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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Jan 1, 2010 18:45:23 GMT -5
Bob Dylan: THAT ALBUM WAS AWESOME!
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Jan 1, 2010 18:54:36 GMT -5
1. A lot of of these guys are getting old. Very few artists survive the transition from youth to old age. I mean, it's hard to be young and edgy when you are worried about your kids.
2. Art is ultimately a reflection of the soul of the artist, and it's well known that the soul of modern man is sick.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jan 1, 2010 19:02:19 GMT -5
I was going to title this "Directors on the Decline," but why not all artists: Filmmakers, authors, singers, bands, whatever? Surely we all think of a certain one of them being going downhill as we speak compared to past days of triumph. But could they be defended? For example: Steven Spielberg - Perhaps the most popular filmmaker to ever live (heck Life even named him the most influential person of his generation), 2000s hasn't exactly been that kind for The Beard. The Terminal was a slightly awful "comedy." War of the Worlds and Minority Report were forgettable. And geeks will never let him live down "Nuke the Fridge" in reference to a sequel to a beloved adventure franchise. In Defense: A.I. has as many supporters as detractors (I'm a fan), though I can see why people have problems with it. Thought Munich was a tight good thriller if with some rather awkward moments that can't be excused. His only truely terrific movie of the decade that people associate along with the Beard's best? Catch Me If You Can. Memorable soundtrack, iconic opening credits, very joyful cat and mouse / cop and crook narrative, DiCaprio proving he could survive after Titanic, and most of all....Spielberg was obviously having fun. Remember that? I'm not so sure I agree with this. Whereas Beard may not have had the super huge hits and franchise starters he had in the 80s and 90s, he's had a good solid decade. I didn't see Report or The Terminal, but I heard positive things from there. Personally I believe his shining opus of his work this decade to BE Munich. I loved that film. I'm sure there was a reason it was nominated for Best Picture. Seriously. Munich was one of the best films of the decade in my opinion. Also, I'll defend "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". I think one of the main reasons people put it down so much is nostalgia for the original three Indy movies. Obviously the scene that gets the most is the infamous "nuke the fridge" scene, but is it really THAT much more unrealistic than Indy outrunning a giant boulder? or a Grail Knight living in a cave for 400 years? Or......well, anything from "Temple of Doom"?
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 1, 2010 19:02:40 GMT -5
George Lucas, I mean WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?
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Post by AriadosMan on Jan 1, 2010 19:03:24 GMT -5
Seriously. Munich was one of the best films of the decade in my opinion. Also, I'll defend "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". I think one of the main reasons people put it down so much is nostalgia for the original three Indy movies. Obviously the scene that gets the most is the infamous "nuke the fridge" scene, but is it really THAT much more unrealistic than Indy outrunning a giant boulder? or a Grail Knight living in a cave for 400 years? Or......well, anything from "Temple of Doom"? Temple of Doom's villain>anything from Crystal Skull
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Post by Sickfit, King Of The Fits on Jan 1, 2010 21:21:06 GMT -5
Weezer. How the hell do you go from modern day classics like The Blue Album and Pinkerton to Raditude?
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Post by erisi236 on Jan 1, 2010 22:05:37 GMT -5
George Lucas, I mean WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? He got total control of everything that's what happened, he's a great idea man and all but he really needs handlers.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Jan 1, 2010 22:29:22 GMT -5
George Lucas, I mean WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? He got total control of everything that's what happened, he's a great idea man and all but he really needs handlers. Plus, he lost his cynical edge as he got successful. Just look at "THX 1138": it's very bleak even though it ends on a sort of positive not. Look at "A New Hope" and "Empire Strikes Back": in the former, you have Gran Moff Tarkin just having a whole planet destroyed. And, "Empire" was The Empire wins for 2 hours: Hoth gets taken over, Han is frozen and taken to Jabba, and Luke gets his hand chopped off and learns that Vader's his father. Then, by "Return Of The Jedi," Lucas was rich. And, we got Ewoks. Then, he got richer, and we got "Howard The Duck." Then, he becomes one of the richest producers of all time, and we get the Prequels. The richer he got, the happier he got, the less cynical he got, and the crappier his movies got.
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Post by Jason Todd Grisham on Jan 1, 2010 22:32:06 GMT -5
George Lucas, I mean WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? The main problem? He made Raiders of the Lost Ark with Spielberg and decided that what moviegoers REALLY wanted was a fun fast paced adventure. Seriously, Return of the Jedi was meant to have a bittersweet ending with the death of Lea and stuff, but after making Raiders Lucas decided instead to add in ewoks and get rid of all the subtext. He's followed that train of thought since.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 1, 2010 23:10:21 GMT -5
He got total control of everything that's what happened, he's a great idea man and all but he really needs handlers. Plus, he lost his cynical edge as he got successful. Just look at "THX 1138": it's very bleak even though it ends on a sort of positive not. Look at "A New Hope" and "Empire Strikes Back": in the former, you have Gran Moff Tarkin just having a whole planet destroyed. And, "Empire" was The Empire wins for 2 hours: Hoth gets taken over, Han is frozen and taken to Jabba, and Luke gets his hand chopped off and learns that Vader's his father. Then, by "Return Of The Jedi," Lucas was rich. And, we got Ewoks. Then, he got richer, and we got "Howard The Duck." Then, he becomes one of the richest producers of all time, and we get the Prequels. The richer he got, the happier he got, the less cynical he got, and the crappier his movies got. I know just makes me annoyed, the edgiest thing he did was have Anakin kill child-er-younglings in ROTS.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 2, 2010 0:02:38 GMT -5
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Post by biafra on Jan 2, 2010 0:15:38 GMT -5
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jan 2, 2010 0:45:35 GMT -5
George Lucas, I mean WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? He got total control of everything that's what happened, he's a great idea man and all but he really needs handlers. George Lucas is the Vince Russo of the Film world.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jan 2, 2010 1:15:45 GMT -5
Madonna
Global SUPER MEGA ULTRA star rivled only by Michael Jackson in terms of popularity in the '80s. To less relevant in the '90s. To "What ever happend to?" in the '00s.
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Post by Sickfit, King Of The Fits on Jan 2, 2010 1:17:27 GMT -5
Weezer. How the hell do you go from modern day classics like The Blue Album and Pinkerton to Raditude? I'm just gonna re-post this, as so I don't get lost in the shuffle...
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Post by tap on Jan 2, 2010 1:31:32 GMT -5
Seriously though, I've been disappointed by the last two Marilyn Manson albums. I haven't enjoyed any of them since The Golden Age Of Grotesque. I also thought the last two Fear Factory albums weren't very good, despite them being one of my top ten favorites. This, to a degree. I like Eat Me, Drink Me for personal reasons and I like The High End of Low for Manson becoming (somewhat) focused again, but I find it harder and harder to defend his hijinks and mediocre live performances.
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Post by paulbearer on Jan 2, 2010 2:06:02 GMT -5
Elvis in the 60s....... By 1974 or so Paul Bearer was waiting and rubbing his hands , counting down the days before Taker got him in 77
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Post by Joie De Vivre on Jan 2, 2010 3:54:00 GMT -5
Eddie Van Halen.
Most influential guitarist in the 80's, still highly revered in the 90's, but by this decade, he's a shell of his former self. I understand he's gone through cancer treatment, but despite claiming he has ,"Ten albums worth of material" he's only released three new songs, and two instrumentals for a porn film.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 2, 2010 12:04:38 GMT -5
Cuba Gooding Jr. From winning an Oscar to starring in an endless stream of poorly reviewed direct-to-DVD movies. I honestly have no idea what happened to this guy's career post-Jerry Maguire. if only he'd gotten a bigger part in Pearl Harbour. he's way better than Ben Affleck. Frank Miller's pretty much the posterboy for this in comics. his early Batman and Daredevil stuff still gets ripped off to this day because it was so definitive, but everything he's done in the last 15 years reads like something a five year old on a sugar rush would write. "Goddamn Batman" indeed. while I'm sure it's going to be good when it actually comes out, George R.R. Martin's popularity took a pretty big hit for making us wait 5+ years for the second half of the most recent Song of Ice and Fire book.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 2, 2010 12:05:39 GMT -5
Metallica since Cliff Burton and Dave Mustaine Er...you mean Metallica since The Black Album. I'm going to stray into the uncool and say that Death Magnetic was actually a good upturn for them though. I do believe that Linkin Park wins this by the way. except Linkin Park weren't even good in the first place. f***ing boy band with guitars.
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