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Post by Robbymac on Dec 5, 2009 23:58:11 GMT -5
Roll your eyes if you like, but that's exactly why those games turned out how they did. Top 4 offense, and Top 4 defense IN THE MOUNTAIN WEST CONFERENCE. Lets remember that. Look, I'm all for someone like Utah getting their shot last year when they were the only unbeaten. I also understand that they would have been completely annihilated by Florida TCU probably will beat Florida in the Sugar Bowl. Good for them if they do. But if you don't think Florida's extreme disappointment about being there is a factor you're kidding yourself. I agree with you guys on the system being terrible, and I'd love to see Cincinnati and TCU get their shot. But it is what it is, and it's giving us what it's designed to do. Matching up the two teams who had the most impressive regular seasons. We need to quit acting like Nebraska is West Texas State or something. Are you in these player's heads or something? I just want to know, since you're so insistent on making that stupid excuse. Oklahoma couldn't have been too damn apathetic, they hung 42 points in the game. TCU is actually legit this year. More than Boise who I was riding most of the season. TCU didn't struggle in half their games against inferior competition. They actually took games against teams from good conferences. That win at Clemson was great for them. Not just winning at BYU, but THRASHING them at BYU's place was shocking. That same team that beat Oklahoma on a neutral field. They crushed nearly everyone, they played a few damn good teams, what the hell more do they need to do before people stop treating them like an afterthought? It's like St. Joes in basketball in 2004. They played in a mediocre conference, but last I checked they were legit one of the best teams in the country. You get the right combo of kids and it's possible. That fact that you're already saying they'll only beat Florida because Florida won't care (it's Tebow's last game, you think he isn't going to care?) is pretty damn insulting to them and the season they've had. Not in their head, but it's only human nature. You're playing all year with one goal. Get to the National Title game. It's soooooo close, and then BAM its yanked out from under you. Now you're playing...who? In the what? Meanwhile the other team is playing in the biggest game in the history of their program trying to prove a point. Look back at the history of bowl games. If you want to find the upsets in the bowls...find the team that stumbled late and cost themselves a higher bowl or a conference title or something against a team that might be in a game they shouldn't be in. I like TCU. They're a legit top 10-15 team. They're not Texas. They're not Alabama. I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind they would not go 12-0 in the Big XII, Big Ten, SEC, Pac Ten, or ACC. I'm not even convinced they'd get through Cincy's schedule unbeaten. Also, you can't ever compare basketball and football.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Dec 5, 2009 23:59:20 GMT -5
Why do people bitch about little things that they can not change? Because if enough people bitch, there's an outside chance it might change. But oh well. Then write Conferences and the NCAA that you want a change. That is the only way they can hear your voice. Tell them directly. If you see that there is a problem,then tell them.
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Post by MGH on Dec 5, 2009 23:59:47 GMT -5
I just want to reiterate since I think it'll be lost in the debates about the BCS, but Ndamukong Suh had one of the best, if not the best, defensive performances from any defensive tackle I can remember in college football. He was a monster on every drive and played perfect football. I wouldn't be surprised if he went #1 despite whatever needs the top team may have, that was just an amazing performance. He seriously deserves every bit of the praise he gets from this game, and every dollar it nets him. He single handedly kept Nebraska alive in that game at times. Without him this thing was a route. Some NFL team is getting (barring injury) a 8-10 year stud for their organization.
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Post by Robbymac on Dec 6, 2009 0:00:53 GMT -5
Both of which are better than the Mountain West. Only team TCU would struggle against in the Big 10 is well, none of them. OU and Texas would at least give them a game. I think Penn State, Iowa, and Ohio State would all beat TCU more often than not. OU, Texas, Oklahoma State, and Nebraska would do the same in the Big XII
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Post by BR329 on Dec 6, 2009 0:01:24 GMT -5
Can they kick out Iowa State and put TCU in the Big 12? Or hell just bring back the Southwest conference? Why Iowa State? Why not Colorado, K-State, Kansas, or Baylor? At least State is going to a bowl game this year. Hell, they beat Nebraska worse than Texas did. ;D I just chose ISU because they were talking bout leaving for the Big 10 awhile back (And it would make more sense for them to bbe there). Also can we change the thread title something more sutible for Texas's execution in Pasadena?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2009 0:04:11 GMT -5
I know this is not the hot subject but let me just say this in light of tonight's games:
Mark Ingram is your Heisman trophy winner, without question. His performance tonight and McCoy's loogie of a game sealed it. The fact we gotta wait until the day of the ceremony is a mere formality.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 6, 2009 0:06:04 GMT -5
Only team TCU would struggle against in the Big 10 is well, none of them. OU and Texas would at least give them a game. I think Penn State, Iowa, and Ohio State would all beat TCU more often than not. OU, Texas, Oklahoma State, and Nebraska would do the same in the Big XII I am sorry, I am a Big 10 fan but, every team in it was shit this year, have been for several years. Against good OoC teams, they suck. B12 wise, like we saw tonight, their D would keep them in it but, TCU is just better. OKSU would give them a tough 1/2 but, not a game. Texas would not stand a chance. People seriously forget how good TCU is, they have been a good to great team for at least 6 years now. If they had the Big 12 money machine behind them, they would be where Texas is.
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Post by THE Baldy Kendrick on Dec 6, 2009 0:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by comahan on Dec 6, 2009 0:07:47 GMT -5
I know this is not the hot subject but let me just say this in light of tonight's games: Mark Ingram is your Heisman trophy winner, without question. His performance tonight and McCoy's loogie of a game sealed it. It's no contest now. Yea, I agree. On McCoy, as a Texas fan, I dont think he should have ever really been considered, tbh. He played like ass in the first half of the season (and tonight, obviously). Shipley was and is more deserving. If I were to vote, id have 1-Ingram, 2-Suh, 3-Gerhart, 4-Spiller, 5-Gilyard
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Post by Robbymac on Dec 6, 2009 0:08:32 GMT -5
Why Iowa State? Why not Colorado, K-State, Kansas, or Baylor? At least State is going to a bowl game this year. Hell, they beat Nebraska worse than Texas did. ;D I just chose ISU because they were talking bout leaving for the Big 10 awhile back (And it would make more sense for them to bbe there). Also can we change the thread title something more sutible for Texas's execution in Pasadena? You know what's funny? If the Texas-Nebraska game took place on October 24, and the Alabama-Tennessee game took place on December 4 we'd all be talking about how 'Bama was going to get rolled.
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Post by MGH on Dec 6, 2009 0:08:44 GMT -5
My Heisman Top 5, in order..
1 - Ingram 2 (really 1b to Ingram's 1a) - Toby Gerhart 3 - CJ Spiller 4 - Colt McCoy 5 - Tim Tebow
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Post by Robbymac on Dec 6, 2009 0:10:39 GMT -5
We'd either end up with Bama-Texas or a Florida-Bama rematch.
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Post by BK From WV on Dec 6, 2009 0:11:27 GMT -5
I just chose ISU because they were talking bout leaving for the Big 10 awhile back (And it would make more sense for them to bbe there). Also can we change the thread title something more sutible for Texas's execution in Pasadena? You know what's funny? If the Texas-Nebraska game took place on October 24, and the Alabama-Tennessee game took place on December 4 we'd all be talking about how 'Bama was going to get rolled. Excellent point.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Dec 6, 2009 0:11:46 GMT -5
I just chose ISU because they were talking bout leaving for the Big 10 awhile back (And it would make more sense for them to bbe there). Also can we change the thread title something more sutible for Texas's execution in Pasadena? You know what's funny? If the Texas-Nebraska game took place on October 24, and the Alabama-Tennessee game took place on December 4 we'd all be talking about how 'Bama was going to get rolled. You don't think it's fair to analyze the level of good play between both of those games, as a football fan? One game was well-coached and executed by both teams, and one game featured awful, ***itty play overall with the exception of one player on the Nebraska defense.
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Post by BR329 on Dec 6, 2009 0:13:16 GMT -5
I just chose ISU because they were talking bout leaving for the Big 10 awhile back (And it would make more sense for them to bbe there). Also can we change the thread title something more sutible for Texas's execution in Pasadena? You know what's funny? If the Texas-Nebraska game took place on October 24, and the Alabama-Tennessee game took place on December 4 we'd all be talking about how 'Bama was going to get rolled. Well the fact that Bama just rolled over the #1 team in the country before this game has something to do with this.
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Post by MGH on Dec 6, 2009 0:13:39 GMT -5
Bickering over Texas and TCU aside, think about this.
Right now there are 5 unbeatens left heading in to the bowls. FIVE. FIVE teams played the entire schedule they were given, including conference championships in some cases, and ran the table. Three of them will not even be given an opportunity to complete to play for the National Championship. That's so messed up. And I thought Auburn six years ago was a shaft job.
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Post by THE Baldy Kendrick on Dec 6, 2009 0:13:39 GMT -5
One game was well-coached and executed by both teams, and one game featured awful, ***itty play overall with the exception of one player several players on the Nebraska defense. Suh was a beast, but he was not the only one putting in work.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Dec 6, 2009 0:15:57 GMT -5
One game was well-coached and executed by both teams, and one game featured awful, ***itty play overall with the exception of one player several players on the Nebraska defense. I think if Suh doesn't have the rare kind of game he had there, the defense doesn't do as good. Fair point there though, but I think my overall point still stands.
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Post by comahan on Dec 6, 2009 0:16:19 GMT -5
Bickering over Texas and TCU aside, think about this. Right now there are 5 unbeatens left heading in to the bowls. FIVE. FIVE teams played the entire schedule they were given, including conference championships in some cases, and ran the table. Three of them will not even be given an opportunity to complete to play for the National Championship. That's so messed up. And I thought Auburn six years ago was a shaft job. Dear god was that SIX years ago? Time flies
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Post by Robbymac on Dec 6, 2009 0:16:50 GMT -5
I think Penn State, Iowa, and Ohio State would all beat TCU more often than not. OU, Texas, Oklahoma State, and Nebraska would do the same in the Big XII I am sorry, I am a Big 10 fan but, every team in it was s*** this year, have been for several years. Against good OoC teams, they suck. B12 wise, like we saw tonight, their D would keep them in it but, TCU is just better. OKSU would give them a tough 1/2 but, not a game. Texas would not stand a chance. People seriously forget how good TCU is, they have been a good to great team for at least 6 years now. If they had the Big 12 money machine behind them, they would be where Texas is. Of the top teams in the Big Ten they've played 2 good OoC teams. They're 1-1 Oklahoma State would give them a tough half, but Texas wouldn't stand a chance? Even though Texas DESTROYED Oklahoma State? TCU is very good, and if they were in the Big XII with the Big XII money machine behind them you could very well be right. But they're not.
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