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Post by corndog on Aug 17, 2010 22:53:16 GMT -5
I personally believe that season 2 has alot better alot around talent and more interesting characters. Percy Watson, love him or hate him is unique. Alex Riley isn't great in the ring, but talks very well and plays his cocky preppy heel perfectly. Kaval is another talented "internet darling" but is much more over than Daniel Bryan was. I really like Husky Harris's old school scumbag badass heel character. McGillicutty is a very good all around wrestling, but needs more direction. All in all there are more distinct characters that are interesting and it seems like the fans react to them more. But how does everyone else compare the two groups.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 17, 2010 22:56:03 GMT -5
It seems like they've paced both the development and eliminations rather well. The first season was the initial experimental one and in hindsight it shows. The awkward rookie/pro relationships, absurd challenges (which were a bit less silly this time), and so on.
To quote TV Tropes, its definitely grown the beard.
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Post by MGH on Aug 17, 2010 22:56:40 GMT -5
Definitely Season 2. Daniel and Wade were both great from Season 1, and Gabriel was good, but after that when you get to the middle, Slater (I know, unpopular but my opinion), Young, Otunga, Tarver, and Sheffield (though he's getting much better as a bad ass monster) were either OK, mediocre, or just flat suck.
Meanwhile, I think the middle of and top of Season 2 are far superior. Kaval, Hennig, Harris, and Riley are all well above just good IMO. I'd take Cannon over Slater or Young or Otunga etc.
If they could take the best from Season 1 and splice them with a handful of Season 2, the Nexus could be an amazing stable.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 17, 2010 23:20:41 GMT -5
Season 2 is a significant improvement, both in terms of pacing and as far as the roster of guys they've brought up goes.
Season 1 gave us all the guys WWE wanted to push and see succeed, which meant we got a bunch of tiresome buff guys in trunks straight from the FCW Cloning Vats (plus Bryan), and only a few of them managed to display anything unique or worthwhile. Season 2 has a bunch of quirky, weird castoffs who WWE isn't sure how they want to use, and they're vastly more entertaining to watch, even the guys that fell on their faces (like the Mustachioed One).
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Aug 17, 2010 23:27:13 GMT -5
Season 2 is far superior.
The problem with Season 1 is that each guy seemed to fall into a gray area where you're not sure if they're face or heel and all of them came off looking like douchebags. In fact, that's the only reason I buy them as a heel stable.
Season 2 has less of that, clear faces with Kaval and Percy then clear heels with Husky and Riley. You still got gray area guys like McGillicutty and Cottonwood, but that's why they're here, to develop personalities. Also everyone from Season 1 had the same moveset, the Season 2 guys all have different movesets.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Aug 18, 2010 0:00:46 GMT -5
^ I STILL have no idea if Skip was a heel or face in season 1!
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 18, 2010 7:00:47 GMT -5
Imagine if NXT Season 1 was Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater, Kaval, Percy Watson, Joe Hennig, and Alex Riley. That would have been great.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 18, 2010 7:08:31 GMT -5
I'm voting Season 1, not on what it HAD, but on what it didn't have.
Alex Riley. FUTURE ENDAVOUR THIS MAN IMMEDIATELY. He's so freaking generic and plain that he makes DH Smith look interesting. It's like they took every crappy generic heel to come through OVW, DSW, and FCW in the last 10 years, squeezed them into a juicer, distilled it, and used it to make the crappiest, most generic, boring heel to ever exist.
Alex "You can hear the ratings going down the toilet when I'm on TV" Riley.
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Post by Starshine on Aug 18, 2010 7:10:30 GMT -5
Imagine if NXT Season 1 was Daniel Bryan, Wade Barrett, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater, Kaval, Percy Watson, Joe Hennig, and Alex Riley. That would have been great. Replace Riley and Slater with Husky Harris and Eli Cottonwood (solely for the unintentional hilarity) and that would be my prime lineup. |
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Post by Thank You Shawn on Aug 18, 2010 7:29:49 GMT -5
Let's see...
Season 1's talent..Barrett, Sheffield, Danielson, Gabriel and Tarver.
Season 2's talent..Riley, Kaval, Harris, Hennig, Watson
Seems about even to me...and if you add the progression Slater and Young both have shown maybe the edge is on Season 1 just a smidge.
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Post by Thank You Shawn on Aug 18, 2010 7:34:13 GMT -5
I'm voting Season 1, not on what it HAD, but on what it didn't have. Alex Riley. FUTURE ENDAVOUR THIS MAN IMMEDIATELY. He's so freaking generic and plain that he makes DH Smith look interesting. It's like they took every crappy generic heel to come through OVW, DSW, and FCW in the last 10 years, squeezed them into a juicer, distilled it, and used it to make the crappiest, most generic, boring heel to ever exist. Alex "You can hear the ratings going down the toilet when I'm on TV" Riley. Sweet, A-Ry is getting all sort of Miz type hate on here now, good times. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 18, 2010 7:40:05 GMT -5
I'm voting Season 1, not on what it HAD, but on what it didn't have. Alex Riley. FUTURE ENDAVOUR THIS MAN IMMEDIATELY. He's so freaking generic and plain that he makes DH Smith look interesting. It's like they took every crappy generic heel to come through OVW, DSW, and FCW in the last 10 years, squeezed them into a juicer, distilled it, and used it to make the crappiest, most generic, boring heel to ever exist. Alex "You can hear the ratings going down the toilet when I'm on TV" Riley. Sweet, A-Ry is getting all sort of Miz type hate on here now, good times. Except that Riley's been enough to get me to STOP WATCHING NXT 2 (having started with last night's episode). |
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Post by Thank You Shawn on Aug 18, 2010 7:46:54 GMT -5
Sweet, A-Ry is getting all sort of Miz type hate on here now, good times. Except that Riley's been enough to get me to STOP WATCHING NXT 2 (having started with last night's episode). I think they'll do alright losing 1 viewer. |
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Post by Dub H on Aug 18, 2010 11:19:53 GMT -5
As Cody quoted "Miz is Awesome,Riley,you are awful!"
+Eli cottonwood,and i liked everybody at season 1(except otunga)
And geez,cant someone say anything bad about anything Miz-Related that you need to appear and complain that they dont like about something related about Miz?
We found who is spying on Wrestlecrap,its Cole.
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Post by flatsdomino on Aug 18, 2010 12:20:35 GMT -5
Season 2 is a significant improvement, both in terms of pacing and as far as the roster of guys they've brought up goes. Season 1 gave us all the guys WWE wanted to push and see succeed, which meant we got a bunch of tiresome buff guys in trunks straight from the FCW Cloning Vats (plus Bryan), and only a few of them managed to display anything unique or worthwhile. Season 2 has a bunch of quirky, weird castoffs who WWE isn't sure how they want to use, and they're vastly more entertaining to watch, even the guys that fell on their faces (like the Mustachioed One). Sums up my feelings EXACTLY. How in the HELL you were supposed to root for Skip Sheffield over Michael Tarver, or tell the difference between Darren Young and Heath Slater's character's or styles, was beyond me. ALL of those guys were generic as hell, which why they work as a unit of "rabid dogs", because they're, for the most part, very uniform. Same moveset, basically, cookie-cutter buff guys in trunks with little to no personality to start with. Everyone, everyone from Season 2 has some sort of interesting character or defining trait that sets them apart, a distinctive personality, and some of them have...wait for it...GIMMICKS. They're the kind of loud, colorful characters wrestling is all about. And it's a competition between a gallery of potential superstars, all who bring something different to the table. |
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Post by Bake Or Die on Aug 18, 2010 16:03:09 GMT -5
I prefer Season 2 but I would actually mismash the line up to create my perfect NXT season.
Husky Harris
Kaval
Michael McGillicutty
Percy Watson
Heath Slater
Daniel Bryan
Darren Young
Wade Barrett
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Post by Thank You Shawn on Aug 18, 2010 18:06:37 GMT -5
As Cody quoted "Miz is Awesome,Riley,you are awful!" +Eli cottonwood,and i liked everybody at season 1(except otunga) And geez,cant someone say anything bad about anything Miz-Related that you need to appear and complain that they dont like about something related about Miz? We found who is spying on Wrestlecrap,its Cole.  |
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Post by Tyfo on Aug 18, 2010 19:28:18 GMT -5
Season 1 had the better overall talent IMO.
Everyone in Season 1, save for David Otunga, had quite a bit of experience and I felt deserved to be there. Wade Barrett and Heath Slater had both been in developmental for several years and had been ready for a good while. Justin Gabriel was ready the moment he signed and he tore through FCW. Skip Sheffield spent lots of time in developmental in his two WWE stints and became quite a convincing monster who could hold up his end very well. Darren Young and Michael Tarver both had pretty extensive indy resumes (especially Young) and are solid in the ring. And of course, I don't think I need to explain Daniel Bryan's background.
In Season 2, you had Titus O'Neil who has been in PRO WRESTLING period not even a year. Eli Cottonwood who is just terrible and inexperienced. Lucky Cannon, who even in FCW isn't much more then a low midcard guy. Percy Watson, also just around a year in the business now. Husky Harris and Alex Riley both have no wrestling experience outside of WWE/FCW and are relativley new still but are indeed developing. Michael McGillicutty is ready to go but he still needs some polishing as he also is still rather new to the game still. Kaval of course is more then ready.
The only guys from season 2 that I can see being ready for TV right now are Kaval, McGillicutty, and maybe Alex Riley or Husky Harris. Where as in Season 1, I felt that 7 of the 8 guys could have already been called up to the main roster before NXT even started.
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Aug 18, 2010 19:39:40 GMT -5
NXT 1:
Barrett - Good
Gabriel - Good
Bryan - Zzzzzzz
Slater - Decent
Tarver - Okay
Otunga - The shit icing on a garbage sundae
Skip - Meh.
Young - Bleh.
NXT 1:
Kaval: Good
Percy: Good...OH YEAH!
McGuillicutty: Good
Husky: Good
A-Ri: Craptastic
Lucky: Lucky he's not the worst of the bunch.
Eli: MUSTACHE...awful.
Titus: Make it a...FAIL.
My score
NXT 1: 3
NXT 2: 4
NXT 2 wins.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 18, 2010 19:47:26 GMT -5
I watched all of season 1, I completely lost interest after about episode three of season 2 and haven't watched since until last night. I think as a whole due to the lesser calibur of pros and lack of a compelling story like wtf is going on with Daniel Bryan NXT season 1 was a much more compelling program, even if it didn't make sense a lot of the time.
But I guess this thread is about talent, not the actual show... although I guess I would say that whatever talents the rookies in Season 2 had it wasn't enough to get me to watch the show, whereas I probably would've stuck through show with Jericho, Punk, Christian, Barrett and Bryan no matter what.
So while the talent of the rookies might not have been lesser, the collection of pros was definitely inferior, no matter how much I like Zach Ryder. Woo woo woo you know it.
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