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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jun 20, 2010 22:08:19 GMT -5
Fatal 4 Way Thoughts:
Intercontinental Championship Match: Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Drew McIntyre
Good match, I think I liked there Over The Limit match more, but the hot crowd helped this match. Also the finish was good and the lived crowd loved it.
Divas Championship Match: Eve Torres (c) vs. Gail Kim vs. Maryse vs. Alicia Fox Sloppy, but at least we have a new heel Diva with Fox winning.
Chris Jericho vs. Evan Bourne: Jericho’s promo before the match was good as usual and the match was fantastic.
Bourne going over was great and even had lost the match alone put him over even more.
World Heavyweight Championship Match: Jack Swagger (c) vs. CM Punk vs. The Big Show vs. Rey Mysterio:
A good, but short match, infact to short, these guys should’ve got more then 10 minutes.
Also we knew a Kane run in was happening and it was kind of blah because now we’ll have to see more Kane/Punk matches.
I have no issue with Rey winning, as Show as champ would suck and Swagger well the booking was bad he didn’t do a good job with the character he was given and I’ve soured on him as a main eventer.
United States Championship Match: The Miz (c) vs. R-Truth:
Miz’s rap before the match was indeed awesome and the match was good, but the crowd couldn’t care less Truth and that hurt the match because they weren’t really into it.
The Hart Dynasty vs. The Usos & Tamina: Good match, but again the crowd couldn’t care less.
WWE Championship Match: John Cena (c) vs. Randy Orton vs. Edge vs. Sheamus
Slow, but good match. The crowd pretty much came back for it. The NXT ending was good and Sheamus winning wasn’t a shocker, but WWE cut off the PPV at least 10 minutes too early.
Overall: I went against my better judgment and order it, so I had low expectations and this PPV did go above those expectations as the opener was hot and Jericho/Bourne was as I said fantastic.
However my original thought was right, Fatal 4 Ways just don’t work for me, though tonight they weren’t bad.
So overall a good PPV.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 20, 2010 22:10:59 GMT -5
The anti half of the arena should chant Let's go Cena too, just to see if the pro half says Cena sucks I would so mark for that.
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Post by variable on Jun 20, 2010 22:11:01 GMT -5
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Post by steamboat1 on Jun 20, 2010 22:11:39 GMT -5
Bourne winning was great as it builds on his roll. Mcintyre should have won....now what is he gonna do, show up on smackdown and whine and have 0 credibility to his whining. Alicia Botch winning is a joke(actually F-that, Womens wrestling is a joke) Why job out a team like the Uso's you just brought in, when the titles arent even on the line? Already they are a samoan Dudebuster team. Actually I would have preferred Swagger to keep the title capitalizing on somebody elses big move. That way when he does drop it, it will mean more because of his defense record. At least if he is gonna lose the title, dont have him be the one to get pinned. Shameus winning makes sense, but since they are building him up as a dominant "take you out" type wrestler, he should have won after blindsiding somebody with a big kick, not because NXT ran in. I wouldn't have minded the NXT run in after the fall. And you missed the Miz winning clean, which was alright but even you didnt remember this match so it shows just how boring and forgetable it was. So yes, this show sucked from a logical standpoint in 5/7 matches. And the in-ring matches werent very good as i stated. Roll your eyes at that one How would you have made this show better? Instead of bitching about how bad this one was, I'd love to hear it. I thought it was a fun show to watch with great wrestling. We don't always get that with WWE or TNA nowadays. First match, I have a similar type finish, where Teddy counts the count for Drew but after the near fall, have him attack Teddy, then pin Kofi and count with Teddy's unconscious arm. That way, he wins the match in a screwy fashion and can come out on Friday and say that Teddy counted the fall. It keeps his heat and when Matt Hardy finally beats him, it is for the IC belt and gives Matt more than just a meaningless victory over a guy he has beaten already on Raw in 3 minutes. Diva's...could care less, get em off my tv Evan Bourne vs Jericho was done excellent, clean, and immediatly turns Bourne into a fresh borderline main eventer. The title match I said what I would do. I would have preferred Swagger to keep the title capitalizing on somebody elses big move. That way when he does drop it, it will mean more because of his defense record. At least if he is gonna lose the title, dont have him be the one to get pinned. I like the Miz winning, but the match seemed kinda off. Im not sure why but it just seemed like it dragged. The Uso's should have cleanly pinned the Hart Dynasty. That way when they finally have their match for the tag titles, they have a credibility that they have already beaten the champs. Now can they do it for the titles. The main event I also explained....I just don't like the way they gave the belt to Sheamus. If you are going to push him as a big thing, have him win as a big thing. Don't have him win because of NXT. That takes away from the victory. Instead of the story being "Sheamus beat 3 multiple time champions to win the title", It is now "Sheamus needed a run in from 7 guys to win a title, then ran for his life afterwards". I feel you could have given him a clean win, then did the NXT run-in and have him sneak off with the belt. Would have done way more for Sheamus' character.
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Post by Kris Kobain on Jun 20, 2010 22:11:55 GMT -5
Lawler, Striker, Cena, Sheamus, Edge....Orton if he had recovered from the spear...where was Jericho?Magicaly missing again.......Let's see that's 7 on 7? Yeah..... Cena was taken out almost immediately, Orton never recovered from the spear, Sheamus was still down, and Edge was still down. Edge was then destroyed when he tried to retailiate. Not quite 7 on 7. Even if STriker and Lawler jump in with Cena that's 3 on 7 which gives the guys on the outside time to recover. How was Sheamus still out when he was plenty healthy enough to get in the ring, pin Cena, RUN out of the ring and JUMP over the barricade. Hell Lawler and Striker saw the guys coming there's always chairs ringside. The whole point was Striker talking about the plan and then he and Lawler bail out. Plus where was the rest of the Raw locker room? Because they weren't on the ppv NXT isn't a threat to them? They can't be there to make sure they don't attack people? Not really banding together now is it?
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Jun 20, 2010 22:18:42 GMT -5
Cena was taken out almost immediately, Orton never recovered from the spear, Sheamus was still down, and Edge was still down. Edge was then destroyed when he tried to retailiate. Not quite 7 on 7. Even if STriker and Lawler jump in with Cena that's 3 on 7 which gives the guys on the outside time to recover. How was Sheamus still out when he was plenty healthy enough to get in the ring, pin Cena, RUN out of the ring and JUMP over the barricade. Hell Lawler and Striker saw the guys coming there's always chairs ringside. The whole point was Striker talking about the plan and then he and Lawler bail out. Plus where was the rest of the Raw locker room? Because they weren't on the ppv NXT isn't a threat to them? They can't be there to make sure they don't attack people? Not really banding together now is it? Sheamus was recouping outside the ring when he saw his chance. Got the title win, thought he could sneak away then ran for his life when the NXT guys caught him in the act. As for the rest of the RAW locker room, you can easily say they were also destroyed and we only caught the tail end on the PPV feed. As for Lawler and Cole, from the start Lawlewr was thinking of Cole's well being he was audbly heard trying to protect him. Lawler was too busy trying doing that to hear Stryker babbhling. WHen he saw Lawler and Cole bail, he followed. Not hard to loigically explain.
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Jun 20, 2010 22:19:23 GMT -5
It was a pretty good pay per view all around, besides Rey winning, the wresting was good, it pushed the storylines it needed to push, a solid show all around.
THAT SAID....I really felt for this show the same way I have for a long time now about the WWE, which I discussed at length in my column on wrestlecrapradio.com [/cheap plug] in that while the show was good and there was nothing really WRONG with it. It just seemed plain boring and I spent more time watching the clock than getting involved with the matches. I don't know if that's a sign the PG era is to blame or whether I'm just at a very low cynical point as a fan.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jun 20, 2010 22:23:04 GMT -5
It was a pretty good pay per view all around, besides Rey winning, the wresting was good, it pushed the storylines it needed to push, a solid show all around. THAT SAID....I really felt for this show the same way I have for a long time now about the WWE, which I discussed at length in my column on wrestlecrapradio.com [/cheap plug] in that while the show was good and there was nothing really WRONG with it. It just seemed plain boring and I spent more time watching the clock than getting involved with the matches. I don't know if that's a sign the PG era is to blame or whether I'm just at a very low cynical point as a fan. It's funny you write this because I really feel the same sometimes and didn't know how to put it into words. You didn't very good job for me.
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Post by Krimzon on Jun 20, 2010 22:37:20 GMT -5
Since I missed most due to sleep, I'm catching the replay now. Kofi/Drew was a damn good match. Drew is finally starting to not bore me to death.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Jun 20, 2010 22:39:00 GMT -5
I feel sorry for anyone who paid $45 for a show that ended 30 minutes early.
The ending was more of the same stuff that was on Raw... NXT angry, smash stuff. Not many of the other matches interested me, since there was little to no build-up for most of the matches.
I was surprised to see Jericho put Bourne over. I guess Jericho really is a man of principles, after complaining for so long about the main eventers in WCW never putting any of the young guys over.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Jun 20, 2010 22:42:30 GMT -5
I feel sorry for anyone who paid $45 for a show that ended 30 minutes early. The ending was more of the same stuff that was on Raw... NXT angry, smash stuff. Not many of the other matches interested me, since there was little to no build-up for most of the matches. I was surprised to see Jericho put Bourne over. I guess Jericho really is a man of principles, after complaining for so long about the main eventers in WCW never putting any of the young guys over. Please don't feel sorry for me because i paid for it. It was a good PPV with a lot of good wrestling on it.
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Post by waluigi on Jun 20, 2010 22:42:51 GMT -5
LMFAO @ the ending.
NXT guys help Sheamus win, then they all think "Kill him too, kill him too!"
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 20, 2010 22:42:55 GMT -5
YOUTH HAS BEEN SERVED!!!
Well, except for Rey...but he's a 40 year old in a 12 year old's face and an 60 year old's body, so...
I can't wait to see this PPV...
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Post by jabronidrive on Jun 20, 2010 22:46:04 GMT -5
LMFAO @ the ending. NXT guys help Sheamus win, then they all think "Kill him too, kill him too!" I don't think the goal was to help The Pale POS.
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Post by waluigi on Jun 20, 2010 22:47:57 GMT -5
LMFAO @ the ending. NXT guys help Sheamus win, then they all think "Kill him too, kill him too!" I don't think the goal was to help The Pale POS. POS better stand for Praiseworthy Omnipotent Sheamus
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 20, 2010 22:53:37 GMT -5
I feel sorry for anyone who paid $45 for a show that ended 30 minutes early. The ending was more of the same stuff that was on Raw... NXT angry, smash stuff. Not many of the other matches interested me, since there was little to no build-up for most of the matches. I was surprised to see Jericho put Bourne over. I guess Jericho really is a man of principles, after complaining for so long about the main eventers in WCW never putting any of the young guys over. Please don't feel sorry for me because i paid for it. It was a good PPV with a lot of good wrestling on it. Yeah, you don't need to feel sorry for me either, and I was there live so I paid more then $45, and I enjoyed myself immensly. Only real downer I can think of was the Truth Miz match... not sure what happened there exactly... as Truth and Miz got pretty big pops when they came out... but the match just seemed to drag. Well also my camera's battery died on me right as NXT showed up... rabble rabble... rabble...
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 20, 2010 22:54:31 GMT -5
The main event of this PPV might have been better had it turned out that Sheamus was semi involved with the NXT guys (he is basically a glorified rookie himself). I suppose he needed the win the most, but I think we all know he'll be eating a Pedigree in short order.
I'm actually for putting the belt on Rey. Swagger was bombing so hard as champ that this step needed to be taken. It was almost to the point where he was buried harder the longer he had the belt, which is the exact worst thing that can happen to someone with their first title reign. Swagger's booking as champ was some of the worst I've ever seen. It's appropriate that Rey would end his run, since Swagger was having a Rey-esque title reign. Now they can go back to Punk vs. Rey (once Swagger jobs in a formality rematch) and hopefully Punk can finally get some heat in the feud.
Some of these other results are just...ugh. Putting the woman's belt on Alicia Fox, who has shown zero talent or ability to get over? May I ask...why?
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Post by Krimzon on Jun 20, 2010 23:02:20 GMT -5
Man, Bourne vs. Jericho was AMAZING! Easily Match of the Night.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jun 20, 2010 23:35:20 GMT -5
Yay Alicia
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Post by H-Fist on Jun 21, 2010 0:15:10 GMT -5
The main event of this PPV might have been better had it turned out that Sheamus was semi involved with the NXT guys (he is basically a glorified rookie himself). I suppose he needed the win the most, but I think we all know he'll be eating a Pedigree in short order. I'm actually for putting the belt on Rey. Swagger was bombing so hard as champ that this step needed to be taken. It was almost to the point where he was buried harder the longer he had the belt, which is the exact worst thing that can happen to someone with their first title reign. Swagger's booking as champ was some of the worst I've ever seen. It's appropriate that Rey would end his run, since Swagger was having a Rey-esque title reign. Now they can go back to Punk vs. Rey (once Swagger jobs in a formality rematch) and hopefully Punk can finally get some heat in the feud. Some of these other results are just...ugh. Putting the woman's belt on Alicia Fox, who has shown zero talent or ability to get over? May I ask...why? I agree with Swagger bombing, but I'd actually be interested in seeing babyface Big Show with the belt for a little while. A Big Show/CM Punk feud would certainly keep both men hot (and fresh), as the SES and their Masked Maskedman would keep the odds evened out. At the same time, Swagger and Rey could put on high-quality upper card matches without the pressure of a belt. And Kane could continue his quest. It makes the most sense that way. The issue with Swagger is that he isn't good enough on the mic to carry the whole serious/Swagger Facts gimmick. This kind of gimmick is bland enough that any amateur athlete turned pro wrestler could use it, yet there's a reason they don't: Haas and Benjamin couldn't pull this off either. It might've worked better for a Mark Henry run, where he could finally flesh out his character without sexual freakiness after 15 years. These results...cool, but I do like the idea the one poster had about Drew knocking out Teddy and counting three with his unconscious hand. It'll be interesting to see if Hunter is healthy enough to return for Summerslam this year, or maybe Night of Champions in September.
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