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Post by ThatDamnPotato on Mar 1, 2010 23:16:38 GMT -5
I shall answer that question even if it is rhetorical...Thats the thing ive watched him once...my mind ISNT made up im just unsure whether all this hype is worth it...is he really as good as the IWC make him out to be.
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Post by H-Fist on Mar 1, 2010 23:18:43 GMT -5
Bryan is my favorite active wrestler and in my opinion is among the best in-ring storytellers in North America today. That being said, I can see where he will meet challenges in WWE.
He is undersized, an inch or two shorter than Chris Jericho and Shawn Michaels areonce you take away the vets' lifts. He doesn't hit the tanning beds, which is a look that typically is only attempted by big and/or fat guys.
But over the last few years, ring work has started to matter. Well-built and large-of-stature competitors with limited skill have struggled to get over in an era where Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio and John Morrison (among others) have made athletic, aerial moves commonplace in the upper sections of the card. Fans - especially young ones and casual ones - want to see something new and different. That isn't necessarily a long-winded promo or a plodding battle of behemoths.
Bryan isn't one of those high fliers. But the high fliers (not to mention Eddie, Benoit, Jericho, and HBK) have opened the doors to undersized competitors who might be a foot shorter than the tallest guys on the roster. Once his skills and intensity are displayed, he can win over a crowd with his storytelling ability. His greatest strength is his ability to make the audience invest emotionally in everything about a match. He gets "it," which might be just as important as having "it."
Bryan's intensity isn't screaming and yelling and squatting green room furniture to get revved up. Rather, he does everything in the ring with the right amount of effort and emotion behind it.
Four years ago, he had the charisma to convince thousands of people that he was the "best wrestler in the world." Not that he had more in-ring knowledge and skill than anyone or was more dominant than anyone, but rather that his gimmick was "the best wrestler in the world, and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong" and he got it over.
On an indie scene that had Samoa Joe, Homicide, Alex Shelley, Desmond Wolfe, Chris Daniels, Austin Aries and others, he got that over. Going up against special challenges from Christian and Lance Storm, he got that over. When he even worked with the same Japanese company as Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi, KENTA, Naomichi Marufuji and others, he got that over with fans who were well aware of the other great wrestlers the world had to offer. One doesn't do that with wristlocks and suplexes. One does it with an attitude, a presence, that commands the attention of everyone in the room when he walks into it, not matter how easy it should be to look past him.
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Post by Krimzon on Mar 1, 2010 23:19:18 GMT -5
The bland looks really held down guys like Austin & Goldberg. I honestly think people underrate his ability to hold his own on the mic. He's no Rock, but he can get from Point A to Point B fairly well. And in the ring, the man is a true mat classic. I hope the Danielson Special becomes his finisher in the WWE. That move is a thing of beauty.
I still want him to come out to "Final Countdown."
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Post by KevFalcön07 on Mar 1, 2010 23:20:52 GMT -5
Does Charlie Daniels play a mean fiddle? LOL. Nice one! Danielson is excellence. He is the best at what he does in many people's eyes, and I also think he's awesome.
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Post by joeskvorecky on Mar 1, 2010 23:25:37 GMT -5
Bryan is my favorite active wrestler and in my opinion is among the best in-ring storytellers in North America today. That being said, I can see where he will meet challenges in WWE. He is undersized, an inch or two shorter than Chris Jericho and Shawn Michaels areonce you take away the vets' lifts. He doesn't hit the tanning beds, which is a look that typically is only attempted by big and/or fat guys. But over the last few years, ring work has started to matter. Well-built and large-of-stature competitors with limited skill have struggled to get over in an era where Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio and John Morrison (among others) have made athletic, aerial moves commonplace in the upper sections of the card. Fans - especially young ones and casual ones - want to see something new and different. That isn't necessarily a long-winded promo or a plodding battle of behemoths. Bryan isn't one of those high fliers. But the high fliers (not to mention Eddie, Benoit, Jericho, and HBK) have opened the doors to undersized competitors who might be a foot shorter than the tallest guys on the roster. Once his skills and intensity are displayed, he can win over a crowd with his storytelling ability. His greatest strength is his ability to make the audience invest emotionally in everything about a match. He gets "it," which might be just as important as having "it." Bryan's intensity isn't screaming and yelling and squatting green room furniture to get revved up. Rather, he does everything in the ring with the right amount of effort and emotion behind it. Four years ago, he had the charisma to convince thousands of people that he was the "best wrestler in the world." Not that he had more in-ring knowledge and skill than anyone or was more dominant than anyone, but rather that his gimmick was "the best wrestler in the world, and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong" and he got it over. On an indie scene that had Samoa Joe, Homicide, Alex Shelley, Desmond Wolfe, Chris Daniels, Austin Aries and others, he got that over. Going up against special challenges from Christian and Lance Storm, he got that over. When he even worked with the same Japanese company as Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi, KENTA, Naomichi Marufuji and others, he got that over with fans who were well aware of the other great wrestlers the world had to offer. One doesn't do that with wristlocks and suplexes. One does it with an attitude, a presence, that commands the attention of everyone in the room when he walks into it, not matter how easy it should be to look past him. +1
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Mar 1, 2010 23:27:53 GMT -5
The bland looks really held down guys like Austin & Goldberg. I honestly think people underrate his ability to hold his own on the mic. He's no Rock, but he can get from Point A to Point B fairly well. And in the ring, the man is a true mat classic. I hope the Danielson Special becomes his finisher in the WWE. That move is a thing of beauty. I still want him to come out to "Final Countdown." He really is underrated on the mic. He's not amazingly, out of this world spectacular, but he's FAR from shit on the mic, and is better than most of the guys currently getting a ton of mic time in the WWE, if a bit more low key in how he goes about getting his point across.
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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 1, 2010 23:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 1, 2010 23:42:35 GMT -5
I really wonder why they cleaned up his look the way he did. I thought the whole long shaggy hair and beard thing would have worked. I still wonder if they had him shave and all that just so he could eventually "evolve" into that and become his own man, so to speak. We'll see.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 1, 2010 23:54:31 GMT -5
Having watched the guy progress from 2002 through today, I can tell you, with no hesitation, that Danielson/Daniel Bryan (whatever) is the most intelligent wrestler I've seen in a wrestling ring in eons, not to mention one of the most physically gifted.
Believe the hype. He's in a class all his own.
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Post by Mac on Mar 1, 2010 23:56:50 GMT -5
How can he be any more bland than the new guys they've horse shoveled down our throats?
Guys like McIntyre and Sheamus do nothing expect quote old school heel versus and act like jerks and they've been IC and WWE champions respectively.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Mar 2, 2010 0:06:04 GMT -5
The bland looks really held down guys like Austin & Goldberg. I honestly think people underrate his ability to hold his own on the mic. He's no Rock, but he can get from Point A to Point B fairly well. And in the ring, the man is a true mat classic. I hope the Danielson Special becomes his finisher in the WWE. That move is a thing of beauty. I still want him to come out to "Final Countdown." He really is underrated on the mic. He's not amazingly, out of this world spectacular, but he's FAR from s*** on the mic, and is better than most of the guys currently getting a ton of mic time in the WWE, if a bit more low key in how he goes about getting his point across. i've been looking for more excuses to post this: www.dailymotion.com/video/x8v3sc_bryan-danielson-cuts-a-promo-on-ecw_auto(warning: language)
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Post by H-Fist on Mar 2, 2010 0:46:46 GMT -5
How can he be any more bland than the new guys they've horse shoveled down our throats? I'm kind of proud of the live crowds who got Eric Escobar off my TV within a matter of weeks. The level of apathy towards him exceeded years of Michelle McCool and came darn close to Conwavian levels of non-love. It was like seeing a kid take off the training wheels and ride on two wheels for the first time and immediately ride over to the concession stand. Times 12,000.
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Post by wcw on Mar 2, 2010 2:45:21 GMT -5
His low end will be a Dean Malenko or Lance Storm 2.0 just a good in ring guy who never quite makes it past the mid or upper mid card.
His high end will be a Bret Hart kind of guy. No matter how much he lacks in mic ability (Compared to other top guys) his wrestling ability is just so great that he gets insanely over.
He will likely end up being a Chris Benoit (With out the ugly stuff) kind of guy. Over at times a couple of title reigns teasing that he has never won the big one. Upper mid card guy with 5 star matches and a nice run here or there with a few World Title victories to his credit.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 2, 2010 2:56:18 GMT -5
He really is underrated on the mic. He's not amazingly, out of this world spectacular, but he's FAR from s*** on the mic, and is better than most of the guys currently getting a ton of mic time in the WWE, if a bit more low key in how he goes about getting his point across. i've been looking for more excuses to post this: www.dailymotion.com/video/x8v3sc_bryan-danielson-cuts-a-promo-on-ecw_auto(warning: language) Yep... he's awesome.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Mar 2, 2010 3:13:23 GMT -5
I think he looks like a younger, smaller verison of Bob Backlund.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2010 5:08:39 GMT -5
His mic skills are fine and will only get better with time.
He does have a bland look, but that's delibrate, if you gave the Miz a plain pair of trunks and a 50 cent haircut he would have a bland look. His gimmick is of some great well traveled wrestler who looks like an accountant who will learn charisma though the magic of NXT or something.
As for size, well I think the government are going to be keeping their eyes on the WWE for a long, long time....expect to see more and more pushes to average sized guys.
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Post by Orange on Mar 2, 2010 5:26:52 GMT -5
Alright now I don't follow ROH (I watch a match here and there, but I don't follow it a lot) so I hadn't seen anything of Danielson outside of NXT. I didn't think he was that great of a talker until he actually got out into the ring and cut the promo with Miz. He looked bland to me at first, but I think he's got enough personality and obviously wrestling skills to get him by in the WWE. I don't know if we will ever see him headlining Wrestlemania, but he is a solid wrestler that impressed me, a pretty much first time viewer of the guy.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 2, 2010 11:48:23 GMT -5
I think he looks like a younger, smaller verison of Bob Backlund. He deliberately played that up in ROH; used to walk out in a Bob Backlund style ring robe and started using the Crossface Chickenwing as one of his many finishers.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 2, 2010 12:19:11 GMT -5
He's about as good a storyteller as Cena and HHH, just based around speed and submissions rather than power and muscle.
He also projects a confidence in his promos and body language that keeps him over with crowds, but he's more the type of star who appeals to wrestling devotees, rather than a flashier character like Miz who is geared towards newer fans, which is why I like their pairing so far.
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Mar 2, 2010 12:22:01 GMT -5
I dunno... sure he can wrestle...but as of yet ive seen no Charisma he looks bland he sounds bland he just is generally...bland except for his wrestling skills ive not watched any of his indie matches you tell me is the hype really worth it? They told you he was bland and that's what you see. That's how the WWE rolls. I think his wrestling skill and his work in the ring will make a LOT of believers. Depending on who he wrestles.
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