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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Apr 27, 2010 20:35:40 GMT -5
I also just want to point out, that since becoming tag champion, I've won one match.
I'm like the Jack Swagger of WWCF. Without the lisp.
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Post by Jackson "The Cool" Carter on Apr 27, 2010 20:39:50 GMT -5
I've come to learn that Champions always tend to lose their non-title matches here.
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Post by smokinvokoun on Apr 27, 2010 20:43:51 GMT -5
Im just happy I was able to win a big match for once on PPV.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 27, 2010 21:05:54 GMT -5
I also just want to point out, that since becoming tag champion, I've won one match. I'm like the Jack Swagger of WWCF. Without the lisp. I noticed something like that too, but one? I didn't know it was that egregious. I do usually try to favor champions when I vote, for what it's worth. However, I have made a vow some time ago to never vote for myself as long as I'm champion. I like to live dangerously.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 27, 2010 21:07:20 GMT -5
I've come to learn that Champions always tend to lose their non-title matches here. Really? Can you cite a few? I'm genuinely curious if you're on to something. On the other hand, it may just be how the cookie crumbles.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 27, 2010 21:09:22 GMT -5
Oh, and while I'm at it.
Raw - Epic Heatz! - Old WWF Superstars Theme
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Post by Jackson "The Cool" Carter on Apr 27, 2010 21:12:00 GMT -5
I've come to learn that Champions always tend to lose their non-title matches here. Really? Can you cite a few? I'm genuinely curious if you're on to something. On the other hand, it may just be how the cookie crumbles. It's booking 101, people want to see the champion lose, that way the title match has more of a story when it happens. It's very common with the Tag Titles especially.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 27, 2010 21:13:36 GMT -5
I was talking to Evil a few nights ago, that if I start to fight Viva and Co, I could turn them all Face solely from my sheer nastiness alone. What do you guys think of such a statement?
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Post by Jazzman on Apr 27, 2010 21:20:38 GMT -5
I was talking to Evil a few nights ago, that if I start to fight Viva and Co, I could turn them all Face solely from my sheer nastiness alone. What do you guys think of such a statement? Perhaps, but that also presents a problem. HMH has been the heel stable ever since The Family 1.0 dissolved post Stable Wars. They are too good as foils to turn them face. Viva has been great and he should be a heel. The issue becomes way to add you into the situation. Could we successfully hold two heel stables together at the same time, feuding with each other, yet both keep their heelness? I look at Chikara for current inspiration. The BDK right now is THE heel groups and in my opinion, it leaves the Rudos of the locker room seemingly pointless. The are no longer the evil, they are fighters against it. What I'm proposing is that you are trying to become a BDK like group, evil for the sake of it. As such, what do we do for HMH? Do they become tweeners? If they do, it dilutes a situation that as currently being discussed is convoluted anyway. Our continuity is always shifting around here and to add another group to that may not be the right thing to do now. Perhaps single out a face group to war with? But then that means a face group needs to come forward. I'm sorry if that comes super legalistic or anything, but I went to a Student Association meeting tonight to fight for the music department funding, and I'm in that kind of mode right no.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 27, 2010 21:32:54 GMT -5
I was talking to Evil a few nights ago, that if I start to fight Viva and Co, I could turn them all Face solely from my sheer nastiness alone. What do you guys think of such a statement? Perhaps, but that also presents a problem. HMH has been the heel stable ever since The Family 1.0 dissolved post Stable Wars. They are too good as foils to turn them face. Viva has been great and he should be a heel. The issue becomes way to add you into the situation. Could we successfully hold two heel stables together at the same time, feuding with each other, yet both keep their heelness? I look at Chikara for current inspiration. The BDK right now is THE heel groups and in my opinion, it leaves the Rudos of the locker room seemingly pointless. The are no longer the evil, they are fighters against it. What I'm proposing is that you are trying to become a BDK like group, evil for the sake of it. As such, what do we do for HMH? Do they become tweeners? If they do, it dilutes a situation that as currently being discussed is convoluted anyway. Our continuity is always shifting around here and to add another group to that may not be the right thing to do now. Perhaps single out a face group to war with? But then that means a face group needs to come forward. I'm sorry if that comes super legalistic or anything, but I went to a Student Association meeting tonight to fight for the music department funding, and I'm in that kind of mode right no. Why not? In Toryumon, Crazy MAX and M2K were both heels. But eventually, MAX turned into cool tweener types. What I am saying is who is more eviler then thou? And I think that award would go to me and my boys. Viva has shown sportsmanship before, Sparks is sort of forgiveable in his actions, as well where my character is a irredeemable prick, for starters.
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Post by delurked on Apr 27, 2010 21:33:32 GMT -5
I was talking to Evil a few nights ago, that if I start to fight Viva and Co, I could turn them all Face solely from my sheer nastiness alone. What do you guys think of such a statement? I'd say the Heavy Metal Hollywood guys would definitely be the lesser of two evils. Sparks is a face already, so at the very least people in the imaginary audience would root for him and his side since he's taken so much abuse from Amigo and the others. To be honest, in Heavy Metal Hollywood's last feud with Drakin and littlenaitch they kind of came across as faces too (at least for me), as Viva pointed out rightly that Drakin was abusing his power to try and take the title off him. So it wouldn't be hard to imagine it happening again. That said, King Viva is a great cocky chickens*** heel and I wouldn't want to see him turn.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 27, 2010 21:38:46 GMT -5
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 27, 2010 21:44:02 GMT -5
Really? Can you cite a few? I'm genuinely curious if you're on to something. On the other hand, it may just be how the cookie crumbles. It's booking 101, people want to see the champion lose, that way the title match has more of a story when it happens. It's very common with the Tag Titles especially. Oh yes, of course, but a champion should still represent at least a little. Hogan didn't lose every match in his feuds.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 27, 2010 21:46:17 GMT -5
Heck, if cards are played correctly, HMH could go the Stone Cold/Degeneration X route as "heels who work face."
After all, look at how they transitioned to faces - they didn't change a damn thing but people cheered for them in light of a bigger heel.
What are the current stables anyway?
The Family - Face Heavy Metal Hollywood - Heel The Human Hate Machines - Heel
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Apr 27, 2010 21:57:13 GMT -5
That's a good approximation. I like to look at my character as an example of The Brute, and I tend to write it with touches of The Juggernaut.
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Post by Viva on Apr 27, 2010 22:04:32 GMT -5
I was just going to say, Amigo. I like the Matt Classic angle you took with that promo. I'd like to see more of that. The "I'm better because I've BEEN there already" deal.
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Post by Jackson "The Cool" Carter on Apr 27, 2010 22:49:02 GMT -5
Meanwhile my character is half Muhammad Hassan meets SRS Jericho. So, absolute jerkass who feels justified.
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Post by littlenaitch on Apr 28, 2010 0:21:53 GMT -5
Will anyone ever answer my open challenge or have I retired and gone into the mentor role for The Family? lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2010 0:50:13 GMT -5
I'll do it then
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Post by littlenaitch on Apr 28, 2010 0:55:29 GMT -5
YAY!!! Thank you TTS
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