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Post by Maffew on Dec 14, 2008 6:55:37 GMT -5
Someone a few months back mentioned the EXTREME Chopper for Hardcore Heaven 97, which I would have to agree with. Agreed. Billy Corgan attacking Justin Credible was painful to watch also. I'd possibly go with Steve Corino as world champ, but that's not quite fitting into the traditional Wrestlecrap definition. Weird World of Wrestling 'inducted' Roadkill, but that's debatable. In 2000 and onwards, him and Doring were well over.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 14, 2008 12:23:56 GMT -5
Weird World of Wrestling 'inducted' Roadkill, but that's debatable. In 2000 and onwards, him and Doring were well over. True, but my original WWoW wasn't dedicated to "bad" gimmicks, just oddball ones. Amish was super-over but it was still a WTF gimmick.
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Post by Maffew on Dec 14, 2008 16:40:57 GMT -5
Weird World of Wrestling 'inducted' Roadkill, but that's debatable. In 2000 and onwards, him and Doring were well over. True, but my original WWoW wasn't dedicated to "bad" gimmicks, just oddball ones. Amish was super-over but it was still a WTF gimmick. So we're in agreement then
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Post by Gopher Mod on Dec 14, 2008 16:45:06 GMT -5
True, but my original WWoW wasn't dedicated to "bad" gimmicks, just oddball ones. Amish was super-over but it was still a WTF gimmick. So we're in agreement then .... Chickens.
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Post by Bocuma on Dec 14, 2008 17:12:33 GMT -5
Didn't RD and Blade say that they wouldn't induct ECW stuff and, for the most part, other indy stuff since the companies lack resources, talent, etc.? Yep. From the FAQ: Q: Where's all the ECW stuff? A: ECW, in my opinion, never really had much crap. They did stupid angles, but they were stupid angles to get people like Stevie Richards' Clueless Putz character over. If I dig some ECW WrestleCrap up, I'll post it, but I've yet to see anything that I just can't live without inducting.
Q: I just got back from an independent show, and one of the guys had a terrible gimmick. Will you post him? A: As a rule, we never goof on independent guys. WrestleCrap co-founder Merle Vincent wrote about this back in his April 14, 2000 column:
"There are a lot of crappy gimmicks in the indies, but you have to understand a few things about independant wrestling in this country, For one thing, most of the guys who might have some of the sillier gimmicks don't use those gimmicks exclusively; in one town, they might be "John Hillbilly" because it gets over there, and in a town a hundred miles away, they might work as "The Fancy, Rich Guy With Playing Cards."
Working face on one show, heel on another...you can't fault a guy for trying to get a better pay day any way he can. While it might in fact be a "crappy" gimmick, only a small handful of people are subjected to it.
In the indies, the gimmicks you see are usually just what the worker can up with that doesn't cost alot to make work. He has no "wardrobe department" to outfit him in whatever wild direction his mind's eye sees his gimmick going. Add in the fact that most of the bookers he deals with have no interest in helping him get over; they just want a worker to work cheap and work well."
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Post by Triple Kelly on Dec 14, 2008 19:18:45 GMT -5
The Mass Transit incident isn't a bad idea for induction. Lapses in judgement as huge as what led to that are pretty wrestlecrap. I believe RD said he wouldn't induct Mass Transit, Over the Edge 99 or New Jack and Vic Grimes almost killing each other for obvious reasons that the incidents resulted in very serious injury or death. Oh yeah, another crappy ECW angle was Corino trying to start s*** at a Limp Bizkit concert.
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Post by bob on Dec 14, 2008 20:51:43 GMT -5
I never saw ECW until they got TNN and have no idea who the following things that have been disccused in here: The Dupps, Slice N Dice Ramirez, Judge Jeff Jones, The Extreme Chopper, and Sal Bellomo
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 14, 2008 23:22:02 GMT -5
I never saw ECW until they got TNN and have no idea who the following things that have been disccused in here: The Dupps, Slice N Dice Ramirez, Judge Jeff Jones, The Extreme Chopper, and Sal Bellomo Slice N Dice Ramirez was ECW's parody of Scott Hall, and was even played by Rick Bogner, the Fake Razor. Judge Jeff Jones was a manager who was dressed like...well, a judge, and used a lot of judge/courtroom remarks. Sal Bellomo is a LONG time jobber (used to be in WWF among others) who adopted a gimmick of a fat, hairy Roman soldier who threw dolls and other stuff to the kids in the audience. The Dupps - and there were a lot of them - were basically a Dudleyz rip-off, but the joke was they were all hillbillies and all their names were puns. Jack Dupp (jacked up), Bo Dupp (bowed up), etc. Why they never introduced their sister/valet Nok I have no idea...
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 14, 2008 23:23:47 GMT -5
The Dupps - and there were a lot of them - were basically a Dudleyz rip-off, but the joke was they were all hillbillies and all their names were puns. Jack Dupp (jacked up), Bo Dupp (bowed up), etc. Why they never introduced their sister/valet Nok I have no idea... There was also Stan Dupp who later became Trevor Murdoch.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 14, 2008 23:37:13 GMT -5
I never saw ECW until they got TNN and have no idea who the following things that have been disccused in here: The Dupps, Slice N Dice Ramirez, Judge Jeff Jones, The Extreme Chopper, and Sal Bellomo Slice N Dice Ramirez was ECW's parody of Scott Hall, and was even played by Rick Bogner, the Fake Razor. Judge Jeff Jones was a manager who was dressed like...well, a judge, and used a lot of judge/courtroom remarks. Sal Bellomo is a LONG time jobber (used to be in WWF among others) who adopted a gimmick of a fat, hairy Roman soldier who threw dolls and other stuff to the kids in the audience. The Dupps - and there were a lot of them - were basically a Dudleyz rip-off, but the joke was they were all hillbillies and all their names were puns. Jack Dupp (jacked up), Bo Dupp (bowed up), etc. Why they never introduced their sister/valet Nok I have no idea... TNA did have Fluff
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 14, 2008 23:42:22 GMT -5
Poor Rick Bogner. He was such an incredibly talented big man, and all he will be ever known for is a Razor Ramon impersonator.
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Dec 15, 2008 0:08:24 GMT -5
Slice N Dice Ramirez was ECW's parody of Scott Hall, and was even played by Rick Bogner, the Fake Razor. Judge Jeff Jones was a manager who was dressed like...well, a judge, and used a lot of judge/courtroom remarks. Sal Bellomo is a LONG time jobber (used to be in WWF among others) who adopted a gimmick of a fat, hairy Roman soldier who threw dolls and other stuff to the kids in the audience. The Dupps - and there were a lot of them - were basically a Dudleyz rip-off, but the joke was they were all hillbillies and all their names were puns. Jack Dupp (jacked up), Bo Dupp (bowed up), etc. Why they never introduced their sister/valet Nok I have no idea... TNA did have Fluff In ECW, the valet was Mae Dupp.
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Post by Triple Kelly on Dec 15, 2008 0:42:35 GMT -5
Sal Bellomo is a LONG time jobber (used to be in WWF among others) who adopted a gimmick of a fat, hairy Roman soldier who threw dolls and other stuff to the kids in the audience. A guy who looks like fat Bruiser Brody in a Roman soldier outfit throwing dolls to kids makes you a WILDMAN, apparently.... It's quite funny cause when I heard him being referred to as Sal Bellomo, I went, "Hey, isn't that the guy Roddy Piper called a 'dumb wop' on one of his Pits in the mid 80s?"
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Post by Real Folk Bruce on Dec 15, 2008 0:50:05 GMT -5
Poor Rick Bogner. He was such an incredibly talented big man, and all he will be ever known for is a Razor Ramon impersonator. A-FRICKIN'-MEN!!! Rick Bogner (known in FMW as Big Titan) was a tremendously under-appreciated talent who if he went to ECW as his regular self and NOT as a Razor wannabe would have blown everyone away and possibly have become a huge star in the business. I can understand when Vince Mcmahon misdirects small talented wrestlers and use as jobbers and little else, but f***ing up the debut of a 6'7 Puro veteran who could bust out a moonsault frog splash is beyond retarded. Looking back, I'm surprised they didn't push him to the moon, or at the very least give him a new gimmick like they did with Kane.
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Post by bob on Dec 15, 2008 2:01:01 GMT -5
I never saw ECW until they got TNN and have no idea who the following things that have been disccused in here: The Dupps, Slice N Dice Ramirez, Judge Jeff Jones, The Extreme Chopper, and Sal Bellomo Slice N Dice Ramirez was ECW's parody of Scott Hall, and was even played by Rick Bogner, the Fake Razor. just outta curiousity did Slice N Dice Ramirez exsist before or after Bogner's run as Fake Razor
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 15, 2008 2:06:16 GMT -5
Skull Von Krush
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 15, 2008 2:08:11 GMT -5
and here's video of Wildman Sal Bellomo being managed by what looks like Les Claypool and The Grand Wizard's lovechild
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 15, 2008 2:23:31 GMT -5
I never saw ECW until they got TNN and have no idea who the following things that have been disccused in here: The Dupps, Slice N Dice Ramirez, Judge Jeff Jones, The Extreme Chopper, and Sal Bellomo Slice N Dice Ramirez was ECW's parody of Scott Hall, and was even played by Rick Bogner, the Fake Razor. Judge Jeff Jones was a manager who was dressed like...well, a judge, and used a lot of judge/courtroom remarks. Sal Bellomo is a LONG time jobber (used to be in WWF among others) who adopted a gimmick of a fat, hairy Roman soldier who threw dolls and other stuff to the kids in the audience. The Dupps - and there were a lot of them - were basically a Dudleyz rip-off, but the joke was they were all hillbillies and all their names were puns. Jack Dupp (jacked up), Bo Dupp (bowed up), etc. Why they never introduced their sister/valet Nok I have no idea... PLEASE tell me Judge Jeff Jones at least had a finisher called "The Gavel", especially a Polish Hammer....
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Dec 15, 2008 3:08:57 GMT -5
and here's video of Wildman Sal Bellomo being managed by what looks like Les Claypool and The Grand Wizard's lovechild He's gone a long way since jobbing to Bobby Heenan.
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Post by Maffew on Dec 15, 2008 5:28:26 GMT -5
I never saw ECW until they got TNN and have no idea who the following things that have been disccused in here: The Dupps, Slice N Dice Ramirez, Judge Jeff Jones, The Extreme Chopper, and Sal Bellomo Judge Jeff Jones was a manager who was dressed like...well, a judge, and used a lot of judge/courtroom remarks. Personally I never minded JJJ. I thought he was used well during Sid's brief run, as his gimmick was all kinds of pre-'attitude' era WWF/WCW, and he was used to introduce that other classic WWF/WCW icon Sid. Maybe subconsciously seeing an early nineties gimmick before Sid made Sid's entrance that more dramatic. A red herring, if you weeeel. "Oh man, who's this dude in a judge outfit...OH MY GOD IT'S SID" I am looking far too much into this, and I agree he was out of place when he was managing Mike Awesome (what's the point in managing a guy who can speak already? And this is when Awesome was listenable on the mic) but I can't bare the thought of JJJ being considered wrestlecrap when the Extreme Chopper is there. JJJ> Extreme Chopper.
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