Magnus the Magnificent
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jul 2, 2010 13:12:56 GMT -5
I read that Wrestlemania was originally going to be held at the LA Memorial Coliseum but there was supposedly talk of a terrorist act that was going to take place there. I wasn't sure if some would think that there would've been a sniper or a bombing take place, but the induction sure used the pun in such a good way. The fact that it was moved was more or less because had Wrestlemania been held at that stadium, it would've bombed in sales because not a lot of tickets were being sold, so it was held at the LA Memorial Sports Arena instead. As has been said many times, yes, they moved it because Vince was very scared there would be a bomb Oh, the ticket sales very much bombed, so Vince was right all along!
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Post by SAJ Forth on Jul 3, 2010 11:59:45 GMT -5
I love all these puns.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jul 5, 2010 1:26:01 GMT -5
I'm a Combat Infantry Veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I've been to war, been wounded and awarded a Purple Heart, and understand the reality of it more than the normal person would. Sorry if my comments sounded harsh, but it is what it is...I love each and every Soldier who's ever laid down their life for our country, but I also understand the difference between a real war and a simple skirmish, and thats all my point really ment. Well sir I thank you very much for your service. I do see your point and appreciate your perspective. I thought it sounded harsh at the time, but i see where your coming from, having been there first hand. Thanks again for all you do for our country. I appreciate your thanks.
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Post by FunkerCM on Aug 7, 2010 19:05:03 GMT -5
The angle was not, in my opinion, Wrestlecrap.
Slaughter was over and the matches he and Hogan had were surprisingly strong.
It also worked in getting the belt off the Warrior who had bombed.
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Post by ultimatekennedy on Aug 22, 2010 2:04:31 GMT -5
I remember Warrior saying in his shoot that he never heard of anyone making THAT big a deal about the angle, but there must have been some bruhaha about it for such crap ticket sales.
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Post by Toom E. Guci on Aug 22, 2010 2:49:34 GMT -5
I found the I Want My Country Back angle to be far more Wrestlecrap then the original.
I wasn't a Hogan fan, so I enjoyed the storyline very much....until Hogan got the damn belt back.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Aug 22, 2010 3:15:57 GMT -5
On page 317 of "The Death of WCW" which RD Reynolds co-wrote with Bryan Alvarez it's mentioned that along with Wrestlemania III, Wrestlemania VII was one of the two highest money making wrestling cards (for any promotion in any country) and that was as of 1995, 4 years after the event. So yes, the gimmick did get over and though I believe turning Sgt. Slaughter turncoat made zilcho sense, it was not in my opinion Wrestlecrap. That's a typo, it should read Wrestlemania VI. Which makes sense if you think about it. After all, which is more likely to be the second biggest Wrestlemania at that point in time: Hogan v Slaughter or Hogan v Warrior?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2010 17:57:38 GMT -5
I can understand why it got inducted in Wrestlecrap..but in some ways, it worked. Plus its not really Slaughter's idea. Slaughter had said that Hogan refused to work with anyone that would take away his crowd support, so he and Vince came up with the whole Iraqi Character. Are you implying that Vince had plans to have a face vs. face feud with Slaughter and Hogan, but Hogan didn't want anyone to take away his crowd support so they turned Slaughter heel? If you think that is true then I have some Enron stock that you might be interested in. First off, who in their right freakin' mind was going to cheer Slaughter over Hogan in 1991 (or ever)? Secondly, regarding Hogan not wanting to face anyone who could take his crowd support away.....um, do you realize he had a 3 month angle and eventually lost to the only wrestler of that era who ever came close to being as popular as him (Warrior)? That was like 9 months before the Slaughter/Hogan build-up began. You seem to be quoting Slaughter, so if that is what Slaughter said or implied, then he is full of crap. Slaughter would have put a jock strap over his head and played the role of Aldo Montoya if it meant he could get main event paydays against Hogan and Warrior. Slaughter had no business being in that spot, and not surprisingly the angle flopped. Slaughter's run in 90/91 was beyond bad. Crap, trash, garbage...whatever you want to call it. His rambling promos were horrendous and he was getting go away heat if anything. Like i mentioned on the Wrest forum, Flair debuted one year too late. He would have been perfect for the lead heel in late-90/early-91. They could have had the Hogan/Flair match at WM 7, and Slaughter could have done his stupid heel gimmick against Duggan in the mid-card.
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Post by JMA on Aug 24, 2010 14:31:38 GMT -5
I don't understand why they didn't just have him be "anti-America" rather than "pro-Iraq." When the angle started, he believed America had betrayed him by trusting "commies" like Volkoff--sort of sounding like an American Mussolini.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Sept 9, 2010 19:37:28 GMT -5
I don't understand why they didn't just have him be "anti-America" rather than "pro-Iraq." When the angle started, he believed America had betrayed him by trusting "commies" like Volkoff--sort of sounding like an American Mussolini. I think they blew it, that would have made more money. He was a bitter man after the end of the Cold War. Almost relic from another era of war, lost in a warp. It would have made sense, Slaughter's character was always similar to Hogan's in the fact that he was a "real american", and living, breathing GI Joe character. So it would have almost been like a warped Hogan vs the real Hogan. That would have been much more entertaining.
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Post by JMA on Sept 10, 2010 1:18:49 GMT -5
I don't understand why they didn't just have him be "anti-America" rather than "pro-Iraq." When the angle started, he believed America had betrayed him by trusting "commies" like Volkoff--sort of sounding like an American Mussolini. I think they blew it, that would have made more money. He was a bitter man after the end of the Cold War. Almost relic from another era of war, lost in a warp. It would have made sense, Slaughter's character was always similar to Hogan's in the fact that he was a "real american", and living, breathing GI Joe character. So it would have almost been like a warped Hogan vs the real Hogan. That would have been much more entertaining. Yeah, a sort of "Mirror Cracked" type of angle.
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Post by garretta on Sept 10, 2010 2:07:27 GMT -5
I always thought he should have just come back as the demented ex-Marine that he was during his younger days, incensed that the fans now cheered a "softer" champion after all he'd done for them in cleaning up all the foreign heels. Mention his past a bit (which they'd already done for Dusty and a few select others, either directly or by inference) and have him say things like "I beat up the Iron Sheik and sent him back to Allah with his tail between his legs, and you'd rather cheer a puke like Hogan?" Then do a run-in where Slaughter ambushes Hogan, whips him with the riding crop and puts him out with the cobra clutch. Or bring back the cobra clutch challenge and have Hogan almost break it after numerous others have failed, which leads to a beatdown Make the prize $25,000 to reflect inflation. As for the "commanding general", who else but the Brain? I know almost everybody who was any good went through him, but I don't think any of the other managers at the time would have fit. Besides, I'd get a kick out of seeing him in fatigues with a bunch of fake medals around his neck, and telling guys like Monsoon and Okerlund that they're diamissed. Another possibility if Heenan's neck acts up: Jimmy Hart. You could do a vignette where Slaughter promotes him from colonel to general, and the jacket that would be designed for him to wear to the ring with Sarge would no doubt be a classic.
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