Ali Du Jour
Trap-Jaw
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Remixing is OK
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Post by Ali Du Jour on Aug 10, 2010 15:24:19 GMT -5
I liked the idea of turning a submission into Last Call, because the other ways Melina's got into position to start it have always seemed weird or just awkward. But Alicia's not the right person to do that power submission move.
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Post by thesunbeast on Aug 10, 2010 16:38:48 GMT -5
I have no idea what match everyone was watching. From what I can tell Melina was at fault for all of the botches that took place and I thought that Alicia did a great job. I think this is just an example of how people can misinterpret what they see based off of their own presuppositional biases.
Based off of everything I know from watching wrestling, reading books, watching shoot interviews, and talking with pro wrestlers and with people who know pro wrestlers, 99% of the time the person getting beat up is doing all of the work, is responsible for their own momentum into a move, and the person giving the move is just responsible for guiding it. I am not a trained pro wrestler, but if that is true, then I fail to see how Alicia Fox did anything bad in her match with Melina.
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PKO
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Post by PKO on Aug 10, 2010 16:45:37 GMT -5
I think Melina's strengths are in her brawling. I much preferred her in-ring work as a heel because she took things slower and didn't try such quick moves all the time. The first half of their match last night focused more on brawling which I thought was good. Apart from screwing up the tilt-a-whirl backbreaker she didn't look too rusty. I'd like to see her bring back her submission move as her finisher (California Dreams). I think the split-leg DDT is awful, and her sunset flip bomb often goes wrong. Plus, no diva uses a Submission as her finisher anymore. I think it helped a lot to actually have some time in the match, not to mention the fact that the crowd was hot all night, and really cheering for her. I doubt it did Alicia much good when the crowd starded chanting that she couldn't wrestle, though. I can't believe of all the women they've had to choose from, Alicia got that chant directed at her.
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Post by Nuke The Whales on Aug 10, 2010 16:47:12 GMT -5
That finish was horrific. It looked like both broads could've gotten seriously effed up from it.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Aug 10, 2010 17:21:52 GMT -5
Being in the ring with someone competent just made it all the more clear that Alicia Fox is quite possibly the worst wrestler the women's division has ever had. Melina was pretty good last night. Didn't seem to have much ring rust at all. bull, Alicia looked great last night, too.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Aug 10, 2010 17:24:19 GMT -5
I'm surprised people liked that match. I thought it was terrible. Melina really wasn't working well with Alicia and seemed to be sandbagging her at certain points. I don't know if it was a communication issue or something. but you could tell Alicia was having issues with wrestling her. She took a few nasty bumps as well. I think she just wasn't sure how much strength Alicia had. Overall I felt things like having to fight to lift Melina into the gutwrench backbreaker, which landed fine, made the match look more realistic and is part of what I loved about it.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 10, 2010 17:26:16 GMT -5
I don't know, but her ass looked amazing.
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Post by JACK on Aug 10, 2010 18:19:05 GMT -5
Yeah shes a beast alright an over rated one at that ...I'm not the biggiest Alicia fan but the "fox can't wrestle" chant was stupid. I blame Melina for that sloppy ass match cuz Fox has had decent looking match with Eve and Gail up until now.
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leilaorton
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Post by leilaorton on Aug 10, 2010 18:39:47 GMT -5
I'm so glad she's back.. she's amazing!
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 10, 2010 18:51:59 GMT -5
It was a sloppy match, and I wouldn't place all of the blame on Alicia because Melina has a history of bothing moves (although she never gets called on it like Mickie James used to).
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Aug 10, 2010 18:53:29 GMT -5
It was a sloppy match, and I wouldn't place all of the blame on Alicia because Melina has a history of bothing moves (although she never gets called on it like Mickie James used to). she uses moves that everyone botches at some point or another I think.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Aug 10, 2010 22:27:05 GMT -5
I agree.
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greeby
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Post by greeby on Aug 10, 2010 22:35:41 GMT -5
If you want to blame anything, blame the braintrust who decided putting two women on TV. One of whom hasn't worked in eight months and who haven't had any house shows against each other, was going to be a good match.
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luiscurse
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Post by luiscurse on Aug 11, 2010 3:34:39 GMT -5
(insert comment about Melina's ass here)
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Bub (BLM)
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Fed. Up.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 11, 2010 3:55:51 GMT -5
i was sad that her lower tummy wasn't being shown, but that ass is magnificent. Props to Big Dave for hitting it. and apparently a host of other wrestlers thank you Paul London. Batista had sex with Paul London? LOL. Paul London exposed Melina as a ring rat.
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Reg the Veg
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Post by Reg the Veg on Aug 11, 2010 4:00:58 GMT -5
melina's a breath of fresh air amongst the current crop of divas. she isn't just "good for a woman", she's flat out GOOD. on monday she looked like a legit threat to the title, rather than someone like kelly, who just tries to do pretty moves. and as has been mentioned, she made alicia look strong as well.
psychology, moveset, acting, selling, plus she can pull off the "eye candy" role if that's the direction they wanna go; melina is a clear example of why a well done women's division could work in WWE. now all we need is beth to come back and serena to start wrestling and we're set.
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Post by Junkenstein on Aug 11, 2010 7:10:36 GMT -5
That finish was dumb, not a good idea for either of them to attempt something as dangerous as that. Could have been potentially pretty messy.
Also I was struck by how Melina has a similar face to Paul Stanley from Kiss.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Aug 12, 2010 6:10:36 GMT -5
Batista had sex with Paul London? LOL. Paul London exposed Melina as a ring rat. Takes a ring rat to know a ring rat though. Paul London is a diva and a slut apparently.
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azz0r
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Post by azz0r on Aug 12, 2010 6:24:37 GMT -5
That match gave me hope in the Raw Diva Division.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Aug 12, 2010 6:31:48 GMT -5
That match gave me hope in the Raw Diva Division. Too bad nobody else outside of Nattie can actually wrestle and not just flop around and throw horrible forarms while screeching.
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