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Post by darthpipes on Dec 28, 2006 22:42:57 GMT -5
Warrior was definitely a draw. It wasn't Hogan alone that packed over 67,000 people in the Skydome for Wrestlemania VI. He had great matches and memorable feuds Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage and Rick Rude. He was definitely up there with Hogan, Andre, Piper, and Savage as one of the biggest stars in the WWF in the eighties and early-90s.
Someone here once brought up a great point that Warrior is crapped on by the WWE while Shawn Michaels is always praised. Michaels is overwhelmingly superior to Warrior in terms of ring work, no doubt about it. But Michaels was 10 times more difficult to work with than Warrior, throwing hissy fits in the locker room, changing the results of matches, throwing around his backstage power, and walking out when he didn't get his way. Not to mention that during Michaels first run as the the WWF Champion in 1996, the company lost $6 million. Yet everyone at the E always runs to kiss his ***.
Warrior's a true ***hole but he definitely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
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Post by MGH on Dec 28, 2006 23:13:00 GMT -5
No.
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Post by sandimashigh on Dec 28, 2006 23:23:26 GMT -5
Only if he could rush through the audience once his music hits when his name's announced and gorrilla press slam mene gene off the stage. That would be AWESOME-O!!!!!!
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Post by repomark on Dec 29, 2006 0:15:24 GMT -5
He will be inducted but only once he is dead. He is an absolute looney toon but beyond any shadow of a doubt he belongs in the HOF for the simple WM6 factor.
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Post by repomark on Dec 29, 2006 0:24:40 GMT -5
Warrior was definitely a draw. It wasn't Hogan alone that packed over 67,000 people in the Skydome for Wrestlemania VI. He had great matches and memorable feuds Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage and Rick Rude. He was definitely up there with Hogan, Andre, Piper, and Savage as one of the biggest stars in the WWF in the eighties and early-90s. Someone here once brought up a great point that Warrior is crapped on by the WWE while Shawn Michaels is always praised. Michaels is overwhelmingly superior to Warrior in terms of ring work, no doubt about it. But Michaels was 10 times more difficult to work with than Warrior, throwing hissy fits in the locker room, changing the results of matches, throwing around his backstage power, and walking out when he didn't get his way. Not to mention that during Michaels first run as the the WWF Champion in 1996, the company lost $6 million. Yet everyone at the E always runs to kiss his ***. Warrior's a true ***hole but he definitely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Just read this and yes I agree with most of what you have said but quite frankly to call shawn more difficult to work with than hellwig is laughable - hence who is still there. Shawn never held anyone to ransom over cash - and I am also bewildered as to where you arrive at the HBK costing WWE $6Million dollars by himself - yes that had nothing to do with other contributing factors like a Hogan heel turn. Also - I am not sure of the exact figure but the fact hellwig directly sued wwe for approx $6million dollars generally would suggest he is an absolute no brain tool who does not deserve to breathe the same air as a five star match machine like HBK - even though HBK is/was a little crybaby premadona in his hay day. Biting the had that fed you is not a good trait to have - and not one that HBK has these days. Either way - in my opinion the reason why HBK is continually praised is simply because he has arguably the greatest back catelogue of matches in terms of quality bell to bell in the history of the business. Hellwig has three matches. Both have attitude problems. One has talent. The end. However - both still belong in the HOF.
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Post by Painz_Daughter:HD on Dec 29, 2006 1:10:59 GMT -5
No..
However if it has to be done, wait until after he has passed away so we won't have to hear him rant and rave about homosexuals, sueing the WWE, and other inaudable non-sense. I know it sounds senseless but I feel the HOF should have some integrity..
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Post by Corporate H on Dec 29, 2006 1:11:58 GMT -5
Yeah, he's an important figure in pro wrestling even if he was a flash in the pan.
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Post by nisi on Dec 29, 2006 1:19:32 GMT -5
No. Warrior was the first of the Vince-created "superstars"--I see little of his own merit that would get him in. People forget how brief "destrucity" really was.
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Dec 29, 2006 2:26:19 GMT -5
I say no, as once he made it to the top he lost steam very quickly, and then was on his way out of the WWF not long after. He couldn't cut a promo if his life depended on it back in the 80's/early 90's, and he actually lost fans because of this when he was billed as "Hulk Hogan Part Deux". He just couldn't cut it. Whereas a guy like Randy Savage could wrestle brilliant matches and cut outstanding promos, and a guy like Hulk Hogan could cut brilliant promos and use his charisma to rally thousands of fans to get behind his every move, a guy like the Ultimate Warrior was a terrible wrestler who was terrible on the mic, and his only sign of charisma was spazzing out and shaking the ropes. Don't even get me started on his mid-90's WWF stint or his late 90's WCW stint, as absolutely nothing good came of those.
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Post by darthpipes on Dec 29, 2006 16:43:04 GMT -5
Warrior was definitely a draw. It wasn't Hogan alone that packed over 67,000 people in the Skydome for Wrestlemania VI. He had great matches and memorable feuds Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage and Rick Rude. He was definitely up there with Hogan, Andre, Piper, and Savage as one of the biggest stars in the WWF in the eighties and early-90s. Someone here once brought up a great point that Warrior is crapped on by the WWE while Shawn Michaels is always praised. Michaels is overwhelmingly superior to Warrior in terms of ring work, no doubt about it. But Michaels was 10 times more difficult to work with than Warrior, throwing hissy fits in the locker room, changing the results of matches, throwing around his backstage power, and walking out when he didn't get his way. Not to mention that during Michaels first run as the the WWF Champion in 1996, the company lost $6 million. Yet everyone at the E always runs to kiss his ***. Warrior's a true ***hole but he definitely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Just read this and yes I agree with most of what you have said but quite frankly to call shawn more difficult to work with than hellwig is laughable - hence who is still there. Shawn never held anyone to ransom over cash - and I am also bewildered as to where you arrive at the HBK costing WWE $6Million dollars by himself - yes that had nothing to do with other contributing factors like a Hogan heel turn. Also - I am not sure of the exact figure but the fact hellwig directly sued wwe for approx $6million dollars generally would suggest he is an absolute no brain tool who does not deserve to breathe the same air as a five star match machine like HBK - even though HBK is/was a little crybaby premadona in his hay day. Biting the had that fed you is not a good trait to have - and not one that HBK has these days. Either way - in my opinion the reason why HBK is continually praised is simply because he has arguably the greatest back catelogue of matches in terms of quality bell to bell in the history of the business. Hellwig has three matches. Both have attitude problems. One has talent. The end. However - both still belong in the HOF. But we only heard one side of the Summerslam story. Another side is that Vince owed Warrior money from Wrestlemania VII and wasn't paying him. If that is true then Warrior was right to do what he did at Summerslam.
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Post by skskillz on Dec 31, 2006 9:55:53 GMT -5
Does anyone find it contradictory to say Warrior shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame, yet the same people who say that also say guys like Curt Hennig and Rick Rude and Ted Dibiase and Owen Hart should definitely be in? Can anyone explain what they did in the business that surpassed what Warrior did from 1988-1992?
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Post by Fireravenv on Dec 31, 2006 10:04:06 GMT -5
I agree. I don't think he would accept. Based on the DVD trashing the Warrior though, I don't think he cared at all about the history and tradition of wrestling. He was in it for the money and that's all he wanted as much of it as possible. The Hall of Fame means nothing to him because wrestling means nothing to him. That is his choice though. Nothing wrong with a man making megabucks. He worked hard for it, possibly not as hard as others, but that's capitalisim for ya.
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Post by repomark on Dec 31, 2006 10:58:03 GMT -5
Just read this and yes I agree with most of what you have said but quite frankly to call shawn more difficult to work with than hellwig is laughable - hence who is still there. Shawn never held anyone to ransom over cash - and I am also bewildered as to where you arrive at the HBK costing WWE $6Million dollars by himself - yes that had nothing to do with other contributing factors like a Hogan heel turn. Also - I am not sure of the exact figure but the fact hellwig directly sued wwe for approx $6million dollars generally would suggest he is an absolute no brain tool who does not deserve to breathe the same air as a five star match machine like HBK - even though HBK is/was a little crybaby premadona in his hay day. Biting the had that fed you is not a good trait to have - and not one that HBK has these days. Either way - in my opinion the reason why HBK is continually praised is simply because he has arguably the greatest back catelogue of matches in terms of quality bell to bell in the history of the business. Hellwig has three matches. Both have attitude problems. One has talent. The end. However - both still belong in the HOF. But we only heard one side of the Summerslam story. Another side is that Vince owed Warrior money from Wrestlemania VII and wasn't paying him. If that is true then Warrior was right to do what he did at Summerslam. Personally - I would be inclined to believe Vince's side of this particular story. However - it was not Summerslam 91 I was referring to above. Warrior sued WWE after leaving for approx $6million in a suit that related to the rights to the Warrior name.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 31, 2006 12:01:23 GMT -5
What do you all think of Sid as a HOFer?
I know he's a goof, but he was pretty over for a minute or two.
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