Starlight Starbright
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Post by Starlight Starbright on May 17, 2009 17:25:10 GMT -5
Edit: I haven't gotten Raven's SOTR vol. 5 yet but there's a story about HHH and Sanders in there and I was wondering if that's why Sanders doesn't work any more. Dude had chops that even WWE couldn't ignore in it's quest to make anything associated with WCW meaningless. Raven said that the first day Sanders was there he was going around introducing himself to everyone. Apparently HHH was talking to someone so Sanders just walked right past him . Raven seems to think thats the reason Sanders got nixed. WWE has always been a circus because of crap like that going on backstage. From the shower watching in the 80s to this shit right here in the present. Pitiful. "Bow-uh down-uh to me-uh or my-uh ego-uh will be-uh very offended-uh and I'll blackball you-uh" |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2009 17:26:01 GMT -5
he sucked, he was an overrated wrestler lol, since when has that made a difference in the WWE? He was big, they would have given him time to improve. Typical WWE-ism: "he sucks, he was overrated" and therefore worthless. You know, in a company that would fire Colt Cabana for not having the right "look" they'd be all over this guy. ..overrated or not. Besides that there's no way he was worse than Chuck Palumbo but unlike Palumbo he actually had a look. Which was? Palumbo had a Number of looks Plus Palumbo could do his gimmicks with a Straight Face and was Sane unlike Sean |
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Post by Joekishi on May 17, 2009 17:30:43 GMT -5
I really liked the FBI with Nunzio, Palumbo, and Johnny the Bull, sure they were all italian, but it worked
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Post by lunataxc on May 18, 2009 2:16:33 GMT -5
lol, since when has that made a difference in the WWE? He was big, they would have given him time to improve. Besides that there's no way he was worse than Chuck Palumbo but unlike Palumbo he actually had a look. Actually Palumbo was 10 times the worker he was. If you check out their matches when they were a tag team. Palumbo did all the work. All O'haire did was that swanton bomb and that was it. And they did give O'haire time to improve. It didn't make a difference he still sucked. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 18, 2009 2:25:58 GMT -5
Raven said that the first day Sanders was there he was going around introducing himself to everyone. Apparently HHH was talking to someone so Sanders just walked right past him . Raven seems to think thats the reason Sanders got nixed. WWE has always been a circus because of crap like that going on backstage. From the shower watching in the 80s to this excretory matter right here in the present. Pitiful. "Bow-uh down-uh to me-uh or my-uh ego-uh will be-uh very offended-uh and I'll blackball you-uh" Well, to be fair, it's common knowledge that your first day in the locker room you shake hands and introduce yourself regardless of who you are. It's a courtesy/respect issue. That being said, I absolutely LOVED the Thrillers. Thought they were gonna be huge stars someday, but it totally didn't end up that way  Palumbo would be the one I'd say was the most successful followed by Johnny the Bull and Jindrak being pretty much neck and neck. |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on May 18, 2009 2:51:42 GMT -5
Jindrak and Stamboli(as Rellik) from what I hear are doing awesome in Mexico.
It is kind of weird when you look at all these guys. All of them had talent and should have been the next generation of superstars but that didn't happen. They were all victims of the times. When they were still young and in their prime wrestling just went downhill big time and practically became monopolized by WWE which was very bad for the wrestling industry.
They didn't get near the chance that guys like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, CM Punk, and John Morrison are getting.
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Post by thesam07 on May 18, 2009 2:59:29 GMT -5
First off, great read Tyfo.
Secondly, NBT were awesome (except for Palumbo. I was never a big fan of Palumbo).
But here is how I would place NBT by success.
1. Palumbo
2. Stamboli
3. O'Haire
4. Jindrak
5. Stasiak
6. Sanders
7. Reno
Also, does anyone remember when (i think it was) DDP or Kevin Nash or Ernest Miller would call them the "Natural Born Rating Killers"?
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Post by chunkylover53 on May 24, 2009 17:50:45 GMT -5
Wow, the person who went on to have the most success was a guy who played a queer in a somewhat over tag team. The NBT certainly didn't set the World on fire.
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Post by srr on May 24, 2009 18:11:33 GMT -5
wow that sounds dumb
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Post by mrjl on May 24, 2009 18:51:59 GMT -5
WWE has always been a circus because of crap like that going on backstage. From the shower watching in the 80s to this excretory matter right here in the present. Pitiful. "Bow-uh down-uh to me-uh or my-uh ego-uh will be-uh very offended-uh and I'll blackball you-uh" Well, to be fair, it's common knowledge that your first day in the locker room you shake hands and introduce yourself regardless of who you are. It's a courtesy/respect issue. That being said, I absolutely LOVED the Thrillers. Thought they were gonna be huge stars someday, but it totally didn't end up that way Palumbo would be the one I'd say was the most successful followed by Johnny the Bull and Jindrak being pretty much neck and neck. see, that amazes me. If I'm some nobody who just came in and was only just trying to make a name for myself I'd never even think of going around and introducing myself and wasting the important people's time. |
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Post by i.Sarita.com on May 24, 2009 19:33:42 GMT -5
This isn't really adding much, but good god can Stasiak get ANY TANNER in that picture?
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Post by Dave at the Movies on May 24, 2009 19:41:19 GMT -5
This isn't really adding much, but good god can Stasiak get ANY TANNER in that picture? He was ahead of the crowd of douchebags that do it now. After he stopped doing it it just wasn't cool anymore. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 24, 2009 23:31:43 GMT -5
Palumbo was the most successful in the US. He had a decent run in the WWE. tag titles with Billy Gunn. Now lets face it, he had some reason why they team was over being the fact that before he teamed with Chuck. Billy Gunn wasn't going anywhere and wasn't since he broke up with Roadogg. After the run Gunn was not going anywhere again.
Now Johnny The Bull was successful in Japan.
Jindrak is doing very well in Mexico. The rest are not doing well.
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Post by mellanby19 on May 25, 2009 0:15:46 GMT -5
I remember thinking that when these guys were blowing up in WCW that maybe they wre getting pushed too fast, and looking back I wonder if paying some dues and having to work a little longer before getting pushes might not have helped them in the long run. When you start handing kids the tag straps as with O'Haire and Chuck, it's gotta be hard for them to not develop a sense of entitlement, which isn't the best thing to have when your employer gets swallowed up by vinny mac and suddenly you have to answer to hhh and ut.
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Post by hassanchop on May 25, 2009 5:25:09 GMT -5
It would be something if WWE reunited them while they still had the gimmicks they were given, The Natural Born Thrillers, Chuck Palumbo as an ambiguously gay person, Sean O'Haire the Devil's advocate, Mark Jindrak as the Reflection of Perfection, Shawn Stasiak in his Planet Stasiak gimmick, and Johnny the Bull in his FBI gimmick, that be hilarious.
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Post by lovingway on May 25, 2009 6:09:08 GMT -5
It would be something if WWE reunited them while they still had the gimmicks they were given, The Natural Born Thrillers, Chuck Palumbo as an ambiguously gay person, Sean O'Haire the Devil's advocate, Mark Jindrak as the Reflection of Perfection, Shawn Stasiak in his Planet Stasiak gimmick, and Johnny the Bull in his FBI gimmick, that be hilarious. I smell sitcom I always marked for O'Haire and Reno. But if look back at their matches you will see a lot of air between their moves (O'Haire) or they just weren't fluent (Reno). I never understood why everybody liked Sanders. He was a, somewhat, above average speaker, but nothing that was going to lead to him being a major player. Plus he sucked in the ring. The only cool move he ever did besides the 3.0, which is not a finisher, was a match with Kwee Wee where O'Haire and Jindrak threw Kwee Wee over the top rope from outside and Sanders caught him in a slam. The others were bleh. Jindrak and Stamboli had talent. Palumbo and Stasiak were coherent but never gonna to light the world on fire Now where is a video of them singing the Backstreet Boys with Nash? |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2009 7:19:58 GMT -5
I really liked the FBI with Nunzio, Palumbo, and Johnny the Bull, sure they were all italian, but it worked They were over too. Johnny, in particular, was effective in his roll, being a New York blockhead who just happened to be as strong as an ox. Fans legitimately reacted well when he'd just muscle big guys up and slam them. |
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Post by Joekishi on May 25, 2009 17:44:15 GMT -5
Add Johny's speed and strength with Palumbo's hard hitting brawling and suplexes, you get a really good tag team, with Nunzio as the manager/alternate who'd run interference with a dropick to the face or a sicilian slice.
Ah I really do miss velocity
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2009 18:57:09 GMT -5
That was probably my favorite version of the FBI. Damn do I miss me some Johnny The Bull. He used to have my favorite abs in wrestling for awhile too.
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Post by ICBM on May 25, 2009 19:28:28 GMT -5
I loved Mike Sanders, Reno had a badass edge to him that could have worked well in TNA but not WWE. Maybe the b or c show on wwe but not a RAW guy.
Stasiak was never worth tin-snork and thats all I shall say on him
Jinjrak and O'haire were good in the ring together, green but given time and mentoring they could have been solid
In the end I agree that with all the potential they had the sad fact is they never ended up amounting to anything. Victims all of the wrestling biz that was in such a state of flux back then that casualties were certain. In this case all of thier careers were on the casualty list
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