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Post by thatguybayne on Dec 3, 2009 21:43:43 GMT -5
I have yet to watch this, I've seen the lame sequel starring Mila Kunis but never the original. Her career definately wasn't helped by that movie. Seemed a while before I saw her in another one. Should have called it Dawson's Creek Psycho. That's how it felt to me.
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Post by Sarsaparilla on Dec 3, 2009 21:49:52 GMT -5
I read the book first and it completely ruined the film for me. Watch the movie first because a lot of people rave about it and Christian Bale was kinda funny, but I hated it and it's probably because the book IS SO FREAKING GOOD. One of the best and most up-front reads ever, save it for straight after watching it.
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Post by heyguesswhatidid on Dec 3, 2009 22:56:45 GMT -5
It's a mediocre adaptation of the book, and yet it's still an amazingly good movie.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 3, 2009 23:03:08 GMT -5
Loved this movie can't wait to read the book. Right now I am working thru The Lecter novels from back to front (Hannibal-Red Dragon), then onto Darkly Dreaming Dexter and then hopefully find a copy of American Psycho...is this too much serial killing?
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Dec 3, 2009 23:45:26 GMT -5
It's a mediocre adaptation of the book, and yet it's still an amazingly good movie. That right there is the key to movie adaptations - a good film does not necessarily mean a good adaptation, and vice versa. My favorite example of this is The Shining.
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Post by Insomniac on Dec 3, 2009 23:49:47 GMT -5
Loved this movie can't wait to read the book. Right now I am working thru The Lecter novels from back to front (Hannibal-Red Dragon), then onto Darkly Dreaming Dexter and then hopefully find a copy of American Psycho...is this too much serial killing? If you ask me, you can never have too much serial killing.
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Post by Joe Galt on Dec 4, 2009 3:48:55 GMT -5
This movie is more of a realistic take on Bruce Wayne.Instead of having an alter ego as Batman;his alter ego is that of a serial killer.
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Post by Sarsaparilla on Dec 4, 2009 3:58:03 GMT -5
I don't think Patrick Bateman's story was even that of an alternate ego... (Don't click if you haven't read the book or watched the film) SPOILERS:
{Spoiler}...It was that he was in the majority demographic in America: Between 18 and 49, white, male, and also had a lofty position in the business by means of being given to it by his father and was attractive. Yet, he was a serial killer and despite ALL the signs, nobody suspected it, i.e. "murders and executions" is misheard as "mergers and acquisitions", and Willem Dafoe's character didn't really suspect him. But by the end, it's revealed that possibly it was all in his head and he comes to the resolution that however it may be, killer or imagined, he's a disgusting human being and his confession means nothing.
Personally I think it was all in his head, like some of the things that he did were too unrealistic and he went crazy and made that phone call to his lawyer who later said that he ate with Paul Allen in England.
Best book everrrrrr.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 4:07:21 GMT -5
I thought the movie was kind of lame with lots of potential. But it's the best Christian Bale performance I've seen and only time I was really impressed with him. That Phil Collins scene that the OP posted is glorious and by far the best scene in the movie. As much as we agree "The Machinist" is his best performance...and Ellis' novel is so much better then this movie...yes its awesome and is filled with over the top one liners but his zany antics definitely differ from the sociopath of Bateman in written form
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 4:09:56 GMT -5
FYI fans of the movie search on google for "American Psycho 2000" Mary Herron and others created a world for Patrick 10 years post of the movie and their is alot of emails and vital information that Ellis himself accepts...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 4:12:06 GMT -5
Loved this movie can't wait to read the book. Right now I am working thru The Lecter novels from back to front (Hannibal-Red Dragon), then onto Darkly Dreaming Dexter and then hopefully find a copy of American Psycho...is this too much serial killing? {Spoiler}Dexter himself is a homage to Patrick Bateman...he uses the name as an alias from time to time in show and book
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Post by Jackson "The Cool" Carter on Dec 4, 2009 7:32:42 GMT -5
Is that a raincoat?
Yes it is!
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 4, 2009 8:47:13 GMT -5
I don't think Patrick Bateman's story was even that of an alternate ego... (Don't click if you haven't read the book or watched the film) {Spoiler}...It was that he was in the majority demographic in America: Between 18 and 49, white, male, and also had a lofty position in the business by means of being given to it by his father and was attractive. Yet, he was a serial killer and despite ALL the signs, nobody suspected it, i.e. "murders and executions" is misheard as "mergers and acquisitions", and Willem Dafoe's character didn't really suspect him. But by the end, it's revealed that possibly it was all in his head and he comes to the resolution that however it may be, killer or imagined, he's a disgusting human being and his confession means nothing.
Personally I think it was all in his head, like some of the things that he did were too unrealistic and he went crazy and made that phone call to his lawyer who later said that he ate with Paul Allen in England. {Spoiler}I don't think it was all in his head. I think the whole thing at the end was in his head, but everything leading up to it he did.
There was the apartment with the real estate lady, who told him to get out of there. She was driven by money, because the price of the apartment would go down if it was the scene of a murder.
As for his lawyer, mistaken identity is a big thing in the story. His own lawyer didn't even know he was talking to Patrick. The guy could have easily been confused about who he ate with. Hell the lawyer didn't even think Patrick could pull something like that off.
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Post by Killah Ray on Dec 4, 2009 9:10:30 GMT -5
When I think about this movie all I can remember is that it's hip to be square....
And the line "don't just stare at it, eat it"...
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Dec 4, 2009 11:20:50 GMT -5
I don't think Patrick Bateman's story was even that of an alternate ego... (Don't click if you haven't read the book or watched the film) {Spoiler}...It was that he was in the majority demographic in America: Between 18 and 49, white, male, and also had a lofty position in the business by means of being given to it by his father and was attractive. Yet, he was a serial killer and despite ALL the signs, nobody suspected it, i.e. "murders and executions" is misheard as "mergers and acquisitions", and Willem Dafoe's character didn't really suspect him. But by the end, it's revealed that possibly it was all in his head and he comes to the resolution that however it may be, killer or imagined, he's a disgusting human being and his confession means nothing.
Personally I think it was all in his head, like some of the things that he did were too unrealistic and he went crazy and made that phone call to his lawyer who later said that he ate with Paul Allen in England. {Spoiler}I don't think it was all in his head. I think the whole thing at the end was in his head, but everything leading up to it he did.
There was the apartment with the real estate lady, who told him to get out of there. She was driven by money, because the price of the apartment would go down if it was the scene of a murder.
As for his lawyer, mistaken identity is a big thing in the story. His own lawyer didn't even know he was talking to Patrick. The guy could have easily been confused about who he ate with. Hell the lawyer didn't even think Patrick could pull something like that off. That's one of my favorite elements is that it is open to interpretation. To me, the best movies don't truly end when the credits finish. In fact, it reminds me of Roger Ebert saying something like (paraphrasing here), "A good movie is never long enough and a bad movie is never short enough."
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Dec 4, 2009 11:34:07 GMT -5
Is that a raincoat? Yes it is! Hey Paul!
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