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Post by Gillberg: 0-175 on May 17, 2007 23:04:20 GMT -5
What if WCW bought out Paul Heyman?
The setting would take place after Russo was fired from WCW. After accquiring all of Paulie's big names, and losing the others to the WWF, what if he sold ECW to WCW and took over creatively? Seems neat, and not that unrealistic. While Paul had vendettas against Bisch, he would be gone and Paul would have a bigger stage and more money to play with.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 18, 2007 7:46:28 GMT -5
While a neat idea in theory, it violates a rule I have for Re-Writing The Book concepts: the "what if" question being posed must spring from a real moment where the outcome I explore is possible. We all know that Heyman would've rather set his genitals on fire then do business with the WCW organization (he hated the whole company, not just Bischoff), and there was never even a rumor of this happening, so that more or less puts the kibosh on this particular idea.
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Post by erik316wttn on May 18, 2007 8:34:54 GMT -5
How about a "What if Shawn Michaels hadnt retired after WM 14?"
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 18, 2007 8:47:54 GMT -5
That is an idea I've considered. Obviously, it'd have to be as a result of not taking the bump on the coffin at RR'98. I can't say it's coming up, as I've got the next four or five ideas chosen. But perhaps down the line.
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Post by erik316wttn on May 18, 2007 9:06:37 GMT -5
I also somewhere down the line would like to see "What if DX had reformed in 2002?"
I never had been so pissed at a wrestling angle than I was at that.
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Post by Gillberg: 0-175 on May 18, 2007 9:48:28 GMT -5
I didn't know he hated the whole corp. and not just Bisch. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought it would have been phesable, but I guess not lol.
It came to me last night after reading some old ECW on TNN results and they weren't so bad, and it seemed like the feuds woulda worked great for WCW.
And that Horseman thing is pathetic. Who requested that because seriously I want to go search their IP and personally cut them off from the Internet.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 18, 2007 9:49:22 GMT -5
He was fired pre-Bischoff if memory serves, so his grudge more extends to the company. They represented everything he believed was wrong in wrestling.
Can't say that idea holds a lot of appeal for me. The WWF was in a real down period, and I'd kinda tuned out of regular viewing because it sucked so much.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on May 18, 2007 12:25:35 GMT -5
I knew Heyman hated all of WCW. I mean, he got fired before Bischoff took over.
Also, I have an idea for Rewriting the Book (everyone else gave their ideas, so I figured I'll share one as well): What if Shawn Michaels hadn't lost his smile?
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 18, 2007 12:34:30 GMT -5
Lots of Shawn Michaels stories being suggested. If I didn't know any better, I'd say something was up.
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Post by Goldenbane on May 18, 2007 12:39:23 GMT -5
I have no idea if any of these would be good...but here goes nothing:
1. What if Ted Dibiase and the Underfaker had defeated Paul Bearer and the Undertaker at Summerslam '94?
2. What if Hulk Hogan had failed to win the belt from Yokozuna at Wrestlemania 9?
3. What if the Ultimate Warrior had fueded with Jake the Snake Roberts and Undertaker? (Rather than leaving/being fired/whatever actually happened.)
4. What if Sting had never become his "crow" persona during the NWO invasion?
5. What if Owen Hart had defeated Bret for the WWF title?
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Post by Joe Laracuente WAS WRONG on May 18, 2007 12:41:20 GMT -5
I'm sure Jed gets the "What if Hulk Hogan had failed to win the belt from Yokozuna at Wrestlemania 9?" all the time LOL
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 18, 2007 12:59:01 GMT -5
I'm sure Jed gets the "What if Hulk Hogan had failed to win the belt from Yokozuna at Wrestlemania 9?" all the time LOL Actually, usually people just want to see what would've happened if Hogan never came out in the first place. Jed Shaffer ~Maybe this weekend, I should post the entire list on here, just so you guys could see what I have to choose from.
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Post by default on May 18, 2007 13:55:58 GMT -5
I'd love to see an April Fool's column next year. Something like "What if Blade & RD were Fake Razor & Deisel?" and they go on to win the WWF, IC and Tag Team belts... with Razor Blade marrying Stephanie McMahon and Big Daddy Deal bodyslamming Mabel in the first ever match on the moon.
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Post by JLAJRC on May 18, 2007 14:05:21 GMT -5
Probably the most obvious, but what if the Montreal Screwjob never happened?
What if Andre the Giant had won at Wrestlemania 3?
What if Sting won at Starcade 1997?
What if Lex Lugar won the WWF Title?
What if Goldberg and Brock Lesnar had not left after Wrestlemania XX?
Also, you could rewrite the Invasion storyline your way.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 19, 2007 11:19:14 GMT -5
Probably the most obvious, but what if the Montreal Screwjob never happened? Did it. But I'm not satisfied with it, so it's getting re-written. Or, re-re-written. I believe I have the first two on the list. The Luger idea, I've got it for WrestleMania X, if that's when you meant. The last one ... not too big on. Did this one, too. Also unsatisfactorily. Needs some revisions. One day, once I edit it and tighten it up, it'll get reposted. Jed Shaffer ~Just so y'all know ... I have more ideas then will probably get done. 120 or so. Seriously.
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Post by JMA on May 19, 2007 18:27:32 GMT -5
What if the Alliance defeated the WWF at Survivor Series 2001?
What if Hulk Hogan defeated The Ultimate Warrior at WrestleMania VI?
What if Savage had defeated Hogan at WrestleMania V?
What if the Mega-Powers DIDN'T explode?
What if Taz never left ECW?
What if Stevie Richards had won the ECW World Championship at Barely Legal?
What if WCW had went out of business in 1993?
What if Sting squashed Hogan at Starrcade 1997?
What if Goldberg defeated Nash at Starrcade 1998?
What if Bret Hart went to WCW in 1996?
What if Hogan wasn't the third man in the nWo?
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Post by JLAJRC on May 19, 2007 19:19:24 GMT -5
I believe I have the first two on the list. The Luger idea, I've got it for WrestleMania X, if that's when you meant. The last one ... not too big on. [. You can also use their Summerslam match if you want. Other ideas: What if Bret Hart had beat the British Bulldog at Summerslam 92? What if Ted Dibiase had won the title at Wrestlemania 4? What if Chyna was WWE Champion? What if Vader won the WWF championship? What if Rick Martel didn't turn on Tito Santana at WM 5? What if DDP won his feud with the Undertaker? What if something else burst out of the egg at Survivor Series ? What if someone else besides Vince McMahon was the mysterious power in the Ministry of Darkness story? What if someone else besides Flair was the Black Scorpion? What if Madusa never threw the WWE Women's title in the trash on Nitro? What if Wendi Richter wasn't screwed out of the Women's title? What if Mike Tyson had turned on Steve Austin at Wrestlemania 14? What if Bam Bam Bigelow won his match against Lawrence Taylor? What if Sid Justice or Hulk Hogan had won the 1992 Royal Rumble? What if Roddy Piper won the WWE championship? What if Eric Bischoff was able to buy WCW? What if Lita had never cheated on Matt Hardy with Edge? What if Lita cheated on Matt Hardy with someone else? What if Bret Hart won his Iron Man Match with Shawn Michaels? What if Shawn Michaels had won the WM X Ladder Match? What if Shawn Michaels never turned on Marty Jannetty? What if the Smoking Guns never broke up? What if a football player won the Wrestlemania 2 battle royale? What if the NWO storyline had a definite ending? What if Ken Patera was never arrested? What if Stephanie McMahon had married Test? What if Lita had Kane's baby? What if Tully Blanchard rejoined the Horsemen instead of Paul Roma joining? I know that's alot, but I was bored and feeling creative.
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Post by JLAJRC on May 19, 2007 19:31:34 GMT -5
Here's five more:
What if Kevin Nash and Scott Hall never left the WWF? What if Rocky Maivia never joined the Nation of Domination? What if Steve Austin never won King of the Ring? What if Magnum TA wasn't in that car accident? What if Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson, and Ric Flair never left the NWA/WCW for the WWF?
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on May 20, 2007 10:47:18 GMT -5
Since y'all are goin' nuts with the ideas here, let me show you my master list of ideas I refer to:
For WWF/E: 1. … Bret never left the WWF? 2. … the Alliance had won at Survivor Series 2001? 3. … Kurt Angle had forfeited the World Title before WrestleMania XIX? 4. … the MSG incident never happened? 5. … Lex Luger had won the World Title as WrestleMania X? 6. … Shane Douglas, Rey Misterio, Billy Kidman and Konnan had come to WWF with the Radicalz? 7. … Eddie Guerrero hadn’t dislocated his elbow in his WWE debut? 8. … Lex Luger had not jumped ship in ’95? 9. … Austin hadn’t broken his neck at SummerSlam ’97? 10. … Owen Hart hadn’t died? 11. … Scott Hall & Kevin Nash had not jumped to WCW in ’96? 12. … Brian Pillman hadn’t died? 13. … Bret Hart had lost against The Undertaker at SummerSlam ’97? 14. … Triple H hadn’t ruptured his quad in 2001? 15. … Mick Foley had retired in November ’99? 16. … Vince McMahon had been found guilty in his steroid trial? 17. … Steve Austin had lost the “First Blood-End Of An Era” match to The Undertaker? 18. … Shawn Michaels had never forfeited the World Title in February ’97? 19. … Mick Foley had followed through and quit after Survivor Series ’97? 20. … Shawn Michaels had walked for good in June ’97? 21. … Bret beat Yokozuna at WrestleMania IX? 22. … Brock Lesner’s neck was too injured to continue at WrestleMania XIX? 23. … Hall, Nash, Hogan and the rest were WWF plants to kill the company? 24. … Vince adhered to the stipulations of the End Of An Era match and never appeared on WWF programming again? 25. … Steve Austin never recovered from the Owen-Driver? 26. … Bret Hart won the coin flip at WrestleMania X? 27. … Mankind hadn’t taken the Hell In A Cell bump? 28. … Vince Russo hadn’t left for WCW? 29. … Ric Flair never left the WWF in 1993? 30. … Arnold Skaaland hadn’t thrown in the towel for Bob Backlund? 31. … Cactus Jack had beaten Triple H in the Hell In A Cell? 32. … Shawn had hit Bret with the chair at SummerSlam ’97 and was forced to never wrestle in the US again? 33. … Austin had submitted in the submission match against Bret? 34. … Austin never came back from his first walk-out of the WWE? 35. … Bam Bam’s tainted victory over Bret at KOTR ’93 wasn’t overturned? 36. … Vader had beaten Shawn Michaels at Summerslam ’96? 37. … Jake Roberts beat Steve Austin for the King Of The Ring in ’96? 38. … Bret had submitted to Austin in the Submission match? 39. … Hennig had chosen a side at SummerSlam ’92? 40. … Shawn Michaels didn’t have to retire after WM 14? 41. … Honky Tonk Man had jobbed to Randy Savage as planned? 42. … Bret had beaten Shawn at WM 12? 43. … Hogan had beat the Warrior at WM6? 44. … Vince hadn’t vacated the World Title after he won it? 45. … Chris Benoit’s World Title defeat of The Rock at Fully Loaded 2000 hadn’t been overturned? 46. … HHH hadn’t joined forces with Austin & McMahon after WM 17? 47. … Hogan never challenged Yokozuna at WM 9? 48. … Savage had beaten Hogan at WM 5? 49. … Stephanie had chosen Kurt over HHH in 2000? 50. … Kane had lost the First Blood match at KOTR ’98 and had to set himself on fire? 51. … Flair had beaten Vince for total ownership of the WWF? 52. … Mick Foley had won at WrestleMania 2000? 53. … Harley Race hadn’t injured himself against Hulk Hogan? 54. … Owen beat Shawn at the Feb. ’96 IYH before WM 12? 55. … Mick had beaten Shawn for the title as planned at Mind Games? 56. … Orton & Batista didn’t get injured in Feb. 2003? 57. … HHH didn’t turn on DX at WM15?
For WCW: 1. … Sting had joined the New World Order during Fall Brawl/War Games ’96? 2. … Bret Hart had been the third man at Bash At The Beach ’96 3. … Goldberg had not lost to Kevin Nash at Starrcade ’98? 4. … the Radicalz had never left? 5. … Goldberg hadn’t caused Bret’s career-ending concussion at Starrcade ‘99? 6. … Ric Flair hadn’t left WCW/NWA in 1991? 7. … someone else had been The Black Scorpion besides Ric Flair? 8. … Bischoff had bought WCW in 2001? 9. … Team WCW had won at Uncensored ’97? 10. … the Bash At The Beach 2000 Hogan/Russo incident didn’t end with a shoot? 11. … Hulk Hogan never went to WCW? 12. … Austin never hurt his triceps in Japan? 13. … Ric Flair dropped the title on the way out of WCW in 1991 as originally planned? 14. … Magnum TA didn’t get in his car accident? 15. … the Sid-Arn scissors attack never happened? 16. … Vince Russo had turned WCW around? (Ron Motta) 17. … Baby Doll revealed what was in the envelope? 18. … Bischoff’s lawsuit against Flair was successful in keeping him out of WCW? 19. … Ric Flair had lost the “I Quit” match to Terry Funk? 20. … Sting had beaten Hogan for the World Title at Starrcade ’97 cleanly? 21. … Benoit had lost to Kevin Sullivan in their “loser-must-retire” match? 22. … Bischoff wasn’t removed as President in 1999? 23. … The Apocalypse storyline had gone ahead? 24. … Luger had beaten Flair at GAB ’88? 25. … Flair had beaten Sting at GAB ’90? (Michael Palmer) 26. … the Millionaire’s Club/New Blood storyline had worked out? 27. … Sting had taken the opportunity to leave WCW in ’95? 28. … Flair beat Hogan in their retirement match at Halloween Havoc ’94? 29. … Raven hadn’t walked out? 30. … Harley Race didn’t leave after Starrcade ’83? 31. … Flair had followed Arn & Tully in ’88 to WWF? 32. … the British Bulldog had jumped to WCW in September 1996 as planned? 33. … Race had jumped ship the night before Starrcade ’83?
For ECW: 1. … Tod Gordon’s secret invasion of WCW had been successful? 2. … Douglas kept the NWA Title? 3. … TNN had supported and promoted ECW to the fullest extent? 4. … Heyman couldn’t use Taz to get the title off of Awesome in ’00? 5. … Tommy Dreamer followed Cactus Jack and gave up being hardcore? 6. … Mick Foley never left ECW in ’96? 7. … Mike Awesome refused to return to drop the ECW Title in 2000? 8. … Sabu didn’t break his neck at November To Remember ’94? 9. … Kurt Angle had signed with ECW during his very brief stint? 10. … the “Mass Transit Incident” had resulted in Erich Kulas’ death? 11. … the “Mass Transit Incident” never happened? 12. … the Dudleyz left ECW with the Tag Titles? 13. … another network picked up ECW? 14. … it had been Stevie Richards’ baby? 15. … Paul Heyman had gone to WWF after leaving WCW instead of helping create ECW? 16. … RVD wasn’t injured in 2000? 17. … Raven didn’t leave in 1997?
The list used to be more then double this size. I had over 250 ideas at one point, but I realized I'd never write the column long enough to write them all. So, I trimmed it down to the ones I liked. Anything not on the list ... well, I won't say there's no chance of it happening, but the likelihood is small. As you can see, even with the above list, I'd have to write this column for a couple decades to finish them all.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on May 20, 2007 11:09:23 GMT -5
Great list. There are a lot of stories on that list that I would like to read.
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