMT -5
What happens if CM Punk tears a muscle? Can we assume drug use for him, as well? Also... I really hope TNA isn't reading about now... I'd bring in Big Daddy V to wear the mask, say Suicide got lazy and out of shape, and have Foley come up and fire him forever! Suicide takes of the mask as Mabel splashes Foley into oblivion and joins MEM. Although, that would be awesome. On second thought, TNA... USE THIS IDEA
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 29, 2008 13:48:47 GMT -5
Paul London would be excellent, However I'd rather see Kenny Omega in that outfit because he's the same size as Kazarian, but more flippy.
Plus "OH MY GOD THAT'S PAuL LONDON, WHAT's HE DOING HERE IN THE IMPACT ZONE!?"
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 29, 2008 14:05:11 GMT -5
What happens if CM Punk tears a muscle? Can we assume drug use for him, as well? No, because Punk hasn't torn a muscle in his career I don't believe, and hearing one muscle tear doesn't mean steroid abuse. Tearing a number of muscles a lot is simply a sign of steroid abuse. Two in the run of 6 months jumps out as steroid abuse. Two in like, 7 or 8 years probably isn't. Once a year looks pretty bad. Twice a year looks even worse. I'm not trying to bury Kaz or anything, to each is own. Everyone makes choices. Some guys are probably on steroids, but don't abuse them and are perfectly healthy. Some don't do them at all. But tearing two muscles in the run of 6 months isn't normal, unless of course as I said, he either has the worst luck, or he was hit by something.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Dec 29, 2008 14:22:15 GMT -5
The TNA game hasn't really been anything people most care about for months now. The game came out, was decent albeit underwhelming, and I'd say gamers have long since moved on.
Suicide the character should go out of business, much like thew company that created him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2008 15:12:40 GMT -5
Christopher Daniels is Curry Suicide. Oh My God! That's hara-kiri! What's he doing in the impact zone?!
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Post by chairshotshurthead on Dec 29, 2008 16:39:40 GMT -5
So if I tear my hamstring and tear a bicep within 6 months, does this mean I'm on steroids? Not trying to start an argument here, but unless Alvarez physically saw Kaz take something, he's off base and should issue an apology. It's so irresponsible. He acts like he's a journalist when he's no different than all the writers on the NEWZ sites. Muscle tears do not happen that frequently as a result of natural wear and tear. Most muscle tear injuries in the wrestling business are a direct result of steroid/HGH use, so it's not a great leap to make to think that these injuries are drug-related, particularly so close together. And of all the people to get up in arms about 'steroid' accusations, you pick Kaz? And of all the people to question their credibility, you pick Alvarez, one of the more clued up wrestling journalists? Give me a break
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