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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 22, 2009 10:41:32 GMT -5
okay, this is really bugging me. in the Siege: the Cabal one shot, Norman is talking about Asgard being a threat to national security. he even talks to Dr. Doom and Loki about it, and that spirals out of control. then Norman tries to get the president to let him bomb Asgard. thing is, I've been reading JMS' run on Thor and uh.. isn't Asgard in LATVERIA now? the whole issue seems like they're acting like it's still in Oklahoma. wouldn't Doom speak up about Norman wanting to bomb it because it's in HIS country now? and isn't Loki the one responsible for it being there in the first place? or is this just another example of Bendis not reading anything he didn't write himself and making a massive continuity error just so he could tell his own (probably shitty but I'll wait and see) story?
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Post by paragon on Dec 22, 2009 13:02:27 GMT -5
As I recall, the Asgardians are in Latveria. Asgard itself is still hovering over Oklahoma.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 22, 2009 19:04:41 GMT -5
so it is... memory must have been hazy. but all the gods of Asgard ARE in Latveria, Asgard's pretty much empty... so... Osborn is declaring war on an empty building?
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Post by The Tank on Dec 22, 2009 19:46:15 GMT -5
Yea, I think we all know there's gonna be holes in this story.
Personally, I'm just gonna try to look at the good things about Siege:
1. Thor finally gets to be important again.
2. Once this atrocity's over with, maybe (okay, hopefully) the yearly status quo changing crossovers can stop for the next decade.
Is at least two years without a clusterf***-over too much to ask?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 23, 2009 11:06:19 GMT -5
/\ second one won't happen as long as Bendis/Quesada are in charge. they love them some pointless crossovers that don't mean anything in 3 months.
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Post by darthalexander on Dec 23, 2009 13:15:05 GMT -5
I have been out of comics so long...what the heck is Norman Osborn doing in Asgard?  |
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Post by The Tank on Dec 23, 2009 13:18:59 GMT -5
I have been out of comics so long...what the heck is Norman Osborn doing in Asgard? Due to a series of idiotically complicated events (to sum it up shortly, Thor), Asgard is currently floating over Oklahoma. So it's not that Ozzy's in Asgard, it's that Asgard's technically American soil these days. And Osborn wants to destroy it for......some bullshit reason that doesn't actually make any sense since pretty much all of the gods are currently in Latveria, as Baldobomb pointed out previously. |
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Post by darthalexander on Dec 23, 2009 13:40:18 GMT -5
Thanks Tank - but this Norman - is it the son or the father? I know Spidey's history was ret-conned recently and I was wonder which one it is.
Man I am so out of the loop now.
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Post by The Tank on Dec 23, 2009 13:45:50 GMT -5
Thanks Tank - but this Norman - is it the son or the father? I know Spidey's history was ret-conned recently and I was wonder which one it is. Man I am so out of the loop now. Uh..............it's Norman Osborn. He came back from the dead in the late '90s as the mastermind (read: cop-out end) to the Clone Saga. Since then, he was placed in charge of the Thunderbolts, and in the aftermath of Secret Invasion has basically become Nick Fury. Honestly, you'd be better off going to his Wikipedia article. I'd be typing 'til Christmas day if I tried to explain all this to you. |
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Post by darthalexander on Dec 23, 2009 13:51:17 GMT -5
I'll go to the Wiki then.  Wasn't it Harry who was behind the Clone Saga, etc??? Meh, I'll look it up. Explaining comics is like trying to explain 20 years of a soap opera I think. Thanks. |
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Dec 23, 2009 15:15:29 GMT -5
The Asgardian's were supposed to be back in Oaklahomo by now. But seeing how JMS is so slow and bitched out of Thor despite all the concessions they gave him and warned him about Seige a year ago he still never finished his run.
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Post by The Tank on Dec 23, 2009 15:28:30 GMT -5
The Asgardian's were supposed to be back in Oaklahomo by now. But seeing how JMS is so slow and bitched out of Thor despite all the concessions they gave him and warned him about Seige a year ago he still never finished his run. But in the interest of sounding like a comic smark, it's still all Bendis' fault!!!  |
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 24, 2009 9:53:25 GMT -5
Thanks Tank - but this Norman - is it the son or the father? I know Spidey's history was ret-conned recently and I was wonder which one it is. Man I am so out of the loop now. Uh..............it's Norman Osborn. He came back from the dead in the late '90s as the mastermind (read: cop-out end) to the Clone Saga. Since then, he was placed in charge of the Thunderbolts, and in the aftermath of Secret Invasion has basically become Nick Fury a dickcheeze rip-off of Lex Luthor. Honestly, you'd be better off going to his Wikipedia article. I'd be typing 'til Christmas day if I tried to explain all this to you. fixed. it's too bad because Ellis wrote him awesome in Thunderbolts. |
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 24, 2009 9:56:19 GMT -5
The Asgardian's were supposed to be back in Oaklahomo by now. But seeing how JMS is so slow and bitched out of Thor despite all the concessions they gave him and warned him about Seige a year ago he still never finished his run. But in the interest of sounding like a comic smark, it's still all Bendis' fault!!! well ok as long as the asgardians actually end up back in Oklahoma before this clustershmazz starts, I guess it'll uh... kinda... maybe make sense. just like Osborn getting put in charge for no logical reason at the end of Secret Invasion, I still don't see why he has such a hardon for invading asgard all of a sudden. to be fair to JMS, after the way they treated him on Spider-man, I'd probably delay everything like that, too. |
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Post by Kroot bringing Justice on Dec 24, 2009 15:43:02 GMT -5
You haven't been reading have you? This whole time Loki has been manipulating Osborn, and Osborn wanting to invade Asgard actually doesn't have much to do with Asgard itself. Loki convinced Osborn that he need another tragedy to tighten his grip on things in the world so they organize an incident involving a Asgardian.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Dec 24, 2009 15:48:18 GMT -5
I dont know if thats a typo or not but ether way its funny. |
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 24, 2009 16:17:28 GMT -5
You haven't been reading have you? This whole time Loki has been manipulating Osborn, and Osborn wanting to invade Asgard actually doesn't have much to do with Asgard itself. Loki convinced Osborn that he need another tragedy to tighten his grip on things in the world so they organize an incident involving a Asgardian. I am all for Loki being a mastermind, but did he get his penis back yet? |
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Post by The Tank on Dec 24, 2009 16:20:01 GMT -5
You haven't been reading have you? This whole time Loki has been manipulating Osborn, and Osborn wanting to invade Asgard actually doesn't have much to do with Asgard itself. Loki convinced Osborn that he need another tragedy to tighten his grip on things in the world so they organize an incident involving a Asgardian. I am all for Loki being a mastermind, but did he get his penis back yet? Yea, Loki's a guy again. Also, Mighty Avengers FINALLY ended the stupid Scarlet Witch illusion. They don't know it was Loki, but they know it wasn't her. |
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 24, 2009 16:22:22 GMT -5
I am all for Loki being a mastermind, but did he get his penis back yet? Yea, Loki's a guy again. Also, Mighty Avengers FINALLY ended the stupid Scarlet Witch illusion. They don't know it was Loki, but they know it wasn't her. I am so far behind since my shop is all finacial problemed right now. |
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