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Post by Hugh Mungus on Mar 13, 2010 1:25:21 GMT -5
I've been thinking now on what happened to the original 1985-86 Big Gold Belt.
Ric Flair, after being fired from WCW, kept the belt because Jim Herd refused to pay Flair the $25,000 deposit, plus interest.
And this is where it gets confusing:
*Flair, in his first DVD and autobiography, said that WCW paid him the deposit, plus interest, and returned the belt to WCW. *In the second Flair DVD release, Flair claimed that WCW never gave him the deposit and kept it, and gave said belt to Triple H. *In Flair's autobiography, he said that Hogan kept the BGB (the "Hogan Memorial Belt" from BATB 2000, unless that belt was a copy of one). *Scott Steiner may or may not have it in his collection (again, might be a duplicate of it)
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Post by Chainsaw on Mar 13, 2010 1:27:15 GMT -5
I like the idea that Steiner just randomly has it. Possibly in his garage under a stack of old issues of Popular Mechanics.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 13, 2010 2:26:23 GMT -5
It's probably in the basement of Titans Tower between Edge and Christian's old Time Machine and a stack of boxes containing the Betamax release of "Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n' Wrestling".
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 13, 2010 2:34:30 GMT -5
I've always heard Scott Steiner has it, I think the story is that he supposedly replaced the original with a replica during his title reign and kept it.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Mar 13, 2010 2:54:09 GMT -5
I've always heard Scott Steiner has it, I think the story is that he supposedly replaced the original with a replica during his title reign and kept it. That's wrong but cool at the same time. Because he's so absurd to have it. You'd think either Flair or Hogan or Sting would have the real damn thing. Don't companies go through more than one belt usually anyway?
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Post by neal on Mar 13, 2010 3:16:03 GMT -5
By all accounts, Steiner has it. It's sitting on a shelf in his home along with a version of the WCW TV belt he never held. Scott and Teddy Long get their belts using the five finger discount.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Mar 13, 2010 5:56:35 GMT -5
I thought Hacksaw sold the TV Belt on ebay
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Post by neal on Mar 13, 2010 8:20:14 GMT -5
I thought Hacksaw sold the TV Belt on ebay DIFFERENT version of the tv belt. Steiner has the version with all those straight lines at an angle.
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Post by Jim Stansel on Mar 13, 2010 8:50:12 GMT -5
I thought Hacksaw sold the TV Belt on ebay DIFFERENT version of the tv belt. Steiner has the version with all those straight lines at an angle. Straight lines at an angle? my brain hurts
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Post by jobsquad on Mar 13, 2010 15:45:00 GMT -5
Wait....I thought Hogan got the big gold that has been in use since the early 90's when Russo shot on him? Then Booker got a new belt, and eventually Steiner got the new belt as well? It always looked like big gold could have been big silver in reality, and the newer one that the WWE version is based off of was the one originally worn by Booker T?
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Mar 13, 2010 15:53:55 GMT -5
Yeah we need more info on this.
So Steiner supposedly has the real belt that Flair originally had when he jumped to the then WWF?
So what did Booker T have? Does Hogan have anything? And the belt now...hell is it?
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Mar 13, 2010 16:29:32 GMT -5
I've always heard Scott Steiner has it, I think the story is that he supposedly replaced the original with a replica during his title reign and kept it. It's wrong, but awesome if Steiner actually did that. I tend to think it's true because he's the kind of guy who would do something like that.
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Post by rk9295 on Mar 13, 2010 16:40:26 GMT -5
Here is what I could find, don't know about accuracy, quotes taken from a website:
According to IMDB: "In what was one of the biggest slaps to the face of his career, Hogan was scheduled to face Jeff Jarrett for the WCW Heaveyweight Title. Hogan was supposed to win the title, however Vince Russo (who was the head booker at the time) decided to have Jeff Jarrett lie down and allow Hogan to win and then send Hogan home. Russo created another title and proceeded to carry on without Hogan. Hogan was never seen in WCW again. He still has the belt."
"on a biography of Hogan, when he was speaking, i saw in the background a WCW World Title Belt, and it had a dent in the top."
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 14, 2010 0:01:24 GMT -5
Wait....I thought Hogan got the big gold that has been in use since the early 90's when Russo shot on him? Then Booker got a new belt, and eventually Steiner got the new belt as well? It always looked like big gold could have been big silver in reality, and the newer one that the WWE version is based off of was the one originally worn by Booker T? Nah, when the BATB thing happened, they were using a new one as the original was falling apart. Hogan left with the new version and Booker won the original.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 14, 2010 0:51:05 GMT -5
Ok there was more the one big gold belt. The one Steiner has is not the orginal talked about from the 80s. Here is a pic of the orginal held by Steamboat. Notice the name plate is not removable like the others. Flair name is ingraved in the belt itself. The one Steiner has more the likely looks like this. Hogan with it one from 95. The name plate is different with a smooth flat look.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Mar 14, 2010 1:37:19 GMT -5
Ok there was more the one big gold belt. The one Steiner has is not the orginal talked about from the 80s. Here is a pic of the orginal held by Steamboat. Notice the name plate is not removable like the others. Flair name is ingraved in the belt itself. The one Steiner has more the likely looks like this. Hogan with it one from 95. The name plate is different with a smooth flat look. I didn't know that the original BGB's name plate was not removable. EDIT: On Steamboat's official webpage, notice that the nameplate was removed from the BGB. And the "Hogan 94" belt also served as the WCW International WHC, amirite?
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Post by Snake "The Jake" Roberts on Mar 14, 2010 16:38:43 GMT -5
I'd like to think that Scot Steiner has it and it's sitting on the mantle over his fireplace right now.
Can I really date one of those models at the top of the screen? I rather fancy the one on the right.
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Post by neal on Mar 14, 2010 16:54:35 GMT -5
Good grief, the belt Steamboat is holdinbg is the same one Steiner held. The "Ric Flair" name plate WAS a seperate piece, it was bolted through the back. When it was removed, they made all the new name plates to be fasted through the front of the belt. I got that directly from the folks that made the dang thing.
Steiner has the belt. Case closed!
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Post by Snake "The Jake" Roberts on Mar 14, 2010 16:58:45 GMT -5
Good grief, the belt Steamboat is holdinbg is the same one Steiner held. The "Ric Flair" name plate WAS a seperate piece, it was bolted through the back. When it was removed, they made all the new name plates to be fasted through the front of the belt. I got that directly from the folks that made the dang thing. Steiner has the belt. Case closed! So, what you're saying is there was one continuous belt used from Flair in '88 to Steiner's condo today?
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Post by Snake "The Jake" Roberts on Mar 14, 2010 17:00:31 GMT -5
The belt Hogan had was flat because Stan Hanson drove over it with his four-wheeler.
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