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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 27, 2011 21:35:56 GMT -5
In addition to the strikes it would be good if people added a few more basic or transitional moves into their lists. It's difficult to write a realistic match without it becoming a spotfest with no flow when everybody has 10 potential finishing moves as their moveset. I second the motion. I personally try to fit in transitional moves, as well as some description of how they transfer from certain moves to others. I intend for it to be more technical and thus easier to picture. Like, instead of one guy using a clothesline while his opponent counters with a german suplex, I say (for example) that guy A rushes forward with a clothesline, but guy B ducks under the arm, waistlocks guy A, and lifts him up and overhead for a german suplex. I also second this. Mick Foley made the same point in Foley is Good IIRC. It really does make all the difference in an angle if both/all sides sell eachother as a worthy opponent. As to their actual credentials, that's another matter of course.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 27, 2011 21:36:27 GMT -5
i'll hopefully have my match done by lunch tomorrow at the very latest. earlier, of course, is better.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Mar 27, 2011 21:43:25 GMT -5
I included a "Revised" profile for after the PPV in my voting, If you want to use it as a "New" template for profiles feel free to. I'll post it after the PPV for reasons which will become apparent.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 27, 2011 21:45:28 GMT -5
It would just be easier, and would allow people to have a bit more influence in the writing of their matches if they just expanded the moveset a bit. It's no good having someone work an arm for an entire match if that's not something they want their character to be doing and it's totally out of keeping with every other match they've had. But can't you get a general gist from the finishers. If someone wrote a Square match they would know that targeting the arm would be stupid if they were going to finish with a running strike in the Squareplosion. That's what I figure too. Granted, it is best if the player has a movelist that complements their finishers. Speaking of finishers, I, for the record, prefer saving finishers for PPV matches. To me, it gives stories more meaning if a finisher must be used at all.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 27, 2011 21:50:19 GMT -5
But can't you get a general gist from the finishers. If someone wrote a Square match they would know that targeting the arm would be stupid if they were going to finish with a running strike in the Squareplosion. If somebody has a moveset with 5 different power based suplexes and 5 slams and drops, where do you start? Part of it comes into just giving an idea of strikes that person would use, but then do you have the guy take their opponent to ground? Do they work a headlock? Do they grab a bearhug? Do they go for a collar and elbow tie-up? Do they try a test of strength? You can't go from zero to ninety every time otherwise it gets tedious, and if a person writing a match isn't totally familiar with a character, it can be awkward writing a match that is suitably realistic to a character that flows correctly. There also is the issue of if a guy is a much smaller character and they have a series of power moves, it just doesn't make sense to have them throwing a much bigger opponent around and so having a few lighter moves to use in building up and working someone over so the eventual power move fits would seem sensible to help those writing matches and the person behind the character be happy with the results. 1. I think that Style descriptions help a bit for improvising moves that are not listed. A "Power" wrestler gives a pretty good idea for what kinds of moves to use, whereas "High Flyer" evokes others. 2. I agree that some thought should go into wrestler size versus style and moveset. It's probably also a good idea to see what the general weight ranges of the current roster is in the first place. That said, let's all remember that Earthquake could to standing dropkicks and Bam Bam Bigelow and Paul Wight used to do moonsaults once in a while.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 27, 2011 23:13:29 GMT -5
Interforums Championship sent in plus a little skit.
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Post by Square on Mar 28, 2011 7:57:20 GMT -5
Hi I'm Micheal Gettenpill for WWCF.com and This is History 101.
When you think of Hardcore, you think of The General of the Monkey Army, the two time WWCF Hardcore champion has for 3 years put his body on the line to perform in incredible matches for you fans, so tonight we are going to highlight two of his matches and prove that The General is king of hardcore.
First we are going way back to December 29th 2008 where at Serious Business for the Hardcore title The General took on “Evil La Parka”, aka D-Day Dave, in a Chairs, Chairs and Chairs match
Michael Muffer- And the next match has a 45 minute time limit, and is scheduled for one fall! He weighs in at 225lbs, stands 6 feet flat. Hailing from Lansing Michigan, he is The General of the Monkey Army!
*An animistic roar blares over the House Mic as a signal of the arrival of The General of the Monkey Army. he has a Riding crop in his hand, and his assistant, Bingo, has a pouch of powder ready for usage.
Michael Muffer- And his opponent: He also weighs 225lbs, also stands 6 feet flat, but hails from Mexico City, Mexico. He is Evil La Parka!
*Micheal Jackson' "thriller" starts up, as La Parka emerges from the entrance, Chair in hand, and does his entrance dance. As he starts to head to the Ring, The General does a uncharacteristic Plan ch onto him, as the Bell rings.
The General successfully hits La Parka with the Plancha, and proceeds with Steve Austin-like Punches, then Stomps onto him. He then stands up, and appeals to the crowd, who return in kind. This showboating costs him, as Parka fouls him, and hits him in the groin with the side of the Chair. He then proceeds to whip The General into the Railing multiple times, and kicks him out into the crowd. Parka then appeals, but gets boos instead. Angry, Parka then drags the General hair-first into the ring.
But La Parka is caught unaware by Bingo's throwing of Powder, blinding him, leaving him easy prey to the enraged General, who takes the Crop, and literally bends it over Parka's head, after repeated strikes to it. An Eye Poke from Parka slows down the pace of the match. Both men then struggle to their feet, and The General then proceeds to clotheline Parka out.
Once outside, The General grabs Parka by the mask, and drags him out into the crowds, brawling all the way. Parka bites his ear to make him let go, and both men grab Chairs and proceed to have a Chair Duel. Parka is beaten, and thrown all the way down the aisle into the Concession Stand. Popcorn, Soda, Hot Dogs are both used and destroyed by the two, before both leave, and enter the top of the Ramp.
Once up on the entrance ramp the General proceeds to beat La Parka all the way to the Ring. General then proceeds to run up to the top of the ramp, and brings out a bicycle, which he then rides down the Ramp, and Clotheslines la Parka on the way down. The general then tosses Parka, and Parka proceeds to beg for mercy, but the General ignores Parka’s pleas and back hands him right in the face knocking Parka down to the ground. The General sets La Parka up against the ropes and puts a chair in front of La Parka’s face. The General reaches back and hits a massive Monkey Paw denting the chair right into La Parka’s face. He goes for the cover and gets the pin. Michael Muffer- Here is your winner and still WWCF Hardcore Champion…………….THE GENERAL OF THE MONKEY ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great match. Next we're going February 22 2010, Earnest Goes to Wargames, where in a Monkey Boot Camp match The General took on a young star who sadly left before getting his chance Inspector Shetty The camera pans the rings, surrounded by the cage. Inside are various training tools, such as a tire course, some traffic cones(wrapped in barbed wire), and some pull-up rings hanging from the roof of the cages. Chained to the side are various weapons.
Michael Muffer - The following is the Monkey Boot Camp Match!
*Wannabe in LA*
Michael Muffer - Introducing first, from Bombay, England, weighing in at 265 pounds, Inspector Shetty!
Shetty walks down the ramp, soaking in the “adulation” of the piped in “SHETTY!!!” chants.
*King Kong 2004*
Michael Muffer - And his opponent, from Lansing, Michigan, weighing in at 225 pounds, and being accompanied by Bongo the Gorilla, The General of the Monkey Army!
The General and Bongo march down to the cage.
Tim Hoss - Here we go, Jess! It’s boot camp time!
Referee Floyd McLloyd calls for the bell.
Jesse King - This match ain’t gonna be for the faint of heart!
Shetty charges the General, who backdrops him into the second ring! Shetty get’s to his feet , just as the General dives onto him, both men falling into the tires! The General pulls Shetty out and suplex’s him to the mat, then steps in between the rings.
Tim Hoss - What’s the General got in mind here?
The General springboards off the top rope of the other ring and moonsault’s onto Shetty! Cover!
1!
Kickout!
The General rolls to the outside and yanks a Kendo stick off the side of the cage!
Jesse King - Gorilla, this is the largest Hell in a Cell structure ever used, as it surrounds both rings, and still leaves space for them to fight on the outside!
Tim Hoss - How far back did they have to moves the fans for this one?
The General rolls back in and measures Shetty, but the Inspector kicks the General low, then smashes him the head with one of the tires! DDT on the tires! Cover!
1!
Kickout!
Bongo starts pounding on the cage, trying to rally the General to his feet. Shetty grabs a traffic cone from the first ring and puts it over the General’s head, then punt’s him! He picks up the Kendo stick and fires off a series of quick Blackman-esque shots!
Jesse King - Inspector Shetty with lightning-quick shots with that cane!
Shetty runs the ropes and delivers a rising knee to the head! Cover!
1!
Kickout!
Bongo tries to pry the door off the cage, but to no avail. Shetty taunts the gorilla, then picks the General up. Powerslam! Cover!
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2!
Kickout!
Shetty rolls to the outside and grabs a trashcan.
Tim Hoss - Inspector Shetty getting ready to take out the trash!
Shetty lifts the trashcan up and brings it down on the General’s head! Cover!
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2!
Kickout!
Shetty grabs some barbed wire off one of the cones and begins choking the General with it! He gasps for air as Bongo tries in vain to break in! Shetty, still holding the barbed wire around the General’s neck, pulls him up and snap mare’s him! He then comes off the ropes with a Shining Wizard! Cover!
1!
2!
The General get’s his shoulder up at the last second!
Jesse King – Shetty is livid! He thought he had it!
Shetty rolls out of the ring and pulls a table out from under the apron! He slides it in the ring and balances it between the two rings! He set’s the General up for a powerbomb, but he hooks the rings hanging from the ceiling and FrankenSteiner’s Shetty over into the first ring! Both men down now, but Shetty rolls under the bottom rope.
Tim Hoss - The General may have saved himself there, but how much can he have left in the tank?!
Shetty begins rummaging under the ring, but suddenly pulls his hand back in pain! He reaches under again, but pulls back quickly!
Jesse King - What’s going on?!
Shetty reaches under once more, but when he pulls his hand back, he has a pair of bolt cutters attached to his finger, and the cutters are being held by…
Tim Hoss - TINKERS?!!!
Jesse King - It’s the General’s wife, Gorilla! It’s the General’s wife, Tinkers!
Shetty drops Tinkers, who scurries over to the door with the bolt cutters! Shetty grabs her by the scruff of the neck, but the General comes to the rescue! He ram’s Shetty’s head into the side of the cage, then monkey flip’s him! Tinkers begins working on the lock with the bolt cutters, as Bongo continues to hammer away at the door from the outside. The General rolls Shetty back in the ring and delivers a big brainbuster! Cover!
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2!
Shetty barely kick’s out!
Tinkers continues to work diligently and finally breaks the lock! Bongo slams into the door and breaks it down!
Tim Hoss - Uhoh, Jess! Bongo is loose in the cage!
The General goes for a suplex, but Shetty reverses it! Bongo enters the ring and clothesline’s Shetty to the mat!
Jesse King - Normally a caged gorilla is a good thing, but not in this case Hoss!
Tim Hoss - Whataya mean by that?!
Bongo picks up the table and sets it up in the middle of ring one! He lifts Shetty up for a gorilla press, but Shetty rakes Bongo’s eyes, then suplex’s the gorilla through the table!
Jesse King - WHAT THE HELL?!!!
Tim Hoss - Well, I guess that means Shetty won’t be donating to the Humane society anytime soon.
Shetty stands over Bongo, but the General grabs him and slams him to the mat! Shetty back up, but the General fells him with a big Monkey Paw! Cover!
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2!
SHETTY ROLLS HIS SHOULDER UP!!!!
Jesse King - Oh come on! He had it!
Tinkers throws a chair into the ring, but it goes sailing over the General’s head and into ring two. The General tosses Shetty into the second ring and follows, but Shetty gets a hold of the chair! He rams it into the General’s ribs, then cracks him across the skull!
Tim Hoss - Well, that’s it. No way The General is getting up after that!
Shetty pulls the General up and both men are covered in blood. He goes for the Calcutter, but the General shoves him off! Shetty charges, but The General takes him down at the legs and locks in the Monkey Wrench! Shetty struggles, but reaches the ropes! He rolls to the floor, but is intercepted by a recovered and very pissed off Bongo!
Jesse King - Shetty’s gonna get it bow, Gorilla!
Bongo grabs Shetty by the throat and chokeslam’s him on the floor! He then tosses him back over the top rope. The General pulls Shetty to the middle of the ring and once again locks on the Monkey Wrench! McLloyd checks and sees that Shetty is unconscious! The bell rings!
Michael Muffer - Ladies and gentlemen, here is your winner, as the result of a knockout, The General of the Monkey Army!
The General collapses in a heap as Bongo and Tinkers run over to celebrate!
Jesse King - He did it! After everything Shetty put The General through these last several weeks, he finally get’s his comeuppance at the hands of the General and his entourage!
Tim Hoss - Well of course Shetty lost. It was three on one!
Jesse King - But it was anything goes, Gorilla! The General is the decisive winner here tonight at Ernest Goes to War Games!
Two great matches from the General and that's all for tonight folks, I'm Micheal Gettinpill and this is History 101
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Post by Square on Mar 28, 2011 10:41:45 GMT -5
Just finished the Hardcore title match, and lets just say the ending won't be suitble for the younger Muppets
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 28, 2011 13:18:24 GMT -5
still working on the tag title match, but the ending is going to be downright jaw-dropping when it's finished.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Mar 28, 2011 18:40:34 GMT -5
Nice touch with the showcase of past matches, Square.
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Post by Square on Mar 28, 2011 18:52:59 GMT -5
Nice touch with the showcase of past matches, Square. I thank you
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Post by General Adam on Mar 28, 2011 21:17:05 GMT -5
Just finished the Hardcore title match, and lets just say the ending won't be suitble for the younger Muppets Oooooooooooooooooo! ;D
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Post by Square on Mar 28, 2011 21:27:27 GMT -5
Just finished the Hardcore title match, and lets just say the ending won't be suitble for the younger Muppets Oooooooooooooooooo! ;D Decaptiate has 2 Ts right?
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 28, 2011 21:34:35 GMT -5
Decaptiate has 2 Ts right? nope, just one.
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Post by Square on Mar 28, 2011 21:35:56 GMT -5
Decaptiate has 2 Ts right? nope, just one. Right Also no member of WWCF is associated with Greenpeace/WWF right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 21:38:11 GMT -5
Right Also no member of WWCF is associated with Greenpeace/WWF right? If they were, we would've been screwed when TTS was sacrificing chickens every week.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 28, 2011 21:39:25 GMT -5
Right Also no member of WWCF is associated with Greenpeace/WWF right? nope. i'm a farmboy from birth, and Shaelin doesn't like birds.
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Post by Square on Mar 28, 2011 21:44:06 GMT -5
Right Also no member of WWCF is associated with Greenpeace/WWF right? nope. i'm a farmboy from birth, and Shaelin doesn't like birds. ...It's a little bigger than a bird
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 28, 2011 21:46:11 GMT -5
nope. i'm a farmboy from birth, and Shaelin doesn't like birds. ...It's a little bigger than a bird still not a problem.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 29, 2011 0:06:50 GMT -5
almost done with the tag match, but i'm starting to get sleepy, so i won't get it done until morning.
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