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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 3, 2009 0:43:07 GMT -5
This week finally did it for me. That Raw Diva Match was absolutely brutal to sit through. And it made me realize something: Every time the Raw divas are on TV, I wish I could make them all magically disappear. I know they didn't have much time in the ring, but it was enough. And the only one who can wrestle, Gail Kim, was unceremoniously thrown out of the ring first, apparently to forward a heel storyline against the posterchild of Diva do-nothingness, Kelly Kelly. It drives me batty watching these wastes of space in the ring. Christ, just make them arm candy again, I don't care what a step back it is. They're just terrible.
*gets off soapbox*
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Post by Michael Coello on Nov 3, 2009 0:45:02 GMT -5
But they're the sexiest women on TV!
......wait, that was Smackdown, wasn't it?
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Nov 3, 2009 0:48:35 GMT -5
Welcome to the world of stevieraymark.
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Post by Fade on Nov 3, 2009 0:52:42 GMT -5
I actually completely agree. And I useto love the Divas back in the Attitude Era.
But these days when I watch RAW or SD! online, i'm always skipping the Diva parts. The last Divas match I watched was Mickie and Gail cause I had to see if it was as bad as everyone was saying.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Nov 3, 2009 1:01:05 GMT -5
Smart, Sexy, Powerfultm!
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Post by The Charismatic Enabeler on Nov 3, 2009 1:08:28 GMT -5
I agree that it's just awful. It's gotten to the point where you can have no talent, an annoying scream and a face like a horse but they'll give you a huge push cuz you can do the splits when you get into the ring.
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Post by dh03grad on Nov 3, 2009 1:17:10 GMT -5
at this point, either sell sex and nudity and treat them like strippers like they used to, or get the in ring workers and treat it as a serious product. The weird half ass hybrid produces silence in the audience and apathy of the viewer.
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Post by lookout on Nov 3, 2009 1:29:25 GMT -5
What boggles the mind really is that the most over divas they have ever had, actually could wrestle or be capable of having good matches. To me they are not only shorting the fans they are screwing themselves out of money.
It's frustrating also because there are a lot of women out there that actually are pretty good and bust their butts but it's the kelly kelly's, the twins, etc who give all the female wrestlers a bad name. Not all of them suck like they do but you would never know it because of the wwe.
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 3, 2009 1:56:36 GMT -5
I think they have the same problem with the Divas that they put in the ring that they have with a lot of the wrestlers: they're trying everything they can to get the next Austin, or Rock, or Cena, but here, they want to get the next Trish or Lita. So they're trying to fit square pegs into round holes, but there's even less care and time put into these girls than there is with the male counterparts...and that's saying something. They're also trying to get their money's worth out of them, but it's only making for more painful television.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Nov 3, 2009 1:58:13 GMT -5
I agree, and I actually enjoy womens wresting on TNA, in indies, japan, etc.
In WWE though...nope. About the only enjoyment I can ever possibly get out of it is counting the botches per match.
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Post by Tombi on Nov 3, 2009 1:58:38 GMT -5
Um, you guys know Alicia Fox won the match; right? You know, Alicia Fox...not actually a bad wrestler at all, pretty good in fact, very athletic girl who's a great seller, can actually get a reaction; had an honest to god good match with Mickie on PPV - you know, that one? Hell, Eve and Gail Kim were in that match too! Is 'half bad wrestlers, half good wrestlers' in a battle royal really that daunting?
I'm not saying that debacle of a match was very good, but what's there to be complain about when it's over and done with? At least they had someone capable win it. (Although I probably would have preferred Eve) Raw does have the biggest quantity of bad wrestling from the divas, but I don't see how they're trying to make the next Trish or Lita when they're barely even pushing them.
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 3, 2009 2:04:52 GMT -5
And the only one who can wrestle, Gail Kim, was unceremoniously thrown out of the ring first I know she can wrestle because I've seen her work from TNA, but she's been like a totally different person in the ring since coming back to WWE. She usually looks pretty lost out there nowadays.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Nov 3, 2009 2:11:37 GMT -5
And the only one who can wrestle, Gail Kim, was unceremoniously thrown out of the ring first I know she can wrestle because I've seen her work from TNA, but she's been like a totally different person in the ring since coming back to WWE. She usually looks pretty lost out there nowadays. Maybe she confused in the 4 sided ring?
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 3, 2009 2:14:05 GMT -5
Maybe the women know WWE will treat them like crap and just half-ass it for a paycheck these days.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 9:48:56 GMT -5
Maybe the women know WWE will treat them like crap and just half-ass it for a paycheck these days. Then fire them all and hire Women who will actually appreciate the job off the Indies
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 9:53:44 GMT -5
Another good thing about ECW - no Divas matches.
I mean, I'd love to have a good women's division, but what we have now is terrible. And I don't care what anyone says, Fox is atrocious.
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Post by Full of IT. on Nov 3, 2009 9:55:19 GMT -5
I swear they only keep Kelly Kelly on the roster to walk through hallways smiling for the camera.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 9:56:41 GMT -5
Another good thing about ECW - no Divas matches. I mean, I'd love to have a good women's division, but what we have now is terrible. And I don't care what anyone says, Fox is atrocious. I'll actually take Fox over Kim anyday thanks to the fact that Kim looks totally lost these days
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Post by lookout on Nov 3, 2009 10:29:27 GMT -5
Um, you guys know Alicia Fox won the match; right? You know, Alicia Fox...not actually a bad wrestler at all, pretty good in fact, very athletic girl who's a great seller, can actually get a reaction; had an honest to god good match with Mickie on PPV - you know, that one? Hell, Eve and Gail Kim were in that match too! Is 'half bad wrestlers, half good wrestlers' in a battle royal really that daunting? I'm not saying that debacle of a match was very good, but what's there to be complain about when it's over and done with? At least they had someone capable win it. (Although I probably would have preferred Eve) Raw does have the biggest quantity of bad wrestling from the divas, but I don't see how they're trying to make the next Trish or Lita when they're barely even pushing them. I'm very high on Fox, she seems to get it. Not only can she wrestle but she has a lot of charisma.
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Post by stevieraymark on Nov 3, 2009 10:38:59 GMT -5
Maybe the women know WWE will treat them like crap and just half-ass it for a paycheck these days. Yeah big bad WWE (and TNA) are really treating them bad i mean giving them a job just because they have a vagina, giving them a GUARANTEED place on the card regardless of match quality/how over they are/if they've even been trained yet.
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