Toates Madhackrviper
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 15, 2008 7:47:12 GMT -5
Guys like seeing women wrestle, and when you had Christy Hemme look as hot as she did on last week's Impact, it's no wonder why. I still can't get over how hot she looked... did she do something different? Anyway, I'm going with the softcore porn for the guys and actually good wrestling for t'others.
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Post by blef on Dec 15, 2008 9:42:01 GMT -5
BEWBZ!!!!!!!!
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Post by NOwave on Dec 15, 2008 11:00:45 GMT -5
Multiple things have combined to make this the best women's pro wrestling division ever:
1) good characters/booking
2) diversity of characters
3) good matches
4) boobs
5) the contrast with WWE, which clearly thinks of the Divas as eye candy and nothing more.
For example, hot knockouts include:
Level 1 Hotness: Christy, Velvet, Traci, Lauren, So Cal Val
Level 2 Hotness: Angelina, Jackie, Rhaka, Taylor, Roxxi
Level 3 Hotness: Kong, ODB, Bolt, (and I'm probably forgetting a few-I guess Karen Angle is gone?)
N/A: Saeed/Cheerleader Melissa
Wrestling knockouts:
Level 1 wrestlers: Jackie, Angelina, Kong, Roxxi
Level 2 wrestlers: Christy(improving), Velvet, Traci (although she hasn't done much lately) ODB, Bolt, Taylor
Level 3: Rhaka(can improve), Saeed/Melissa(also could improve)
N/A-Lauren, So Cal Val
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Post by OriasPool on Dec 15, 2008 13:36:26 GMT -5
actual good matches
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Dec 15, 2008 14:36:23 GMT -5
I think there may be a degree of casual fan interest as well at stake. TNA did build up a fair bit of interest when they first started to push the knockouts division, and to the fan who will flick over but not necessarily stay for the duration of the show, changing the channel when there's a knockouts match on then switching back afterwards would certainly account for any slight ratings spikes.
Oh and ofc BEWBZ. You can never forget BEWBZ.
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Post by hollywood on Dec 15, 2008 15:35:16 GMT -5
It's the one thing about TNA that stands out. It's actually different. Badass babes that kickass are more and more popular these days, too.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 15, 2008 15:38:15 GMT -5
I'd say this is closest to the truth. It's a well-marketed and booked division, and one that hits the right combination of attractive women and solid, enjoyable, competitive matches (even the NAME of the division conveys this). Also, TNA treats it in a more consistent manner than the WWE treats its women's divisions. You'll notice the only gimmick matches they do are established wrestling gimmick matches, like ladder or hardcore matches - this puts them on an equal level to the male divisions. The focus is on the wrestling, and the hotness is a bonus. The most important factor here, I think, is that all of the established Knockouts have definite characters or gimmicks, which makes them distinct from one another and gives them their own motivations. There are always at least a couple of storylines running, which tend to actually be the most consistent and logical feuds in TNA, and a lot of that's because most of the Knockouts have well-built characters. Their personalities drive the plot, so there's something for fans to care about. It's pretty old-school wrestling booking, but it's straightforward and accessible and it works. In comparison to how overbooked the rest of TNA usually is, I'm not surprised the Knockouts division is so popular. That being said, though, the division could use a bit of a shakeup. Gail's departure hurt, and Taylor was a bust as a champ. They need a strong face for the fans to get behind. I think they could actually make a go of it with Christy, because she's got charisma and doesn't need to carry the division - Kong and the BP can do the heavy lifting of any feud they're in - but she needs stronger wins. Not roll-ups or fluke victories. A finisher that actually hits and looks strong would be necessary. Her current finisher has a terrible name, I think. Impossible to take seriously because of it, and serious leg injuries just waiting to happen, she needs to retire that damn move. Indeed all things considered; she really needs a new finisher IMHO as well.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 15, 2008 15:39:10 GMT -5
It's the one thing about TNA that stands out. It's actually different. Badass babes that kickass are more and more popular these days, too. Gotta love that; both in TNA and in general. ;D
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Post by hollywood on Dec 15, 2008 15:40:25 GMT -5
It's the one thing about TNA that stands out. It's actually different. Badass babes that kickass are more and more popular these days, too. Gotta love that; both in TNA and in general. ;D I'm surprised Russo hasn't suggested giving one of them a "Barb Wire" gimmick. Oh s***...does he visit this board...?
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Post by Celgress on Dec 15, 2008 15:42:05 GMT -5
Gotta love that; both in TNA and in general. ;D I'm surprised Russo hasn't suggested giving one of them a "Barb Wire" gimmick. Oh s***...does he visit this board...? ;D
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Post by Splinter on Dec 15, 2008 16:32:20 GMT -5
Lets look at this way. I can watch hot women like Velvet, Angelina and Christy wrestle better quality matches than I'm used to seeing hot women in (the only other exceptions really being Mickie and Victoria), or I can watch the Samoan Buffet Buster bore me to tears with his Chris Benoit Bob Holly charisma in really ridiculous angles and swerves that Stevie Wonder could see coming. Considering the midcard is all high flyers really and the upper card is for the large part bland (Sting), boring (Joe), or just sh*t (Nash/Steiner 75% of the time) it's not hard to see why the women get the highest ratings
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Post by ThatIndyMark on Dec 16, 2008 12:00:31 GMT -5
A combo of ta-tas for the casuals and good wrestling for the hardcore fans. Yeah, but who really wants to see Awesome Kong's ta-tas?
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 16, 2008 13:18:44 GMT -5
because people like seeing hot chicks in skimpy outfits.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 16, 2008 13:25:23 GMT -5
A combo of ta-tas for the casuals and good wrestling for the hardcore fans. Yeah, but who really wants to see Awesome Kong's ta-tas? I didn't mind when they came out.
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Post by royboy8 on Dec 16, 2008 14:33:12 GMT -5
well this week it had to do with the KO'S getting the most tv time for a match I would say. If's it's on long enough, people will turn over just to wait for it to be done I would guess. I know that's what I did, because I really wanted to see feast or fired results.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 20, 2008 18:40:42 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out why the best all-around wrestler they have is forced to wear a burkha and pretend to be east indian.
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Post by jamin90 on Dec 21, 2008 1:53:42 GMT -5
It's the only major thing I think that makes TNA different to WWE. It's their new X Division. The standout product.
Theirs not much advertisement for wrestling in Australia, but they had Christy Hemme and Traci Brooks on our morning show, talking about the Knockouts, Awesome Kong's reign, and how it's serious wrestling. They never once touched on anything else happening in TNA, and they were advertising the show. So I think it's the quality matches
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Post by GaTechGrad on Dec 21, 2008 6:22:17 GMT -5
I think it's the same reason why strip clubs have some ugly girls... guys can watch the Knockouts and think "hey, I could actually have a shot with her." The women in the other organization are all supermodel playmates, which are obviously out of the league of a vast majority of guys.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 21, 2008 10:00:59 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out why the best all-around wrestler they have is forced to wear a burkha and pretend to be east indian. *Thumbs WAY Up* Same here LOL.
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Post by Splinter on Dec 21, 2008 10:13:56 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out why the best all-around wrestler they have is forced to wear a burkha and pretend to be east indian. *Thumbs WAY Up* Same here LOL. Wait you mean it's not because TNA wants to create Muslim heels? Damn and there was me thinking all this time that Abdul Bashir was a cheap knockoff of Mohammed Hassan. And really he's just misunderstood.
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