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Post by Jason on Mar 16, 2010 15:20:04 GMT -5
I notice a lot of complaints about how WWE will die when Triple H takes over. Well, Triple H is a huge NWA mark, he knows pro wrestling and will most likely focus on that one thing after Vince steps down. Vince is all about turning it into a soap opera and being "sports entertainment". Triple H is all about the wrestling. I can't wait until he takes over and hopefully the product as a whole will change.
And yes, I fully believe that when Steph gets it, he will run it with her.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Mar 16, 2010 15:25:13 GMT -5
most people here pretty much let go of the dread awhile ago, and holding on to hope he'll do a better job than Vince and Co. right now. For reasons you already stated.
Shame as of now, it looks like in 15 - 20 years, we'll probably all be wondering, "what the hell ever happened to Shane McMahon" if he doesn't do something amazing by his own right.
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Post by Free Hat on Mar 16, 2010 16:01:53 GMT -5
It seems to me that it's been Steph's uninspired tenure as head of creative that's resulted in the stale, lifeless product of the last several years. While HHH may indeed exert some positive influence, it'll still be Steph's company when Vince retires, and I can't see the direction changing much.
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Post by nickm1002 on Mar 16, 2010 16:18:36 GMT -5
thats a great point my sir!!
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Mar 16, 2010 16:28:14 GMT -5
I like the product as it is to be honest. This has been one of the best Mania builds to years, and every PPV has delivered since No Mercy 2007. Their roster is full of young talent, and there have been some utterly fantastic feuds over the past few years. There's been some not so great ones too, but even in the 'glory days' there was the fair share of poor stuff served up, because it's simply impossible to please everyone and even what I term as poor, someone else probably loved.
So if HHH takes over, great. Maybe he'll be a little more serious and a little less soap opera. But what I mean by soap opera is Katie Vick or that Tracy woman calling the Undertaker out for cheating on his wife. But for the most part they've stopped that anyway. HBK/Taker is a serious wrestling storyline, with enough wrestling flash to fulfull it's entertainment requirements. A focus on the emotional journey of the wrestlers that leads to the issue developing between their rival is when a feud is good, and that's what they do, for the most part.
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Post by foreveryoung on Mar 16, 2010 16:28:46 GMT -5
What are his qualifications exactly for running a publicly traded billion dollar company exactly? As a matter of fact, what are Stephanies qualifications others than being the bosses daughter? She didnt exactly get to that position by her own merits? These two will NOT be good for running the company. Theres more to running WWE than pitching a few creative ideas for wrestlers. I wouldnt be surprised if once Vince dies the company within a few years ceases to exist.
There is a ton involved in running a company like WWE. Steph and Trips arent up for the job. Hell Stephanie cant even create an interesting wrestling product.
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Mar 16, 2010 16:33:00 GMT -5
What are his qualifications exactly for running a publicly traded billion dollar company exactly? As a matter of fact, what are Stephanies qualifications others than being the bosses daughter? She didnt exactly get to that position by her own merits? These two will NOT be good for running the company. Theres more to running WWE than pitching a few creative ideas for wrestlers. I wouldnt be surprised if once Vince dies the company within a few years ceases to exist Steph will take over the running of the business I'd say, and since the creative part is a large part of it, she'll do ok. She's the most similar to Vince and while she won't be exactly the same, I think she'll be able to steer the ship. She got a foot in the door through being Vince's daughter, and he grooms her to take over because he knows he can trust her. He's also more demanding of her than anyone else though, and I'd say that makes her more than qualified. HHH probably won't ever run the whole company, unless Steph dies soon after Vince or something. He'll learn more about the corporate side and maybe in 10 or 20 years he'll be able to take a more corporate role, but it's doubtful that he'd ever be able to run the business. Although maybe he will. There's no better learning experience than actually being in the company. If he's able to move up and satisfy the shareholders than he can do the job, then more power to him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2010 17:03:41 GMT -5
Vince McMahon's head (Futurama style) will run WWE in the future. If not then it'll be President Nixon's head running it.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 16, 2010 17:13:55 GMT -5
What are his qualifications exactly for running a publicly traded billion dollar company exactly? As a matter of fact, what are Stephanies qualifications others than being the bosses daughter? She didnt exactly get to that position by her own merits? These two will NOT be good for running the company. Theres more to running WWE than pitching a few creative ideas for wrestlers. I wouldnt be surprised if once Vince dies the company within a few years ceases to exist. There is a ton involved in running a company like WWE. Steph and Trips arent up for the job. Hell Stephanie cant even create an interesting wrestling product. Who do you think should be given the company then? The way you're talking it sounds like you're favoring putting traditional corporate businessmen in charge. I think anybody who was involved in WCW can tell you why thats a bad idea. Steph has been involved with the WWE in some way or another since she was born. She knows every aspect of the company as well as creative. Do you really think she's gonna walk into Titan Tower the day after Vince retires and say "wait a second, we have an accounting office?" Come on. And Triple H has been involved with the WWE for a good 15 years now as well, I'm sure he knows all of this stuff too.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 16, 2010 17:55:59 GMT -5
Stephanie is a huge supporter of "soap opera" style storylines (which I have no problem with, to a certain point). So I doubt those will be going away anytime soon, even after Vince passes on.
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Post by Haulk on Mar 16, 2010 18:07:54 GMT -5
I can't think of anyone more qualified to run creative than Helmsley. He has seen it all, depushes, crushed by main eventers, success, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2010 18:09:28 GMT -5
What are his qualifications exactly for running a publicly traded billion dollar company exactly? As a matter of fact, what are Stephanies qualifications others than being the bosses daughter? She didnt exactly get to that position by her own merits? These two will NOT be good for running the company. Theres more to running WWE than pitching a few creative ideas for wrestlers. I wouldnt be surprised if once Vince dies the company within a few years ceases to exist. There is a ton involved in running a company like WWE. Steph and Trips arent up for the job. Hell Stephanie cant even create an interesting wrestling product. What were Vince Jr's qualifications other than being the son of the owner of the WWWF?
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Post by Brian Suntan on Mar 16, 2010 19:04:08 GMT -5
God willing, by the time Vince is ready to give it up, Steph will have been learning how to run the business for the best part of 50 years.
If anyone would like to offer anyone else (not called Shane O'Mac) who'd have better and more relevant experience than that, go ahead.
Seriously, they'll be fine. The hard work has already been done by Vince a long time ago, now all they've got to do is keep the ship steady.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 16, 2010 19:12:59 GMT -5
What are his qualifications exactly for running a publicly traded billion dollar company exactly? As a matter of fact, what are Stephanies qualifications others than being the bosses daughter? She didnt exactly get to that position by her own merits? These two will NOT be good for running the company. Theres more to running WWE than pitching a few creative ideas for wrestlers. I wouldnt be surprised if once Vince dies the company within a few years ceases to exist. There is a ton involved in running a company like WWE. Steph and Trips arent up for the job. Hell Stephanie cant even create an interesting wrestling product. There are many different ways to run a business. Stephanie can be hands-on, but also delegate responsibilities to people who may have better minds for certain things. Lest we forget she's a pretty smart girl with a degree in business and that she's grown up in the family that ran the business she'll likely inherit. It's not like it's an outsider coming in to run a business. She's a McMahon, she has to know SOMETHING about how it's run. It's my hope that Steph will get burnt out and let HHH be the "Wrestling" mind of the company. He seems to have a better grasp of things.
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Post by foreveryoung on Mar 16, 2010 19:14:23 GMT -5
How about Jerry Jarrett? Definitely more qualified than Stephanie (The guy who was supposed to take over Vince's role in the early 90s when Vince thought he might go to jail?) Or hell even Bischoff? He can create more creative TV wrestling than Stephanie possibly could
If Stephanie running the entire company is any inclination of the same of how she has ran creative... bye bye WWE.
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Post by foreveryoung on Mar 16, 2010 19:22:06 GMT -5
What are his qualifications exactly for running a publicly traded billion dollar company exactly? As a matter of fact, what are Stephanies qualifications others than being the bosses daughter? She didnt exactly get to that position by her own merits? These two will NOT be good for running the company. Theres more to running WWE than pitching a few creative ideas for wrestlers. I wouldnt be surprised if once Vince dies the company within a few years ceases to exist. There is a ton involved in running a company like WWE. Steph and Trips arent up for the job. Hell Stephanie cant even create an interesting wrestling product. What were Vince Jr's qualifications other than being the son of the owner of the WWWF? Vince is light years ahead of Stephanie from a business perspective and creative perspective. Wayyy light years ahead in marketing than Stephanie could possibly ever be. Not to mention Vince surrounded himself with brilliant wrestling minds over the years. (Gorilla Monsoon, Pat Patterson, Tony Garea, Cornette, Goeorge Scott, Bruce Pritchard, Dusty Rhodes, even Paul Heyman for a while etc) Good luck trying to get an all star cast like that again. COmparing Stephanie to Vince is kind of...... out there
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Post by foreveryoung on Mar 16, 2010 19:24:46 GMT -5
What are his qualifications exactly for running a publicly traded billion dollar company exactly? As a matter of fact, what are Stephanies qualifications others than being the bosses daughter? She didnt exactly get to that position by her own merits? These two will NOT be good for running the company. Theres more to running WWE than pitching a few creative ideas for wrestlers. I wouldnt be surprised if once Vince dies the company within a few years ceases to exist. There is a ton involved in running a company like WWE. Steph and Trips arent up for the job. Hell Stephanie cant even create an interesting wrestling product. There are many different ways to run a business. Stephanie can be hands-on, but also delegate responsibilities to people who may have better minds for certain things. Lest we forget she's a pretty smart girl with a degree in business and that she's grown up in the family that ran the business she'll likely inherit. It's not like it's an outsider coming in to run a business. She's a McMahon, she has to know SOMETHING about how it's run. It's my hope that Steph will get burnt out and let HHH be the "Wrestling" mind of the company. He seems to have a better grasp of things. I obtained my Bachelor's in Business and English as well. That doesnt make me qualified to run a billion dollar publicly traded conglomerate
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 16, 2010 19:29:58 GMT -5
There are many different ways to run a business. Stephanie can be hands-on, but also delegate responsibilities to people who may have better minds for certain things. Lest we forget she's a pretty smart girl with a degree in business and that she's grown up in the family that ran the business she'll likely inherit. It's not like it's an outsider coming in to run a business. She's a McMahon, she has to know SOMETHING about how it's run. It's my hope that Steph will get burnt out and let HHH be the "Wrestling" mind of the company. He seems to have a better grasp of things. I obtained my Bachelor's in Business and English as well. That doesnt make me qualified to run a billion dollar publicly traded conglomerate No - but being involved in the day-to-day operations of that said company certainly makes you way more qualified. Also - for the record: who else graduated with a business degree and worked under their father for years before assuming control of the business? Vince himself. Folks who have been backstage say that Stephanie and Vince are very similar in their work style and attitude. I'd say she's probably the most qualified candidate out there. Also - Vince has surrounded himself with all stars...many of which will still be around when Vince surrenders control of the company. Let's be real, Vince is not too far off from 70. The WWE is in good hands for years to come.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 16, 2010 19:33:16 GMT -5
How about Jerry Jarrett? Definitely more qualified than Stephanie (The guy who was supposed to take over Vince's role in the early 90s when Vince thought he might go to jail?) Or hell even Bischoff? He can create more creative TV wrestling than Stephanie possibly could If Stephanie running the entire company is any inclination of the same of how she has ran creative... bye bye WWE. If you truly think Bischoff can create more creative television than Stephanie or Vince, you're just flat-out wrong. Bischoff fell into the nWo. Without the nWo, WCW would have died far sooner than it did. Bischoff's probably one of the most overrated wrestling minds in the history of the industry. Second only to Russo.
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Post by foreveryoung on Mar 16, 2010 19:37:51 GMT -5
How about Jerry Jarrett? Definitely more qualified than Stephanie (The guy who was supposed to take over Vince's role in the early 90s when Vince thought he might go to jail?) Or hell even Bischoff? He can create more creative TV wrestling than Stephanie possibly could If Stephanie running the entire company is any inclination of the same of how she has ran creative... bye bye WWE. If you truly think Bischoff can create more creative television than Stephanie or Vince, you're just flat-out wrong. Bischoff fell into the nWo. Without the nWo, WCW would have died far sooner than it did. Bischoff's probably one of the most overrated wrestling minds in the history of the industry. Second only to Russo. Why couldnt Bischoff create a more captivating product than Stephanie could? At least Bischoff has a few claim to fames. The NWO angle, Goldberg etc. What has Stephanie done from a creative standpoint that trumps this? Russo was a little out there.. But again.. he created a more creative wrestling product that DID bring more viewers in for Vince. Now whether alot of it was mostly filtered by Vince was another story. But from what I have seen with Steph's ability for creative.. Shes hardly the 2nd coming of Pat Patterson. There has been nothing from a creative standpoint that has came from Steph that you can indisputably say touched the masses like some of the stuff Russo did in the WWE or what Bischoff did in WCW
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