Jeremy
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Post by Jeremy on Jul 4, 2010 11:59:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2010 12:03:08 GMT -5
I don't know what it is, but every successive fight Brock wins, I think that it's more likely that he's going to lose the one that follows. Can't wait to see who it is he faces next.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Jul 4, 2010 12:10:52 GMT -5
If Cain Velasquez has patience, and picks Lesnar apart standing. Then Cain can beat him. Although I'm not sure how Cain is off his back, which is where I'm sure he'll end up. He also is giving up 20 pounds to him, and Brock is quick for his size.
In a rematch with Carwin. I think Carwin could take it, if didn't put all his eggs in one basket like he did last time. Better conditioning and submission defense and Carwin could have Lesnar's number.
JDS I see in the same vein as Cain Velasquez, except that JDS probably has a better ground game then him. Roy Nelson could be interesting because he has punching power and very good BJJ.
Fedor could easily win a stand up match with Brock. He also has the skill to submit him. I think he would be Brock's biggest test out of all the potential contenders but I'm not sure if Fedor has interest in ever going to the UFC.
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Post by domrep on Jul 4, 2010 12:15:32 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I have to laugh at this "Brock will dominate for YEARS" talk. I know I sound like I'm from the "If Wishes were Horses" brigade but IF Carwin doesn't gas and IF we had ANY OTHER REF but Josh Rosenthal last night, that fight doesn't get out of the first round when Carwin was hammering Lesnar (Not saying it's right, just stating the facts) As for who can beat him? I'm with T Vang. If Lesnar doesn't take him down early, Velasquez will crush him standing up Liddell dominated the Light Heavyweight Division for what...2 years? It's entirely possible Brock can do it, and the man is bigger and stronger, and faster than Chuck.
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Post by acid on Jul 4, 2010 12:33:34 GMT -5
I honestly think Brock would tear through Fedor. Merely my opinion.
Anyone can be beaten. If they were to fight again, Carwin could possibly do it. Cain has a shot. A sick side of me would like to see Roy Nelson fight Brock. Nothing against Nelson but I don't think he could win against Brock. But the visual would be pretty neat.
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Post by Cela on Jul 4, 2010 13:07:18 GMT -5
Let go down the list
Velasquez- A smaller more efficient version of Brock with improved striking. Might be underestimated and surprise Lesnar. I seriously hope this doesn't happen, as I dislike Cain with a passion.
JDS- According to MMAth, the number 1 fighter in the world. Has impressive striking and decent ground defense. If Brock has a weakness its in his standup, could possibly catch him, or be tackled and punched repeatedly.
Fedor- If he signs, alwys a possibility. Then again, he might be too small.
Nog- If he regains some coherency after the Cain fight and wins via usual fashion, or not.
Nelson- Brock underestimates him... massively. Probably not.
Mir- Gains MORE muscle mass, works on clinchwork.
Carwin- Referee stops the fight/trains moe cardio, punches o the body a bit to get Lesnar to lower hands.
Dan Hardy- Hell, the UFC could hype him for anything.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Jul 4, 2010 14:18:42 GMT -5
Roy Nelson. I'm telling you big country will take the belt
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Jul 4, 2010 15:31:31 GMT -5
Alistair Overeem. He will just knock Brock down over and over without even needing to go to the ground until Brock cant take it anymore. That fight showed large gaps in Brocks striking, and its a testament to both his offensive and defensive groundwork that he got through that fight.
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Post by xtremehorseman on Jul 4, 2010 15:40:05 GMT -5
I think Cain has a good shot but his size might be a factor. I would take Carwin in a rematch. Also it has not been talked about just how bad Brock looked standing, he looked like an amateur.
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Post by T Vang is a HO-DADDY~! on Jul 4, 2010 15:50:03 GMT -5
If Cain Velasquez has patience, and picks Lesnar apart standing. Then Cain can beat him. Although I'm not sure how Cain is off his back, which is where I'm sure he'll end up. He also is giving up 20 pounds to him, and Brock is quick for his size. In a rematch with Carwin. I think Carwin could take it, if didn't put all his eggs in one basket like he did last time. Better conditioning and submission defense and Carwin could have Lesnar's number. JDS I see in the same vein as Cain Velasquez, except that JDS probably has a better ground game then him. Roy Nelson could be interesting because he has punching power and very good BJJ. Fedor could easily win a stand up match with Brock. He also has the skill to submit him. I think he would be Brock's biggest test out of all the potential contenders but I'm not sure if Fedor has interest in ever going to the UFC. Re Dos Santos: Just because he is Brazilian does not mean he is a top notch ground fighter. Dude is a boxer primarily and has one submission victory, over Eduardo Maiorino, who is a straight up kickboxer.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jul 4, 2010 17:13:46 GMT -5
Carwin, Fedor, Mir, Cro Cop, the list goes on. In fact the unpredictability is one thing I really like about MMA. It basically impossible for a fighter to go undefeated or even dominate their entire career. No matter how big dominating or technically sound a fighter is at some point they are going to get caught.
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Post by Big L on Jul 4, 2010 17:16:11 GMT -5
Jim Neidhart cannot beat Brock
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Post by Cela on Jul 4, 2010 17:35:20 GMT -5
Alistair Overeem. He will just knock Brock down over and over without even needing to go to the ground until Brock cant take it anymore. That fight showed large gaps in Brocks striking, and its a testament to both his offensive and defensive groundwork that he got through that fight. Overeem has yet to beat anyone noteworthy. He is a pure striker with a guillotine. Lesnar would destroy him. It would be like a messier version of GSP Hardy.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 4, 2010 17:39:08 GMT -5
I can.It involves time travel,a scary mask and his parents.
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Post by AriadosMan on Jul 4, 2010 17:42:16 GMT -5
The stock answer is Fedor, but Bruce Lee in his prime could have likely taken him as well.
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Post by Trip Fisk a.k.a. Foley is Good on Jul 4, 2010 17:58:12 GMT -5
I know I sound like I'm from the "If Wishes were Horses" brigade ![](http://casadowrestling.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/jim-ross.jpg) "If wishes were horses, the whole world would be an ocean. Wait, that's not right..."
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Post by Square on Jul 4, 2010 18:01:16 GMT -5
I can beat Brock, yeah I'm calling Lesnar out right now! You can't beat me you weird tattooed man!
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Post by Nacho STAYS Hyped on Jul 4, 2010 18:29:33 GMT -5
Cain Velasquez, without a doubt in my mind.
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Post by FrankGotch on Jul 4, 2010 18:56:17 GMT -5
The stock answer is Fedor, but Bruce Lee in his prime could have likely taken him as well. No way man. Bruce was listed as 5'7- 5'8 though many say he was more likely around 5'5 and he was about 146 lbs at his biggest. There is no way that Bruce Lee beats Brock Lesnar in an MMA fight. The size difference is just too much. Lee also never had a real competitive match that was heavily documented sanctioned, and presided over by a ref. Lee most likely would have been hell on wheels in the lightweight division, but I honestly don't see him being able to take on freaks of nature like the guys who populate todays heavyweight division. In a sanctioned fight with rules, and regulations A decent Big man will almost always beat a great small man.
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Post by smokey1980 on Jul 4, 2010 20:16:09 GMT -5
Chuck Norris....or the guy in the Dos Equis commercials.
But seriously, I am an enormous Brock fan, and totally impressed with all he has done. Even so, anybody can beat anybody in MMA, well I mean, within reason and within weight categories. I do hope Brock holds onto it for a few more fights because I think he's good for the sport as champion.
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